Fire Lavin!

[stjohnschris]

There was a different (good different) chemistry with Dunlap in the coaching mix. The things he brought to the table were never replaced when he left for Charlotte.
I have no problem with Lavin being our head coach, but we need another Dunlap type on the bench...a no-nonsense x's and o's, fundamentals coach.

 

[ras]

We lost yesterday in a game we probably should have won. But prior to that, we were something like 10 -2. W the 2 losses being very close,away games against top 10 opposition. That was a remarkable stretch. Gotta give Lavin the benefit of the doubt at this time IMO.

 

[monte]

The 2011 class was what it was.

Even if Jakarr qualified, that would've just added to the fact that we had a bunch of players with the exact same skillset.

Slasher (Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Garrett), combo guard (D'Lo, Phil), PG who can't shoot (Nurideen).

That is not a formula for success. Just look at the last 2 national championship teams. They had players who can consistently shoot from the outside and rebounding.

This falls on Lavin because if he is going to recruit these types of players, he better put them in position to maximize their abilities.

Dom is a waste on offense. Him and Phil should never be on the floor at the same time because the collective basketball IQ drops even further than it is.

Max can probably hit 40-45% of his 3s. Why is he only brought in with 10 seconds left in the half?

Someone on the staff feels that it is quite alright to have your tallest player pump faking at the 3 point line instead of playing down low.

I mean, I can go on and on.

Point is, you recruit them, you better know how to use them. If not, step aside and stick to recruiting like in 2011.

I will criticize Lavin for a lot of things, not playing Max is not one of them. On the year Max is shooting 38% on his 3s, and that's with a 4-5 game included. Look at his game logs and you'll see that he has hardly performed when given an opportunity. Maybe with more playing time, and if left wide open(which will never happen), he can improve his %. But the reality is that defenses have no problem stopping Max because Max is not a Big East level player. Hell he wasn't even an Ivy league level player. The fact that he can quasi-consistently hit an outside shot does not mean he should be getting PT. He is put in the game with 10 seconds left in the half or as he was at the end of the Nova game not because he is likely going to get a look, but so that he can help spread the defense/act as a decoy.

 

[Moose]

The 2011 class was what it was.

Even if Jakarr qualified, that would've just added to the fact that we had a bunch of players with the exact same skillset.

Slasher (Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Garrett), combo guard (D'Lo, Phil), PG who can't shoot (Nurideen).

That is not a formula for success. Just look at the last 2 national championship teams. They had players who can consistently shoot from the outside and rebounding.

This falls on Lavin because if he is going to recruit these types of players, he better put them in position to maximize their abilities.

Dom is a waste on offense. Him and Phil should never be on the floor at the same time because the collective basketball IQ drops even further than it is.

Max can probably hit 40-45% of his 3s. Why is he only brought in with 10 seconds left in the half?

Someone on the staff feels that it is quite alright to have your tallest player pump faking at the 3 point line instead of playing down low.

I mean, I can go on and on.

Point is, you recruit them, you better know how to use them. If not, step aside and stick to recruiting like in 2011.

I will criticize Lavin for a lot of things, not playing Max is not one of them. On the year Max is shooting 38% on his 3s, and that's with a 4-5 game included. Look at his game logs and you'll see that he has hardly performed when given an opportunity. Maybe with more playing time, and if left wide open(which will never happen), he can improve his %. But the reality is that defenses have no problem stopping Max because Max is not a Big East level player. Hell he wasn't even an Ivy league level player. The fact that he can quasi-consistently hit an outside shot does not mean he should be getting PT. He is put in the game with 10 seconds left in the half or as he was at the end of the Nova game not because he is likely going to get a look, but so that he can help spread the defense/act as a decoy.

I'd like to see him in a real offense. Plenty of other players like him have done just fine for themselves at this level.

