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The book has been written on Mullen. Hall of famer Paid to bring back alma mater back. Now his alma mater is stuck with him & he will leave on his own terms when he is ready. The blame falls squarely on him as he is head of basketball. For those of you optimistic for next year, your delusional. If these guys can’t produce now as juniors then how will they as seniors?

The excuse is this 5 starters, no bench. It's the truth though, hard to win when it's 5 on 8 or 9.

Next year we'll have depth, so there will be no excuse in year 4.
Such lack of faith in our fan base. Don't worry they will come up with tons of excuses. They always do.

Not from me, I tell it how it is, no bs blind eye, sugar coating things. Next year will tell alot about Chris Mullins coaching ability, and trust me, I won't be back tracking on that next year.
I pray the legend is the coach who turns us around, because if he can't, then probably no one will. That's how I feel.
Won't tell us anymore than we already know. As for if he can't no one will maybe we can go the route of hiring an actual competent basketball coach with a good track record. We spend enough to do so as men's hoops is our marquee sport and right now man is that marquee tattered.

Well truth, next year could be the most important years since the Artest years. Mullin will have the depth, so no excuses for his coaching next year. If they are avg next year then they probably won't be good under Mullin.
Would we bring in a big time coach to replace mullin when he leave or a mid major guy and hope he can turn things around? I think next year will tell alot for ST. John's.
 
You guys crack me up. Do you seriously think Mullin should have been able to coach one or two conference wins out of this team? Its purely delusional.

When your bench consists of yakwe, trimball and Ali, the starters have to play defense in a manner that keeps them on the floor. Two fouls before the 10 minute mark earns a trip to the bench; a third any time before halftime is the same, and a 4th earns you a seat until the last 5 minutes of a game - intensity drained.

Lovett and Ponds are a 2 headed nightmare even for good teams, and everyone else - Clark, Owens, and Ahmed play supporting roles. Simon can be the maestro at full strength.

Imagine a good supporting actor playing the lead in a big movie - in the deniro, Brando, pacino roles in the godfather. Abe Vigoda?

You get the point. Remove Lovett and Ahmed becomes option 2, and Ali becomes a minute eating sub. You cant win like that.

Before you idiots run Mullin out of town, let's see what he does with a talent laden roster and judge him then. You want to be critical of him as he matures as a coach, fine. But john wooden, Bobby Knight, or more accurately two guys who ran away when their best players departed- Riley and Phil Jackson- wouldnt win here with this roster in its current depleted state.

Starting a fire Mullin movement at this moment is just disgusting and I hope that some of you in a Kmart job competing against Amazon worry about getting fired because your store just doesn't have the quality to compete.

This year is starting to suck, but the roster is continually improving - at full strength this is a bubble team, nothing more. A deep talented roster is right around the corner, do you can judge Mullin then. Until then, let's just shut up about firing him. Its just unnecessary nonsense at this point.

 
Hire Danny Hurley before UCONN gets him.

Uconn just gave Ollie a contract extension so they won’t fire him this year. So that will leave Uconn and SJU with one more year to figure out their situations. I sense Uconn fans are a little more irritable than SJU fans right now, but with Connecticut financial situation I doubt they will move anytime soon.
 
Hire Danny Hurley before UCONN gets him.

Uconn just gave Ollie a contract extension so they won’t fire him this year. So that will leave Uconn and SJU with one more year to figure out their situations. I sense Uconn fans are a little more irritable than SJU fans right now, but with Connecticut financial situation I doubt they will move anytime soon.

What makes you think Danny Hurley wants to come here?
 
I said it last week. We don’t have Big East level players except for Ponds and LoVett. Ponds is in a serious slump and making bad decisions like everyone else. Mullen hasn’t been great and they seem to need better, more focused practice planning but Mullin is not the problem right now
 
To be fair, besides the two you noted, we have other players that are Big East level....

They just are not putting it together.

 
You guys crack me up. Do you seriously think Mullin should have been able to coach one or two conference wins out of this team? Its purely delusional.

