BRACKETOLOGY, RPI, SOS

Can someone explain to me what the RPI actually means? I say that a bit tongue in cheek but my reasons for asking have to do with some of the teams that have "better" RPIs than we do. Our current RPI (according to CBS Sports) is 57. I took a glance at some of the teams that were above us and there were some that just made my jaw drop. Can someone explain to me how the following teams listed below, along with their schedules have a higher RPI than us:

North Dakota State - RPI 38, Schedule includes: Viterbo, Western Michigan, Valley City State, Rider, Bryant, Utah Valley University, Mayville State, IPFW, IUPI, Nebraska-Omaha, South Dakota & Denver. They played Ohio St but lost to them & beat Notre Dame but is that really a good win this year?

Southern Mississippi - RPI 35. Schedule includes Houston Baptist, William Carey, St. Catharine, South Alabama, UTSA, FIU, Florida Atlantic, Jackson State, North Dakota State (yes the same one with a 38 RPI). They played Louisville and got crushed and beat DePaul but is that really a good win this year? It's certainly is a bad loss for us.

Toledo - RPI 36. Schedule includes Northwestern Ohio, Florida A&M, Florida Atlantic, Sam Houston St., Buffalo, Coppin St, Akron, Arkansas State, Stony Brook, Ball St & Bowling Green. They played Kansas but lost to them & beat BC but is that really a good win this year?

I just don't understand how these schools have such better RPIs than we do? Granted we played Monmouth, Wagner, Longwood, Youngstown St & Columbia, but seriously, William Carey, Northwestern Ohio, Viterbo? Is there that much of a difference?[/quote

In short those teams have lost 6, 5 and 5 games respectively. Something that really helps your RPI? Not losing.
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Maybe it's just me but I felt that all year everytime we won a game our RPI only moved up 1 but every time we lost we moved down 10.
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Hahaha yeah. Usually the RPI is our best friend...it was early this year too. Losing @ Depual and home against Providence was lilke a 30 spot swing for us. Just devestating.
 
Its a crude measure of strength of schedule. It measures just wins and losses. I've heard that there are different weightings for home, road and neutral games but I don't know what they are. 25% is your winning %, 50 % is the winning % of your opponents and the final 25% is the winning % of the opponents of your opponents. So, how many games did you win, who did you play and who do they play. Margin of victory does not matter.

the bad part is: due to the binary nature of the system...beating Stony Brook means more than beating Marquette this year.
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1.4% for a road win, .6% for a home loss. Multiply that by the opponents RPI. Don't lose at home...win on the road or neutral court. The RPI is usually our biggest frind due to our neutral court wins from variousl tournmaents but we crapped the bed early.
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I'm assuming you meant 1.4 for a road win and 0.6 for a home win. Is that correct?

Two more questions:
1. Does it work the opposite for losses? 1.4 for a home loss and 0.6 for a road loss? Or, is it just an across the board weighting system?

2. Is this applied to the entire formula? Or just to certain parts?

Thanks in advance.
 
Check out Havard, who is at 51.

Not one win against a team with RPI 1-50. We have 1.

Just 2 wins vs. RPI 51-100. We have 5.

Worst losses are to a 263 and a 148. Our worst losses are vs. 105 and 157.

Their SOS is 241. Ours is 52.

Yet they are several slots higher than we are. Yes, I would saw it is a flawed evaluation.
 
Don't know if anyone is following any of these finals, but if Delaware loses here, they're not getting an at large bid, right?

Also, the loser of Manhattan/Iona is not getting an at large either, right?
 
Don't know if anyone is following any of these finals, but if Delaware loses here, they're not getting an at large bid, right?

Also, the loser of Manhattan/Iona is not getting an at large either, right?
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No and No.
 
A lot of the bubble teams get a huge break. If you look at the 8 teams right on the edge in Lunardi's bracketology (last 4 in and first 4 out), 6 of these 8 teams will likely play each other this week. SJU-Providence, St.Joseph's-Dayton and Arkansas-Tennessee are all matched up. This gives all of these teams a lot of control of their own destiny...and likely let's the winners survive with a vastly less crowded bubble. I have to think the losers of these 3 games (or if Dayton or Arkansas fail to advance to these matchups) are out.
 
A lot of the bubble teams get a huge break. If you look at the 8 teams right on the edge in Lunardi's bracketology (last 4 in and first 4 out), 6 of these 8 teams will likely play each other this week. SJU-Providence, St.Joseph's-Dayton and Arkansas-Tennessee are all matched up. This gives all of these teams a lot of control of their own destiny...and likely let's the winners survive with a vastly less crowded bubble. I have to think the losers of these 3 games (or if Dayton or Arkansas fail to advance to these matchups) are out.
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Great! thanks for that info
 
BYU beat San Francisco in OT in the semi's of the WCC tournament. This would of been big if the Dons could of won obviously to strengthen our win over them but also to knock BYU off the bubble. Regardless, we have to take care of business and beat Providence
 
OOC strength of schedule needs to be better next year.

We already have Cuse at the Carrier Dome, but would like to play some Big 12 teams, considering that conference is so respected this year and all of the teams are young.
 
OOC strength of schedule needs to be better next year.

We already have Cuse at the Carrier Dome, but would like to play some Big 12 teams, considering that conference is so respected this year and all of the teams are young.
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I said this same thing and got flamed.

You get wins over teams that inflate your W/L record but actually damage your RPI and resume in the long run.

Lavin likes to call this a national program but we need to be playing national contenders on a consistent basis.

If he thinks it's hard trying to convince top teams to play at CA, then go on the road.

You'll have a senior-laden team who should be prepared to play road games.
 
OOC strength of schedule needs to be better next year.

We already have Cuse at the Carrier Dome, but would like to play some Big 12 teams, considering that conference is so respected this year and all of the teams are young.
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Kansas State, Minnesota and USC are all looking for games next year.

http://www.basketballtravelers.com/game-schedule-board/?e_type=1
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Ohio state
Arizona
USC
St. Louis
Oklahoma

We should be all over these.
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With Lavin's west coast roots i'd like to see a home and home with a team like USC or Arizona. I think the reason there weren't as many big name teams this year was caution from not knowing how league play would pan out
 
Isn't USC terrible this year? And St Louis graduates it's entire team next year. It's hard to know one year from the next. Getting into a better pre season tournament then the Barclays tournament that we lost to Penn State and beat Georgia Tech in would help. I think we should consider playing UCONN again.
 
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