Gonzaga

I attended the game with my son. Just a few thoughts.

1- I will not tell others how to spend their money. However, we saw two decent games for a reasonable price. Too bad we don't get more fan support.
2- I am not in "the we played hard tonight" crowd. After watching Gonzaga this was a very winnable game. I thought the main problem was we didn't have enough big bodies. Period end of story. I didn't see anything special about Zags front line of Karnowski and Sabonis. However, Zags had more of them. More fouls to give. The size and length killed us when Obekpa got in foul trouble. This will be fatal flaw for this team all season.
3- Our players clearly give effort. Unfortunately, this leads to many "forced" plays and poor decisions.
4- This was a horribly officiated game for this level. I will not blame the calls for the loss. I think they were equally poor for both sides. I think it hurts us more since we tend to "force" the action and had less fouls to give.
5- Just an observation on the Zags and Kevin Pangos. I must admit I thought we had no chance going in. After watching the game I think we could have won. Pangos disappeared for most of the night and he did not kill us from 3 as expected. I think the Zags are good but deeper teams will give them trouble.

Overall, just another disappointing missed opportunity for us.
Great post and agree with everything except Sabonis is an excellent player. If he switches teams with Christian Jones, we win this one.
 
How as the crowd? On TV, the noise made it seemed like there was a decent crowd there. ESPN didn't show many fan shots so I thought it might have been another 'parents' crowd. MSG will always be tough to pack for St. Johns.
 
We got killed inside again and again between their big guy and Sabonis
Jones simply can't play the middle when Obekpa is out, so Dom at 6'6" plays center
Not a good formula going against a team with 2 guys nearly 7 foot tall
Jordan has so much talent but doesn't play under control
We are "the gang that can't shoot straight"
No consistency shooting from the outside and horrific from the foul line
If these guys were young, I'd say great effort and a "moral victory" against #10
However, at this point, it's time to put the "big boy pants" on and win these games!!
 
How as the crowd? On TV, the noise made it seemed like there was a decent crowd there. ESPN didn't show many fan shots so I thought it might have been another 'parents' crowd. MSG will always be tough to pack for St. Johns.

Crowd was sparse. 5,500 I think it was.
 
Losses do not bother me much any more. Sure I want them to do well, but I am just looking at the program matter of factly. This is part of the reason I didn't renew my season tickets, and have become part of a larger group of the "disgraceful fan base."

With a group that has been together a while, like this one has, I am not giving accolades for trying. That is to be expected. A loss, is a loss. Gonzaga is not Kentucky. And these are not freshmen. If the team made less of the same bonehead plays, they would have won.

Watching this team is like watching the Honeymooners. I know what is going to happen even before it does. Except nothing here is funny. Even during the frantic comeback I expected something bad to happen.

Good luck to the team. Always root for them. But it just gets tougher and tougher to get geared up.

Sorry for being the rain cloud over the picnic.
 
This is disappointing because our defense played well enough for us to win. Wiltjer and Pangos only combined for 19 pts. Have got to take advantage of that.

Man its easy to say now but those two points that Jordan gave back to them on an idiotic goal tend as well as the two missed put-backs that dom had in first 10 minutes could have been the difference. I saw obekpa foul on three plays where he barely made contact while Dlo got hit in a harder and more obvious fashion on several occasions with no foul resulting.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen
 
You are absolutely right. I have just become so accustomed to not having any consistent shooters that it slipped my mind.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen

Your beer stand was closed last night
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen

Your beer stand was closed last night
they probably got word from Weatherman about my PC Richards delivery screwup and figured it would be unprofitable to open without me being there
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen

Your beer stand was closed last night
they probably got word from Weatherman about my PC Richards delivery screwup and figured it would be unprofitable to open without me being there

I would say Wed and Friday about 1/3 of the vendors were open. They didn't even offer tickets in the upper bowl only the lower.
 
How did you all feel about Stewarts extended amount of minutes? He came in and hit a 3, but I didn't really hear from him for the rest of the game. I was surprised he played that much, but it goes to show Lav is so desperate for shooters.

You know you want to just forget about this loss and move on but it is hard because you know now the zone is something we will see not only next Saturday, but for the whole year if we continue to struggle.