When your bench consists of yakwe, trimball and Ali, the starters have to play defense in a manner that keeps them on the floor. Two fouls before the 10 minute mark earns a trip to the bench; a third any time before halftime is the same, and a 4th earns you a seat until the last 5 minutes of a game - intensity drained.

Lovett and Ponds are a 2 headed nightmare even for good teams, and everyone else - Clark, Owens, and Ahmed play supporting roles. Simon can be the maestro at full strength.

Imagine a good supporting actor playing the lead in a big movie - in the deniro, Brando, pacino roles in the godfather. Abe Vigoda?

You get the point. Remove Lovett and Ahmed becomes option 2, and Ali becomes a minute eating sub. You cant win like that.

Before you idiots run Mullin out of town, let's see what he does with a talent laden roster and judge him then. You want to be critical of him as he matures as a coach, fine. But john wooden, Bobby Knight, or more accurately two guys who ran away when their best players departed- Riley and Phil Jackson- wouldnt win here with this roster in its current depleted state.

Starting a fire Mullin movement at this moment is just disgusting and I hope that some of you in a Kmart job competing against Amazon worry about getting fired because your store just doesn't have the quality to compete.

This year is starting to suck, but the roster is continually improving - at full strength this is a bubble team, nothing more. A deep talented roster is right around the corner, do you can judge Mullin then. Until then, let's just shut up about firing him. Its just unnecessary nonsense at this point.

I would actually take your missive seriously but you are same guy that voted to put a mad man in office as POTUS and likely think the Republican Tax Plan will benefit high tax states like New York or any other blue state.
Before the Lovett injury most of the idiot savants here were predicting we would win half our Big East games and become a bubble team in March?:(
Now you say "You guys crack me up. Do you seriously think Mullin should have been able to coach one or two conference wins out of this team? Its purely delusional. When your bench consists of yakwe, trimball and Ali, the starters have to play defense in a manner that keeps them on the floor. "
Of course it is "the players" and not Chris Mullin! They just cannot grasp his highly technical offensive sets that rely on taking 3 point shots by anyone and everyone from Shamorie, Ahmed, and Lovett but also Clark, Owens and of course Alibegovic and Trimble. Apparently the smartest player on this team is Kassoum Yakwe who knows his limitations. I of course disagreed with most here and thought we were always an NIT team even if we split every conference game because we don't have any players willing to crash the boards and Mullin has no designs on designing an inside/outside game.
But yes I believe Mullin should have won at least half our conference games with the talent he has THIS YEAR even if he is the most technically incompetent coach in the conference at present. No, he won't be fired because mom and pop can't afford to pay off any more coaches. And as a Republican you should understand that the Lavins, Mullins, Slices of the world will collect their paychecks win or lose while we five and dimers schlep to the games in 10 degree weather to sit in a high school gym to watch kids play NBA basketball with 3 star talents only to be schooled by better prepared teams.
 
You guys crack me up. Do you seriously think Mullin should have been able to coach one or two conference wins out of this team? Its purely delusional.

When your bench consists of yakwe, trimball and Ali, the starters have to play defense in a manner that keeps them on the floor. Two fouls before the 10 minute mark earns a trip to the bench; a third any time before halftime is the same, and a 4th earns you a seat until the last 5 minutes of a game - intensity drained.

Lovett and Ponds are a 2 headed nightmare even for good teams, and everyone else - Clark, Owens, and Ahmed play supporting roles. Simon can be the maestro at full strength.

Imagine a good supporting actor playing the lead in a big movie - in the deniro, Brando, pacino roles in the godfather. Abe Vigoda?

You get the point. Remove Lovett and Ahmed becomes option 2, and Ali becomes a minute eating sub. You cant win like that.

Before you idiots run Mullin out of town, let's see what he does with a talent laden roster and judge him then. You want to be critical of him as he matures as a coach, fine. But john wooden, Bobby Knight, or more accurately two guys who ran away when their best players departed- Riley and Phil Jackson- wouldnt win here with this roster in its current depleted state.

