...Can we make the Tournament?
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Man, as much as I enjoyed that season and rooting for those kids, it always felt like a collection of disjointed parts. A ton of talent seperately, but not always a full team effort. We also really lacked depth and size that year.Beast of the East" post=418467 said:
Also just a correction Beast. After 13 games we were 7-6, and then split the next two to end up 8-7. From there was when the talk started of being at the top of the conference, but then we immediately lost 3 straight, two of those to Xavier and one to DePaul. I remember we all know the Xavier matchup was a bad one for us due to their size.
Beast - I agree with what you're saying, though since that team was senior laden and Mullin's 4th year (without a strong incoming class) it felt more stressful. It really felt like we needed to perform well or we'd be in for another rebuild, which is exactly what happened. I do agree though about not being too high on this team as things can change quickly, but this time it feels more like playing with house money.
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beast of the east
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Thanks for the correction. I didn't check and should have, but if I remember, we fought our way back to 7-6 and had a shot at second place. We basically folded down the streth. We also got embarrassed by Marquette in the BET for like 30 points.Room112" post=418514 said:
I was very thankful Mullin got us back into the winning column in the Big East Tournament, after I believe Lavin only won one game (his first, against Rutgers).Beast of the East" post=418517 said:
But man, we had some inexcusable losses.
2017: Beat Georgetown by 1, then lost to Villanova by 41
2018: Beat Georgetown by 11, then lost to Xavier by 28
2019: Beat Depaul by 8, then lost to Marquette by 32
Yes, I know the quick turnaround, back to back games etc. But those loss margins are inexcusable and speak to a team totally unprepared.
Nothing has changed. The prescription remains winning 3 more games (assuming we have 5 left and no UConn rematch) and then at least one in the BET. Fail to win 3 more games and it becomes winning a minimum of 2 in the BET.
Of course some of it depends on which 2 or 3 we win (obviously beating Nova, Seton Hall and X goes farther than beating Providence and DePaul, but the latter two are now must-wins and we probably need to find a third).
Of course some of it depends on which 2 or 3 we win (obviously beating Nova, Seton Hall and X goes farther than beating Providence and DePaul, but the latter two are now must-wins and we probably need to find a third).
Mullins Revenge
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We were a first 4 in before last nights game, we are now probably a first 4 out. Beat Xavier and we are right back in the field of 68.
St. John’s Red Storm
NET: 70, Resume: 65.0, Quality: 64.0
Q1: 2-5 | Q2: 2-2 | Q3: 5-1 | Q4: 4-0St. John’s has been trending in the right direction lately and a six-game winning streak plugged it into the bubble watch. The Red Storm followed that up with an overtime Q2 loss on the road to Butler, though, and that puts them once again with a fair amount of work left. The win over Villanova (NET 11) is certainly great, but there’s not a whole lot else on the resume. The Red Storm have mostly avoided bad losses but their second-best win is over another bubble team (UConn) and they are just 4-7 in Q1+2 games. It also doesn’t help that they rank sub-55 in every single team sheet metric. Due to their baseline of an excellent win and only one “bad” loss, though, they can still make a run. Four of SJU’s next five scheduled games (subject to change) are all at home with the lone road game coming against Villanova. I hesitate to name a record that they need to go in those games because they could still add a couple of games to their schedule, but taking two of three against Xavier, Villanova and Seton Hall over those five would be huge.
Rest of conference on link;
https://heatcheckcbb.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-watch-2021-what-will-it-take-to-dance/
NET: 70, Resume: 65.0, Quality: 64.0
Q1: 2-5 | Q2: 2-2 | Q3: 5-1 | Q4: 4-0St. John’s has been trending in the right direction lately and a six-game winning streak plugged it into the bubble watch. The Red Storm followed that up with an overtime Q2 loss on the road to Butler, though, and that puts them once again with a fair amount of work left. The win over Villanova (NET 11) is certainly great, but there’s not a whole lot else on the resume. The Red Storm have mostly avoided bad losses but their second-best win is over another bubble team (UConn) and they are just 4-7 in Q1+2 games. It also doesn’t help that they rank sub-55 in every single team sheet metric. Due to their baseline of an excellent win and only one “bad” loss, though, they can still make a run. Four of SJU’s next five scheduled games (subject to change) are all at home with the lone road game coming against Villanova. I hesitate to name a record that they need to go in those games because they could still add a couple of games to their schedule, but taking two of three against Xavier, Villanova and Seton Hall over those five would be huge.
Rest of conference on link;
https://heatcheckcbb.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-watch-2021-what-will-it-take-to-dance/
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Based on my view of the strength of the teams, I thought a split with Butler was in order. Now that we did not get that, a split with Xavier and Seton Hall are paramount; can't count on wins against Nova and UConn (if scheduled). DePaul, at home, is likely winnable, but I've been to DePaul at CA where they came in and won. Same with PC.
Let's just hope for being around .500 in BE regular season play. That'd be a successful season in my book.
Let's just hope for being around .500 in BE regular season play. That'd be a successful season in my book.
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We are maxed out on OOC games as far as I am aware. Only game we could add is UCONN which is probably best left alone at this point. Win 3 of last 5 and a game in BE tourney and we are solidly on the bubble imho. Win 4 remaining home games (Xavier, Depaul, PC & Hall) and we are in.
The Big Ten has (or did recently) something like 7 or 8 teams ranked in the top 50. Almost no amount of losing in that conference is going to hurt you too much, and wins will jump your rankings significantly.gman" post=419157 said:
It is far and away the best league this year, which is probably why no one is going to come out of there with a great record (I could also see all of those tough games taking a toll on their teams come tournament time).
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