A win against cuse would do wonders for this team. First of all it is doable because this is one of the more weak Syracuse teams I think I have seen. Don't have much depth down low much like us. Secondly, beating them would put the confidence level of this team on another level. Harrison has taken losses to Syracuse since he was a freshmen, and a win at their place I feel like would really get the team juiced and ready for conference play. I think we are in a good position going into Saturday. Put Dom in the middle of that zone like you did tonight, lock down Cooney like we were able to do last year, and I think we can another resume booster.

Just think, if we can get into conference play with wins over Minnesota, st Mary's, and Syracuse, with a close loss to Gonzaga, and wins over every cupcake, that's best case scenario and probably puts us in a position where 9-10 conference wins should do it.


Don't have much depth down low much like us? I wouldn't mind having Christmas and McCullogh.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

What exactly has this group done to deserve significant attention in the biggest city in the world with 2 professional team in each sport?



Are you really saying we support this team only when we are a winning program? I have been a fan since the championship game between us and the Clyde Lovellet Kansas Jayhawks. I suffered through the depressing years when Mulzoff was still coach. And I will continue to support the Redmen whether we win or lose.
 
I don't think anyone on here talked about our missed free throws, free throws wins games. We would of won today again if it wasn't for us shooting so poorly at the line. This has been a trend for the past 2 years now, we would of been a tournament team last year if we just hit out free throws. Remember the games against DePaul, providence , and Syracuse we lost those 3 games all because we missed throws. We let another one slip away, but I have faith in my johnnies we will make the dance this year !!!
 
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Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.
We are still an after thought in this town, and unfortunately we have done nothing to change that!


like i said before....what exactly is the draw of MSG for recruits? As historic a building it is....no one wants to play in front of 5k fans...
 
I don't think anyone on here talked about our missed free throws, free throws wins games. We would of won today again if it wasn't for us shooting so poorly at the line. This has been a trend for the past 2 years now, we would of been a tournament team last year if we just hit out free throws. Remember the games against DePaul, providence , and Syracuse we lost those 3 games all because we missed throws. We let another one slip away, but I have faith in my johnnies we will make the dance this year !!!

You're right, but Gonzaga's foul shooting yesterday kind of cancelled it out. If you're going to say that about us (and you are correct), you also have to say that Gonzaga would have won going away if they had made their free throws, too.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen

When are you inviting section 114 over? The dwindling section 114.

SJU games at MSG are beginning to look like Belmont Park on a Sunday less the Fan Dance Cam.
 
How did you all feel about Stewarts extended amount of minutes? He came in and hit a 3, but I didn't really hear from him for the rest of the game. I was surprised he played that much, but it goes to show Lav is so desperate for shooters.

You know you want to just forget about this loss and move on but it is hard because you know now the zone is something we will see not only next Saturday, but for the whole year if we continue to struggle.

A win against cuse would do wonders for this team. First of all it is doable because this is one of the more weak Syracuse teams I think I have seen. Don't have much depth down low much like us. Secondly, beating them would put the confidence level of this team on another level. Harrison has taken losses to Syracuse since he was a freshmen, and a win at their place I feel like would really get the team juiced and ready for conference play. I think we are in a good position going into Saturday. Put Dom in the middle of that zone like you did tonight, lock down Cooney like we were able to do last year, and I think we can another resume booster.

Just think, if we can get into conference play with wins over Minnesota, st Mary's, and Syracuse, with a close loss to Gonzaga, and wins over every cupcake, that's best case scenario and probably puts us in a position where 9-10 conference wins should do it.


Don't have much depth down low much like us? I wouldn't mind having Christmas and McCullogh.

If they came to SJU a "third party" anonymous source would have called the school to screw them.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

What exactly has this group done to deserve significant attention in the biggest city in the world with 2 professional team in each sport?

They've done enough to draw you to posting about them every single day.
 
Attendance- 5545 Pathetic!


How about disgraceful!

Top ten team in MSG on a Friday night of a Holiday weekend.

We have the worst fan support in the country. The worst.

I have to throw myself into that group last night but I blame it on PC Richards.

On the bright side my new ultra hi def tv was delivered last night so now it seems like the games are being played in my living room :)

Now I just have to put a bronx pale ale vendor in my kitchen

When are you inviting section 114 over? The dwindling section 114.

SJU games at MSG are beginning to look like Belmont Park on a Sunday less the Fan Dance Cam.
that's not a bad idea. I might have to have a 114 game viewing party for an away game this season
 
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