Starting a fire Mullin movement at this moment is just disgusting and I hope that some of you in a Kmart job competing against Amazon worry about getting fired because your store just doesn't have the quality to compete.

This year is starting to suck, but the roster is continually improving - at full strength this is a bubble team, nothing more. A deep talented roster is right around the corner, do you can judge Mullin then. Until then, let's just shut up about firing him. Its just unnecessary nonsense at this point.

I would actually take your missive seriously but you are same guy that voted to put a mad man in office as POTUS and likely think the Republican Tax Plan will benefit high tax states like New York or any other blue state.
Before the Lovett injury most of the idiot savants here were predicting we would win half our Big East games and become a bubble team in March?:(
Now you say "You guys crack me up. Do you seriously think Mullin should have been able to coach one or two conference wins out of this team? Its purely delusional. When your bench consists of yakwe, trimball and Ali, the starters have to play defense in a manner that keeps them on the floor. "
Of course it is "the players" and not Chris Mullin! They just cannot grasp his highly technical offensive sets that rely on taking 3 point shots by anyone and everyone from Shamorie, Ahmed, and Lovett but also Clark, Owens and of course Alibegovic and Trimble. Apparently the smartest player on this team is Kassoum Yakwe who knows his limitations. I of course disagreed with most here and thought we were always an NIT team even if we split every conference game because we don't have any players willing to crash the boards and Mullin has no designs on designing an inside/outside game.
But yes I believe Mullin should have won at least half our conference games with the talent he has THIS YEAR even if he is the most technically incompetent coach in the conference at present. No, he won't be fired because mom and pop can't afford to pay off any more coaches. And as a Republican you should understand that the Lavins, Mullins, Slices of the world will collect their paychecks win or lose while we five and dimers schlep to the games in 10 degree weather to sit in a high school gym to watch kids play NBA basketball with 3 star talents only to be schooled by better prepared teams.

I like you too much to argue, but had I not sent in an absentee ballot for Trump, the real beast of the east would be president right now. Karma, not math.

Without a Lovett injury, an 0-4 Start would put a lot more on Mullin. I do think Cooley out coached him, but think we'd have list anyway.

Please go back to fighting your arch enemy. Its more entertaining. :)
 
I said it last week. We don’t have Big East level players except for Ponds and LoVett. Ponds is in a serious slump and making bad decisions like everyone else. Mullen hasn’t been great and they seem to need better, more focused practice planning but Mullin is not the problem right now

Mullin may not be the primary reason the team is in a nosedive,but his laissez faire coaching style isn't doing this team any favors. Ponds is mired in an awful shooting slump, and he takes 24 shots today, including 1 for 9 from 3. That's been a typical game for him lately. Take away that 1 for 9, and the team shoots about 50% from 3. He has been taking ill advised threes all season, and no one on the staff seems to think that's a problem. Mullin was clear about his approach on offense from day one. It's better to take any shot than turn the ball over. As if those are the only 2 options available.

To think he would be a good coach from day one would denigrate all the coaches that spent years as assistants or working their way up from small programs. I didn't expect that. He is here to recruit the top local talent that the prior coach found too tedious to bother with. When he has that talent, coupled with some years getting comfortable with the job, then the team will win. Until then, this style of letting everyone shoot when the mood hits them isn't a winning formula when your players are not good shooters, and is more problematic when they don't rebound or defend.
 
Today’s game blew my expectations for the Season out-of-the-water; I think we’ll rebound to win some games. But we won’t be dancing anywhere this year. I think we do have BE talent and I count 6 guys (Ponds, LoVett, Simon, Ahmed, Owens, Clark) whom I believe are definitely BE caliber. The problem is two-fold: depth and injuries to two critical guards who make the offense go. Ponds has issues with his injuries and his shot and needs LoVett for balance and to lessen the make-things-go burden. Beyond those 6, Yakwe is the next best player who can contribute. Trimble is a work-in-progress who likely will not contribute much as a freshman, but I wouldn’t write him off.
Looking forward to next year—when based on our talent and our depth—Mullin can be judged. Certainly premature to write the guy off and seek a new coach at this point.
C’mon guys.
 
