...Can we make the Tournament?

[gman]

I get that and the net etc will show that, but a common sense check to me says their resume is no better than our at this moment. They are going to fall out of the top 25 and sit with us in others receive votes. I'm just not impressed with their resume.

 

[QueensBall]

SJU shows up in ESPN's first Bubble Watch. The last of three teams (Uconn, Seton Hall, Johnnies) in the "Work To Do" category. Villanova the only "Lock" Creighton & Xavier under "Should Be In"

[URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2599/st-johns-red-storm[/URL]]St. John's Red Storm[/url]Mike Anderson's team had won six straight before falling 76-73 in overtime at Butler and dropping to 13-8 on the season. Even going into that game, St. John's carried a NET ranking that had risen only into the 60s. In other words, the Johnnies still have work to do in order to play their way off the "next four out" lists and into the field. [URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433156/posh-alexander[/URL]]Posh Alexander[/url] and [URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4592479/julian-champagnie[/URL]]Julian Champagnie[/url] form a dynamic combination on offense, but as a team, St. John's could benefit from more defensive boards. The Bulldogs recorded 13 offensive rebounds in their victory, and Anderson's men are pulling down a league-low 67% of opponents' missed shots in Big East play.

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

Regardless of our record, I think we should get in because with no Ivy representative, that league has to be represented by an equally esteemed and lauded insitution of higher education.

So why can't Saint John's University get their automatic bid. Ecco Angus. Educatio Christiana Animae Perfectio

So the Committee doesn't have a sense of humor is what you're saying?

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I don't see how seton hall should be clearly ahead of us right now. That return game might be the biggest game of the season. 

 

[otis]

I don't see how seton hall should be clearly ahead of us right now. That return game might be the biggest game of the season. 

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The "biggest game of the season" occurs next Tuesday against Xavier.

A loss against Xavier renders the Seton Hall game a whole lost less important.

Please, one game at a time.

 

[ADORAZ]

The only good thing I can say about that awful Butler game is that we lost in OT (capped at 1 point), so our NET wasn't hurt that much. 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I don't see how seton hall should be clearly ahead of us right now. That return game might be the biggest game of the season. 

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The "biggest game of the season" occurs next Tuesday against Xavier.

A loss against Xavier renders the Seton Hall game a whole lost less important.

Please, one game at a time.

We are not on the team

 

[beast of the east]

I don't see how seton hall should be clearly ahead of us right now. That return game might be the biggest game of the season. 

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The "biggest game of the season" occurs next Tuesday against Xavier.

A loss against Xavier renders the Seton Hall game a whole lost less important.

Please, one game at a time.

Our kids are looking forward to the Xavier game, upset that they didn't beat them the first time.   They are ready for the challenge.

 

[paultzman]

Reasonable and challenging imo;

With UConn unlikely to be played, leaves St. John's with five league games left. I think they need to win two of Xavier, Nova and Seton Hall to make tourney. #sjubb

Zach B

 

[paultzman]

https://twitter.com/nypost_brazille/status/1361706393728913418?s=21

 

[NCJohnnie]

Paultzman wrote: 
Reasonable and challenging imo;

With UConn unlikely to be played, leaves St. John's with five league games left. I think they need to win two of Xavier, Nova and Seton Hall to make tourney. #sjubb

Zach B

Don't necessarily agree that is only way we get in, but do agree winning 2 of those 3 and either Depaul or PC would make it pretty hard to keep us out.   Also think tpnight's game is the least challenging of those 3 challenging games, so while no one game is a must win at this point, if we don't win tonight I'll be looking at us as a real long shot to dance.   

 

[beast of the east]

Not playing UCONN may turn out to be not such a bad thing if Bouknight comes back playing reasonably well by the time we would have drawn them.

Winning 3 out of our last 5 puts us on the bubble, on either the right or wrong side of it depending on who those 3 wins are against.   Anything less is likely not good enough.

 

[Mullins Revenge]

A win tonight puts us back in the field of 68.  Lets do it!!!!!!!!!

 

[MakingPlays]

We are maxed out on OOC games as far as I am aware. Only game we could add is UCONN which is probably best left alone at this point. Win 3 of last 5 and a game in BE tourney and we are solidly on the bubble imho. Win 4 remaining home games (Xavier, Depaul, PC & Hall) and we are in. 