 

[Class of 72]

I agree with some previous posters that this thread is totally inappropriate and does nothing but hurt the program since this appears to be a public site.  
Our wizard may not be the wizard of Westwood but Lord knows he has been light years better than Norman Roberts under whom we wished and prayed for an NIT invitation.  
After 29 games and many close losses it is obvious we have the talent to compete in the new Big East.  The limitations of a few players that were projected to be very good players and who have seemingly reached their peak has has slowed our resurgence.  I know some of you have coached pre-pubescent boys and girls and know as much as Lavin but coaching young men with a boat load of issues and getting them on the same page every game is as much a battle of egos as it is teaching them the game of basketball.  We have players with mother issues, girlfriend issues, and as we now see with Primo, wife and daughter issues.  
This team is going to a post season tournament, and it will not be CBI which was Roberts level coaching.  The inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games.  Last night Harrison hit a career low in every aspect of his game and former prep school teammate Reynolds embarrassed Sampson.  None of that is on coach.  Although deep in personnel, when those players have mediocre games we have the likes of Pointer, Gift and Greene to rely on and they just cannot play at a high level.  The Hooper experiment has failed this year but at least he has room to grow. 
Players like Jordan, Sampson and Obekpa  need to be on top of their game for this team to win.  Harrison unfortunately is both a weapon and a liability.  When hot we have another dimension but when cold his added lack of defensive talent and emotions hurt the team.  That Lavin has started to sit him to cool his emotions shows he knows his limitations.  That players like Pointer and Branch have not been able to fill the void has been a major setback for this team.
That said, I go back to what I have been saying since we started 0-5, this team needs to win the Big East tourney to convince the fans that they belong in the NCAA.  Without that crown, their best chance for multiple games in March will be the NIT in New York and MSG.

 

[ct_redstorm]

This thread is embarrassing. Those questioning Lavin for Max's playing time is even more embarrassing.

 

[monte]

The 2011 class was what it was.

Even if Jakarr qualified, that would've just added to the fact that we had a bunch of players with the exact same skillset.

Slasher (Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Garrett), combo guard (D'Lo, Phil), PG who can't shoot (Nurideen).

That is not a formula for success. Just look at the last 2 national championship teams. They had players who can consistently shoot from the outside and rebounding.

This falls on Lavin because if he is going to recruit these types of players, he better put them in position to maximize their abilities.

Dom is a waste on offense. Him and Phil should never be on the floor at the same time because the collective basketball IQ drops even further than it is.

Max can probably hit 40-45% of his 3s. Why is he only brought in with 10 seconds left in the half?

Someone on the staff feels that it is quite alright to have your tallest player pump faking at the 3 point line instead of playing down low.

I mean, I can go on and on.

Point is, you recruit them, you better know how to use them. If not, step aside and stick to recruiting like in 2011.

I will criticize Lavin for a lot of things, not playing Max is not one of them. On the year Max is shooting 38% on his 3s, and that's with a 4-5 game included. Look at his game logs and you'll see that he has hardly performed when given an opportunity. Maybe with more playing time, and if left wide open(which will never happen), he can improve his %. But the reality is that defenses have no problem stopping Max because Max is not a Big East level player. Hell he wasn't even an Ivy league level player. The fact that he can quasi-consistently hit an outside shot does not mean he should be getting PT. He is put in the game with 10 seconds left in the half or as he was at the end of the Nova game not because he is likely going to get a look, but so that he can help spread the defense/act as a decoy.

I'd like to see him in a real offense. Plenty of other players like him have done just fine for themselves at this level.

Could he be a useful roll player(with limited minutes) in the right offense and under the right tutelage? Possibly. But that ain't never going to happen here because that is not the kind of offense that Lavin runs. I'm still not quite sure what kind of offense Lavin runs. So to expect a kid who is a borderline D1 talent to become a consistently useful cog in this machine is unrealistic IMO.

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

Can we stop with this Fire Lavin nonsense.

 

[SJUISBACK]

hate the timeout when we cut it to four

I need to ask a question. Maybe I`m dumb and maybe the hot hand needs to be taking out, but
WTF TAKE SANCHEZ OUT SANCHEZ WHEN HE WAS 4-5 FOR 11PNTS EARLY ON.
F`ing whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Can someone explain Lavin stragery?

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Lavin pulled Orlando after he picked up his second foul middle of the first half, and Orlando has been known to accumulate fouls quickly.

With as hot as he was, I would have kept him in, and take a chance. When he came in later he didn`t do anything anyway.
So what`s the difference?

 

[dee]

We lost yesterday in a game we probably should have won. But prior to that, we were something like 10 -2. W the 2 losses being very close,away games against top 10 opposition. That was a remarkable stretch. Gotta give Lavin the benefit of the doubt at this time IMO.