Today’s game blew my expectations for the Season out-of-the-water; I think we’ll rebound to win some games. But we won’t be dancing anywhere this year. I think we do have BE talent and I count 6 guys (Ponds, LoVett, Simon, Ahmed, Owen, Clark) whom I believe are definitely BE caliber. The problem is two-fold: depth and injuries to two critical guards who make the offense go. Ponds has issues with his injuries and his shot and needs LoVett for balance and to lessen the make-things-go burden. Beyond those 6, Yakwe is the next best player who can contribute. Trimble is a work-in-progress who likely will not contribute much as a freshman, but I wouldn’t write him off.
Looking forward to next year—when based on our talent and our depth—Mullin can be judged. Certainly premature to write the guy off and seek a new coach at this point.
C’mon guys.
Players don't need the tournament to go dancing. They do enough of it on the court.
 
Walking out of that Gym today I was LIVID. Watching Depaul manhandle us in every facet was humiliating, and watching there kids basically laughing at us made it even worse. Then there is our own players smiling on the bench while we are getting our asses kicked. The only two St. John’s players/staff who showed any energy wasYakwe & Greg St. Jean yelling on the bench. Maybe if it was Mullin yelling occasionally it would be effective.

I’m on the record here somewhere wanting B. Hurley as the coach but that ship has sailed. I jumped in with Mullin and will continue. Lets look what is going on ......
1. Depth was an issue going in. And here we are In conference play getting shredded. A injury
To Lovett, the poor development of Yakwe (or lack of basketball talent), only having 9 scholarship players. Having NO FRONTCOURT TALENT. Owens has suddenly become a stretch 4 (kudos to him for working on his perimeter game) but we need him in the paint. We just get crushed on the boards. These guys are gassed by 10 minutes mark. And if a player isn’t playing well Mullin has to go with who he has.

2. No one has emerged as an on court leader. Ponds is a great scorer but leader? Not even close. Personally I think Shamorie is soft. Just once I would love to see a player get in a teammates face and call them out for a piss poor play or decision. I though Clark was going to be that guy, so far I’m wrong.

3. Coaching has been so so this year. I thought early in the year they were running some nice sets. But the last 5-6 games totally lost. The fact we get zoned every game and still can’t be somewhat effective is baffling. Defensively we have limited matchup ability with 6 guys. But a lot of defense especially on the perimeter is hustle and effort.

4. Sorry the crowd at Carnesecca blows. This is my first year as season ticket holder. Total snooze fest. Half of the sections up top are community freebies given away. No energy at all. I think the average age for a season ticket holder is 75 . I have 6 that sit directly in front of me (2 are around 30) I can’t think of once all season where they got up and actually made some noise. If I hurt your feelings sorry . Now of course it’s school has been out so maybe that will change. I will say the Nebraska game crowd was pretty good.

5. Our OCS was soft leading us too a 10-2 record. With the exception of Arizona St. Leading many to some NCAA expectations. And here we are 0-4 in the Big East totally at the Nuclear level.

Chris Mullin is the head coach it’s on him. If you wanted him as our head coach or not, hope that he succeeds. Can you live with another Rebuild? If your on here it’s mostly Likely you love St. John’s basketball. I know I do.

Here’s the good news we have good basketball players coming in next year.

I have full confidence there will be a shakeup in his staff for next season.

