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tom in salem
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About 3,500 tickets out for tomorrow's #STJBB Opener. We need you, Johnnies Fans! Come on out, the season is here! #ItStartsNow
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About 3,500 tickets out for tomorrow's #STJBB Opener. We need you, Johnnies Fans! Come on out, the season is here! #ItStartsNow
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we are sju
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See, generally people react happily when good things happen. You know you get a promotion, get laid, your team wins. And generally those same people react sadly when bad things happen. You know, you get fired, you get drunk and have sex with a fat girl, your favorite college team loses two guys from their rotation right before the season starts and their best player and coach don't seem to get along.
rawdognyc
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you have no clue what DLO even did...it's so idiotic to make presumptions on what is going on, much less that him and coach aren't getting along.... what 2 players?? wasn't it just Orlando that you heard rumors about?? i guess Marco made some mistakes 3 years ago to...has anyone translated his facebook page today?? I would but don't speak french...
boo haarvey
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Based on what I saw in the exhibitions -- I don't think we fair much better than we did last year give or take a game or two. I hope I'm completely wrong. Maybe Borgeault gets eligible and he shoots lights out. Maybe Branch will be a difference maker in December. Maybe Harrision gets his head on straight. I just don't see where the offense is going to come from. I like Sampson a lot, but to expect him to replace Mo is asking a lot. Obekpa seems like he'll be very good, but he's a freshman with a limited offensive game. Jones is undersized and a freshman -- it's not realistic to expect him to be a top Big East player out of the gates.
I really had high hopes for Sanchez. I agree with those who say we should play the games -- heck I've never even seen Sanchez play. But this is sooo frustrating.
boo haarvey
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Agree Rawdog that we don't know all the facts. But don't we have a right to be frustrated? I really don't know whose at fault. I just know that my favorite team may have to play without two potential impact players, which is eerily reminiscent of what happened last year.
we are sju
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I have no idea, but what does that have to do with anything? Since Lavin has decided, right or wrong,( I am not judging who is at fault becuase as we both mentioned I have no idea) our best player is being punished 3 games in a row. There is clearly something there. Based on what we know about Harrison and him being our best player, I don't think you would say this is a good thing.
As far as Marco, I doubt he will be eligible for the first game. If what people on this board were telling me in private is true, at some point he will be declared eligible for one season. Hopefully that turns out to be the case
rawdognyc
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of course it's ok to be frustrated. I hate the fact that we are dealing with this. was hoping for smooth sailing. with that being said, these are things that we have no control over so why stress over it or get overly frustrated? the team will either have sanchez or they wont. simple as that. if they don't have him we had God's Gift. Perhaps not as talented, but he has played a year in the big east. actually with the minutes he put it, almost two years... we have plenty of players if sanchez isnt eligible and our staff will get them ready to be the best players they can be... last year was a lot different. however i understand your concern
We know what coach told us. And coach Lavin said D'angelo didn't necessarily break any rules, but that he (Lavin) has a heightened expectation of leadership for Harrison this season, and expects him to go above and beyond. He hasn't, and that's why he was benched.
That's what coach actually said before the 2nd preseason game. I can find the quotes if you'd like.
That doesn't sound like a good enough reason to bench your best player all preseason and give him another slap for the first game.
rawdognyc
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So are you saying that Lavin has to give every reason to the public as to why DLO was being benched? Perhaps it's that and something else...Just because he gives a reason, doesn't mean there isn't anything besides that, that he may feel is frankly none of our business
Moose
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Gonna be tough for most fans. I have to take a half day and this time of year it was not well received.
How many kids are on campus. They are the ones that should be killing 2 hours at the end of the day there. I sure hope that they aren't separating tickets from student seats. Cancel classes for opening day, geez
No, but don't lie. Just say for internal reasons. Coaches across the country do that on a regular basis.
Coach said he didn't do anything major, just wasn't living up to heightened expectations. So, either:
1) D'angelo did more than coach is telling us, in which case just say he violated team rules. The end. Don't suspend your best player for 2 games, not start him for the third, and tell everyone he didn't do anything wrong.
or
2) D'angelo really didn't commit any major violations, in which case he should be on the floor - he deserves to start.
Gonna be tough for most fans. I have to take a half day and this time of year it was not well received.
How many kids are on campus. They are the ones that should be killing 2 hours at the end of the day there. I sure hope that they aren't separating tickets from student seats. Cancel classes for opening day, geez
I'll admit it's also hard to get people juiced about college basketball in early November.
rawdognyc
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Does it really matter though?? Obviously he has his reasons. He won't start, however you can bet as long as he stays out of foul trouble he will see 30 plus minutes... Who cares if he misses the first 2-4 minutes of the first half?? It's not that big of a deal, and obviously Lavin feels it is warranted for whatever reason., In the perfect world, I'd love for D'Angelo to start and Orlando and Marco in the game, but it is what it is. Roll with it..
You are right, in the big scheme of things it doesn't matter all that much. 30 minutes is 30 minutes whether it be to start the game or as a substitute.
But, I would worry that 1) D'angelo barely got any pt during the exhibition games to develop chemistry with the new parts. and 2) every one of these benchings is another slap on the wrist to d'angelo. He's a temperamental kid as it is. If it's being done unnecessarily, then eventually he may lose his head. Heck, he may lose it anyway.