Where does it say there's a max of OOC games?  I seen Zach say that a while back on twitter they were limited to 7 OOC games, but I've seen other teams add more than 7 OOC games.  I also read the article that describes the the format for this season on scheduling, and it didn't specify any OOC limit.  The only way it's limited is if they Big East conference is specficially limiting the OOC games, but I haven't seen any evidence of that.

 

 

[mm52]

We are maxed out on OOC games as far as I am aware. Only game we could add is UCONN which is probably best left alone at this point. Win 3 of last 5 and a game in BE tourney and we are solidly on the bubble imho. Win 4 remaining home games (Xavier, Depaul, PC & Hall) and we are in. 

Where does it say there's a max of OOC games?  I seen Zach say that a while back on twitter they were limited to 7 OOC games, but I've seen other teams add more than 7 OOC games.  I also read the article that describes the the format for this season on scheduling, and it didn't specify any OOC limit.  The only way it's limited is if they Big East conference is specficially limiting the OOC games, but I haven't seen any evidence of that.


 

I think it has something to do with 27 games being the maximum number a school may play.   So here in the BE, with 20 conference games, a BE team can play a maximum number of 7 OOC games.

 

[QueensBall]

Not playing UCONN may turn out to be not such a bad thing if Bouknight comes back playing reasonably well by the time we would have drawn them.

Winning 3 out of our last 5 puts us on the bubble, on either the right or wrong side of it depending on who those 3 wins are against.   Anything less is likely not good enough.

My hope is the team takes care of business these last 5 games and then meets UConn with Bouknight somwhere in the BET. UConn fans seem pretty insistent the only reason they haven't dominated the league is Bouknight's injury and at this point in the season I think if St. John's is playing well they absolutely can beat that team which would just be a wonderful way to close out their return season to the Big East after having already beaten them in their own building.

 

[MakingPlays]

We are maxed out on OOC games as far as I am aware. Only game we could add is UCONN which is probably best left alone at this point. Win 3 of last 5 and a game in BE tourney and we are solidly on the bubble imho. Win 4 remaining home games (Xavier, Depaul, PC & Hall) and we are in. 

Where does it say there's a max of OOC games?  I seen Zach say that a while back on twitter they were limited to 7 OOC games, but I've seen other teams add more than 7 OOC games.  I also read the article that describes the the format for this season on scheduling, and it didn't specify any OOC limit.  The only way it's limited is if they Big East conference is specficially limiting the OOC games, but I haven't seen any evidence of that.



 

I think it has something to do with 27 games being the maximum number a school may play.   So here in the BE, with 20 conference games, a BE team can play a maximum number of 7 OOC games.

That's correct, so if a team isn't allowed the 20 conference games, and is only has 19, they should be able to add another OOC game to get them to the 27 maximum games.

 

[Knight]

Why force a game into the stretrch run?  

 

[beast of the east]

We are maxed out on OOC games as far as I am aware. Only game we could add is UCONN which is probably best left alone at this point. Win 3 of last 5 and a game in BE tourney and we are solidly on the bubble imho. Win 4 remaining home games (Xavier, Depaul, PC & Hall) and we are in. 

Where does it say there's a max of OOC games?  I seen Zach say that a while back on twitter they were limited to 7 OOC games, but I've seen other teams add more than 7 OOC games.  I also read the article that describes the the format for this season on scheduling, and it didn't specify any OOC limit.  The only way it's limited is if they Big East conference is specficially limiting the OOC games, but I haven't seen any evidence of that.




 

I think it has something to do with 27 games being the maximum number a school may play.   So here in the BE, with 20 conference games, a BE team can play a maximum number of 7 OOC games.

That's correct, so if a team isn't allowed the 20 conference games, and is only has 19, they should be able to add another OOC game to get them to the 27 maximum games.I don'

I guess if we really needed  quality win as the difference between making the tournament or not we could find a good game, but I don't see that happening with the BET having the potential to provide that.

 

[Mullins Revenge]

The committe is going to give Uconn the benefit of the doubt and elevate Uconn now that bouknight is back.

It is important that we stay ahead of these guys.