 
I said it last week. We don’t have Big East level players except for Ponds and LoVett. Ponds is in a serious slump and making bad decisions like everyone else. Mullen hasn’t been great and they seem to need better, more focused practice planning but Mullin is not the problem right now

So if we are and will be the last place team in the Big East in year three....even behind DePaul. ...in a 10 team conference it must be Lavin's fault.
So DePaul and Providence and Georgetown have Big East level players and we don't. It's Lavins fault.
Let's just make believe that Lavin didn't coach his teams to 4 winning seasons with 2 NITs and 2 NCAA invitations.
Let's make believe he didn't accomplish that in the old Big East that included not only Villanova, Georgetown and Providence but also Syracuse, Pitt, Cincinnati, West Virginia, UCONN, Notre Dame and Louisville.
Let's make believe Lavin left the roster with only 3 players instead of the new staff releasing Lavin recruits and decommittments from 2 three star and one 4 star recruit leaving the new staff to begin re-recruiting as they did with Lovett.
If they need better and more focused practices it must be Ron Linfont's fault since he was a carry-over from the previous staff.
Let's make believe Kassoum Yakwe was not a 4 star player his senior year on par with Jesse Govan and rated higher than Matt Ryan of Notre Dame. Let's forget he was a very promising freshman who has declined every year under this staff.
Let's make believe the rest of the team is not composed of 3, 4 and one 5 star players who, by any rational standard, should not be dead last in a 10 team conference.
It is the players.
 
Wonder how proactive Mullin is about seeking input, advice etc from outside (beyond Louie) or receptive to hearing what he might see but not be addressing correctly.....or might he be too proud to say some of this is on him..


The only thing that bothers me is his continued tolerance of sloppy play, bad shot selection etc.. how hard is that to require no jacking up 40 ft 3 pt shots at start of shot clock, or wild drive layup tosses.

I do believe Richmond needs to go and get some experience in his place. I'd hang on to St. Jean just because he seems like a workhorse and could be a successor if this program miraculously turns around like original vision calls for. Still, I could see St.Jean moving to some NBA role.
 
Wonder how proactive Mullin is about seeking input, advice etc from outside (beyond Louie) or receptive to hearing what he might see but not be addressing correctly.....or might he be too proud to say some of this is on him..


The only thing that bothers me is his continued tolerance of sloppy play, bad shot selection etc.. how hard is that to require no jacking up 40 ft 3 pt shots at start of shot clock, or wild drive layup tosses.

I do believe Richmond needs to go and get some experience in his place. I'd hang on to St. Jean just because he seems like a workhorse and could be a successor if this program miraculously turns around like original vision calls for. Still, I could see St.Jean moving to some NBA role.

Reality is we have the least experienced coaching staff not only in the conference but in the entire Power 6 of college basketball. If we had Kentucky or Duke level talent we could possibly get over on a few unprepared teams but better coaches with the same level of talent with just a little depth up front will always figure out our one trick pony offense. Notice that teams that rarely play zone play it against St. John's? Notice how we can't adjust? Mullin and Richmond were great college and pro players. Unfortunately young players don't learn basketball by just associating with former great players. If that were the case players from Bill Walton to Walter Berry would be successful college coaches. In Walton's case, a talented player could possibly become a terrible player and turn to drugs after listening to his mumbling for an extended period of time.
My only concern is that continued losing will deflate the current players and dissuade future players because it is hard to overcome negative recruiting if your brand gets a reputation for false advertising.
 
Not going to lie De La Rosa not looking too bad right now. Averaging almost a double double at Kent State. Would at least grab some boards for us. I know there was the whole Obekpa thing, but CO didn't seem like the easiest dude to get along with. Probably would of been a good idea to at least give Adonis a second chance and not run him off right away.
 
Any fair assessment of Mullin’s coaching has to throw out Season 1 as that was really a function of Lavin’s non existent recruiting . The 2 Transfers ,Simon and Clark are not program changers . Many here built them up as the Players who would take us to the next level . They haven’t yet and they played as poorly today as the rest of the team . They are average players who would have struggled for any PT at their former schools , Arizona and Mich State . Owens suddenly believes he is the best outside shooting option , while forgetting he should be blocking shots and make a effort at rebounding . Ahmed is What he is and we are getting that . Nothing more .
 
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