I want to be positive, very positive but after last night one thing is clear to me- This team aint got what it takes. Pack the balls and go to the beach, the summer is coming soon

 

[SJUalum98]

The 2011 class was what it was.

Even if Jakarr qualified, that would've just added to the fact that we had a bunch of players with the exact same skillset.

Slasher (Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Garrett), combo guard (D'Lo, Phil), PG who can't shoot (Nurideen).

That is not a formula for success. Just look at the last 2 national championship teams. They had players who can consistently shoot from the outside and rebounding.

This falls on Lavin because if he is going to recruit these types of players, he better put them in position to maximize their abilities.

Dom is a waste on offense. Him and Phil should never be on the floor at the same time because the collective basketball IQ drops even further than it is.

Max can probably hit 40-45% of his 3s. Why is he only brought in with 10 seconds left in the half?

Someone on the staff feels that it is quite alright to have your tallest player pump faking at the 3 point line instead of playing down low.

I mean, I can go on and on.

Point is, you recruit them, you better know how to use them. If not, step aside and stick to recruiting like in 2011.

I will criticize Lavin for a lot of things, not playing Max is not one of them. On the year Max is shooting 38% on his 3s, and that's with a 4-5 game included. Look at his game logs and you'll see that he has hardly performed when given an opportunity. Maybe with more playing time, and if left wide open(which will never happen), he can improve his %. But the reality is that defenses have no problem stopping Max because Max is not a Big East level player. Hell he wasn't even an Ivy league level player. The fact that he can quasi-consistently hit an outside shot does not mean he should be getting PT. He is put in the game with 10 seconds left in the half or as he was at the end of the Nova game not because he is likely going to get a look, but so that he can help spread the defense/act as a decoy.

Please define what a Big East player is.

Because the "Big East" players on our roster cannot hit a permiter jumper. Max can.

When Dom is in the game, he stands on the perimeter and holds the ball. No one moves within 5 feet of him and all he does is pass it. Is Dom a "Big East" player?

Lavin doesn't know how to utilize the kid. 38% when everyone in the gym knows what he's going to do. It's spot duty.

And please save the he sucks at defense argument because ALL of our guards allow penetration.

 

[mkras99]

Great job being in this thread back.

 

[mjmaherjr]

this thread is like herpes

 

[mkras99]

this thread is like herpes

What does that make the person that brought it back?

 

[mjmaherjr]

this thread is like herpes

What does that make the person that brought it back?

the guy that forgot to wear protection. lol

 

[Class of 72]

this thread is like herpes

My boon buddy Dr. Fun would likely correct you and tell you that the thread is more like syphilis and proceed to provide photos. I, on the other hand, think we are being collectively punished every time it gets resurrected. We all become Sisyphus.

 

[cmurph]

Tell me if I am wrong, 38 points in the paint why wasn't a zone used at the start if the second half to prevent those easy baskets? Harrison was shut down and where were the picks to give him a shot? All the other teams do it . What are all those suits doing on the bench? This seems to be x and o basketball and I am no coach. 38 points in the paint that's atrocious ...

 

[dad742]

1ST POST EVER. LETS ADMIT WHAT WE ALL KNOW. LAVIN CAN RECRUIT, BUT AS A BENCH COACH HE SUCKS. CANT SPEAK ABOUT THE REST OF THE COACHES, BUT THE FINAL DECISIONS ARE ALL ON HIM. WE SHOULD NOT LOSE GAMES LIKE THIS.

 

[mjmaherjr]

1ST POST EVER. LETS ADMIT WHAT WE ALL KNOW. LAVIN CAN RECRUIT, BUT AS A BENCH COACH HE SUCKS. CANT SPEAK ABOUT THE REST OF THE COACHES, BUT THE FINAL DECISIONS ARE ALL ON HIM. WE SHOULD NOT LOSE GAMES LIKE THIS.

if it's your 1st post ever why does your post total say 6 posts ?

 

[kranmars]

1ST POST EVER. LETS ADMIT WHAT WE ALL KNOW. LAVIN CAN RECRUIT, BUT AS A BENCH COACH HE SUCKS. CANT SPEAK ABOUT THE REST OF THE COACHES, BUT THE FINAL DECISIONS ARE ALL ON HIM. WE SHOULD NOT LOSE GAMES LIKE THIS.

if it's your 1st post ever why does your post total say 6 posts ?

Yeah but this is his first post in all caps.