BRACKETOLOGY, RPI, SOS

[austour]

@Title_BU: The Big East has passed the Pac 12 and is now the 3rd-rated conference in the country.http://t.co/aLqPamR4tB

1. Big 12
2. Big 10
3. Big East
4. PAC 12
5. ACC
6. SEC
7. AAC
8. A10
9. WCC
10. MWC

Boom!

I'm confused. The AAC appears to have five teams ranked in the top 20, no? How can they be ranked 7th, and ahead of the Big East, with 2 ranked teams?

Question: If we lose and Georgetown wins, where do we finish in the Big East? Do we have to play in on Wednesday if we finish as the 7 seed?

because the AAC also has Rutgers, USF, UCF and Temple who are absolutely terrible. Houston is pretty bad too. Outside of the top 5 teams that conference has nobody while we have 7 out of 10 teams fighting for an NCAA birth

Read somewhere that in almost 50 chances this year, a team in the bottom 5 of the AAC, has beaten a team in the top 5 only 4 times.

Thnk about that. It helps the top wrt ncaa tournament selections, because there are no bad losses there.

FWIW there's only 7 such instances in the BE. That is, bad losses to RPI 100+ teams in conference by teams in the top 100. Yes that's 75% more so in one hour I'd have traveled 30 more miles but it's still just 3 games. Just saying you also don't get bad losses when you don't play bad teams which is how it works in the BE.

The AAC advantage is you rack up artificial win totals. 10 wins guaranteed. Doesn't happen in BE which is why win totals as the barometer for getting into the dance is not all it's cracked up to be. Also makes me wonder if the AAC to p5 aren't a bit overrated, ranking or not.

BE's top 5 also have one more OOC win vs. the top 25 RPI than AAC. Including X over Cincy in the only head to head upset. That counts for something . . . maybe or not.

 

[redmaninalbany]

another note about making NCAAs w/3 more wins even w/out tournament championship...
if we need a clincher I would say it is Lavin himself. If there was any question at that point,
I think his former sports announcers and his reputation for handling good PR, and the NYC press
coverage enhanced by SJU's presence, all speak
to tipping things our way it we take three more.

 

[tom in salem]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

 

[MarkRedman]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

I NEVER want to see Georgetown win
Least of all, today!!
GO NOVA!!

 

[gman]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

I NEVER want to see Georgetown win
Least of all, today!!
GO NOVA!!

Would be better for the big east if gtown wins and we handle our business down the stretch. We need as many teams in the tourny as possible.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

I NEVER want to see Georgetown win
Least of all, today!!
GO NOVA!!

Would be better for the big east if gtown wins and we handle our business down the stretch. We need as many teams in the tourny as possible.

Id rather see Villanova get a #1 seed and GT not get in than see GT get in and get bounced in the round of 64 and Nova get a 2 seed.
Nova as a 1 seed gives just as much credibility to our conference as if GT got a bid....

 

[Moose]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

I NEVER want to see Georgetown win
Least of all, today!!
GO NOVA!!

Would be better for the big east if gtown wins and we handle our business down the stretch. We need as many teams in the tourny as possible.

True but not if it improves their chance and takes a spot away from us, no?

 

[SJUalum98]

Andrew Farco ‏@FarcoSJU 34m
@ESPNLunardi update. St. John's and Georgetown are next four out. If Georgetown beats Villanova they should jump St. John's no matter what.

I NEVER want to see Georgetown win
Least of all, today!!
GO NOVA!!

Would be better for the big east if gtown wins and we handle our business down the stretch. We need as many teams in the tourny as possible.

Let them earn it in the BE tourney.

We don't need Nova taking a loss on the last day of the regular season.

That's crazy logic.

 

[ras]

I'm more concerned w us making the tourney than the number of BE schools making the tourney. If the BE gets 5 in and we are not one of them . I would not be happy. Bad ending to first half ,we have to take care of business today.

 

[MBoutchatski]

we obviously root for gtown to lose....stop the nonsense.

 

[tom in salem]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

 

[Mean Gene]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

If we're not even in this grouping then I don't even know if two wins in the Big East Tournament will do it? We might have to win it anyway.

 

[sirvoo]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

If we're not even in this grouping then I don't even know if two wins in the Big East Tournament will do it? We might have to win it anyway.

Some of those teams will lose this weekend. Plus 2 wins means we beat Nova. That would seal it I absolutely guarantee 22-12 with a semi final win against Nova means we're a lock.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

If we're not even in this grouping then I don't even know if two wins in the Big East Tournament will do it? We might have to win it anyway.

A win over a bubble team in Providence or Xavier and a win over Villanova in our second game and we will not only be on the right side of the bubble, but we will be an NCAA tournament lock.

 

[88grad]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

Arkansas getting blown out at halftime to a sub-.500 Alabama team.
Nebraska has a tough one tomorrow against Wisconsin
Florida State hosts Syracuse tomorrow
Cal hosting Colorado later
Tennessee big over Missouri at halftime.

 

[redmen2014champs]

Would not shock me to be in Lunardi's last 4 in before we play our next game, with the right teams losing. If we win our first round game we will definitely be listed in his 68 but the critical thing about the second round game would be that a loss would possibly knock us back out. Win the first round, 40% chance we are in, second round 98% chance we are in.

 

[room112]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

If we're not even in this grouping then I don't even know if two wins in the Big East Tournament will do it? We might have to win it anyway.

It's not really surprising since today was more of a must win game and not a game that would really count as a "good win".

 

[redmen1969]

In the event that Providence loses tonight does anyone know what session we play in on Thursday?

Same question if Providence wins tonight.

 

[redmen2014champs]

Retweeted by Joe Lunardi
ESPNU ‏@ESPNU 55m
As of 3:30et @ESPNLunardi
LAST 4 IN
• Ark
• Tenn
• Dayton
• Nebraska

FIRST 4 OUT
• California
• Providence
• Minnesota
• FSU

If we're not even in this grouping then I don't even know if two wins in the Big East Tournament will do it? We might have to win it anyway.

It's not really surprising since today was more of a must win game and not a game that would really count as a "good win".

Of course it was a "must win" in the sense that lose and we are out but it was certainly a quality win that will improve our RPI. Any win against a top 75 team on the road is a "good win".

 

[redmen2014champs]

In the event that Providence loses tonight does anyone know what session we play in on Thursday?

Same question if Providence wins tonight.

SJU will play at 2:30 no matter what.