Big East Tourney

TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
Is there any data that supports this?

It reminds me of an old nfl saying that it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.  The data actually proves that false.  When you beat a team twice in a season, you win the 3rd game like 70% of the time.
 
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
We'll see... Seton Hall has lost 4 in a row.  They laid an egg in 2nd half, the questinon is will they be motivated in the BE tournament or have they packed it in?
 
Making Plays" post=423976 said:
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
We'll see... Seton Hall has lost 4 in a row.  They laid an egg in 2nd half, the questinon is will they be motivated in the BE tournament or have they packed it in?

" sorry Charlie "
they've won too much
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I too don't like playing a team two times in a row.  But more importantly we'll see if SH's Willard commits coaching negligence by failing to run his offense through his best player Mamu.   That said, CMA and staff have coached their asses off all year to minimize the impact of match-up problems for us and creating match-up problems for the other team to our quickness.  SH looked dispirited yesterday.  And let's hope Moore back in CMA's good graces.  
 
I don't mind playing Seton Hall as much because we might be playing them with Posh and Moore, so they will either be seeing a different team or not know what to prepare for. 
 
I think when healthy and playing well we are better than both X and the Hall so it's really just who would be better to beat in terms of resume. That's probably a wash too. So who would I rather beat? X is always a pain to deal with. Their style has bullied us for years. But screw them. we don't have to worry about them anymore. Seton Hall has enjoyed our time down nearly as much as theyre time up. Beating them 2x in a row to completely kill their season would feel good. And it might mean more than just that going forward. 
 
All things equal , I would prefer playing Xavier rather than the Hall again but , in the Touney you play who you play .  Nova is seriously wounded but , even short handed vs PC they didn't quit . The Slater kid missing the 2 free throws at the end was the game . Another Archidiacono will be their point .  Memo to CMA , stop Watching NASCAR while we are down 18-0 in the first 5 minutes .  Willard will come up with a new game plan , although last night he seemed resigned to their nit being able to stop the Bleeding .  Expect to see a Mamu getting the Ball a lot more and shooting more 3's .   That could be trouble if he goes for 30 , like he did in Game 1 . Another thing  , the Rims at MSG have often proven difficult for us , arrange for a couple of Practices there if you can , in between the Rangers and Knicks games . And , the Garden floor is always slick and slippery , have the guys wear new Shoes with plenty of grip .  Go Johnnies . 
 
I thought part of Mamu's lack of success was our defense on him.  We didn't double hard until he got closer to the paint.  Wusu got a lot of time on him because he's strong but all took turns.  We have to rotate a bit better to their ball rotation but overall did well.  I also thought our intermittent zones caused issues for them.  It's hard for Willard to game-plan for that and I hope we continue to keep them on their toes shifting our defense a bit at times.  
 
Duke of Earlington" post=423975 said:
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
Is there any data that supports this?

It reminds me of an old nfl saying that it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.  The data actually proves that false.  When you beat a team twice in a season, you win the 3rd game like 70% of the time.
do you have that NFL data ?
in college hoops id think it happens a lot more frequently than the NFL
 
qcredman" post=424022 said:
What’s the “dog house” story on Moore?
I like the way he plays.

He took two bad shots early in the possession and CMA yanked him.
 
When questioned about Moore's absence, CMA replied that it was a coaching decision.  When asked if it were disciplinary, CMA replied "it was a coaching decision.
 
Moose" post=424017 said:
Duke of Earlington" post=423975 said:
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
Is there any data that supports this?

It reminds me of an old nfl saying that it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.  The data actually proves that false.  When you beat a team twice in a season, you win the 3rd game like 70% of the time.
do you have that NFL data ?
in college hoops id think it happens a lot more frequently than the NFL
Via ESPN.com, since the 1970 merger, 20 teams have had to face a divisional opponent in the playoffs after beating them twice in the regular season. Thirteen of those teams won the third matchup (65 percent).
 
Regarding Moore , we don't need to worry about who is running the Ship here . CMA totally in command .  Losing Moore put a hole in the Offense for a while but , other guys stepped up . If this going to be a Love me or , leave me situation . Moore is from Columbia , SC . Frank Martin is in trouble at SC , they went 6-14 . Columbia is where the University is . Clemson on the other. hand had a pretty good year . Not wishing Moore to leave but , maybe CMA has had enough .  Hope it's all sorted out by Thursday . 
 
MCNPA" post=424015 said:
I thought part of Mamu's lack of success was our defense on him.  We didn't double hard until he got closer to the paint.  Wusu got a lot of time on him because he's strong but all took turns.  We have to rotate a bit better to their ball rotation but overall did well.  I also thought our intermittent zones caused issues for them.  It's hard for Willard to game-plan for that and I hope we continue to keep them on their toes shifting our defense a bit at times.  
Agree, and it made me think of boxing, where some fighters work inside to negate an opponent's reach advantage.  Thought our quicker defenders positioned themselves at Mamu's chest so that he could not get in to his offensive repertoire with any comfort.
 
fuchsia" post=424109 said:
MCNPA" post=424015 said:
I thought part of Mamu's lack of success was our defense on him.  We didn't double hard until he got closer to the paint.  Wusu got a lot of time on him because he's strong but all took turns.  We have to rotate a bit better to their ball rotation but overall did well.  I also thought our intermittent zones caused issues for them.  It's hard for Willard to game-plan for that and I hope we continue to keep them on their toes shifting our defense a bit at times.  
Agree, and it made me think of boxing, where some fighters work inside to negate an opponent's reach advantage.  Thought our quicker defenders positioned themselves at Mamu's chest so that he could not get in to his offensive repertoire with any comfort.

Mamu gets flustered.  We kept him out of his comfort zone which is either gunning from 3, penetrating and coming off screens for dunks under the basket. Agree, got into his body a bit and didn't let him get too comfortable.
 
Knight" post=424024 said:
When questioned about Moore's absence, CMA replied that it was a coaching decision.  When asked if it were disciplinary, CMA replied "it was a coaching decision.
Also, if you listen closely he said, "We had some other guys that were ready to play." Meaning that Moore came in and wasn't playing the right way and was trying to play hero ball.

However, I will say, there's other guys like Dunn and Earlington that take ill-advised shots and start to play hero ball as well, but they don't get pulled for the entire game.  My best guess is those other guys when they do it they acknowledge the mistake when coach gets on to them about it, Moore is an emotional guy, he may not deal with the coaching critcism as well and CMA ain't playing that.
 
Duke of Earlington" post=424027 said:
Moose" post=424017 said:
Duke of Earlington" post=423975 said:
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
Is there any data that supports this?

It reminds me of an old nfl saying that it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.  The data actually proves that false.  When you beat a team twice in a season, you win the 3rd game like 70% of the time.
do you have that NFL data ?
in college hoops id think it happens a lot more frequently than the NFL
Via ESPN.com, since the 1970 merger, 20 teams have had to face a divisional opponent in the playoffs after beating them twice in the regular season. Thirteen of those teams won the third matchup (65 percent).

Thank you.
As expected it was a pretty low number.  And not surprising since often the team who won twice is likely much better than the wildcard team.  I'm willing to think it happens a lot more in college hoops.  
 
Moose" post=424125 said:
Duke of Earlington" post=424027 said:
Moose" post=424017 said:
Duke of Earlington" post=423975 said:
TheArtest15" post=423973 said:
Only thing I don't like about playing Seton Hall again is that it is so tough to beat a team 2 times back to back. But we shall see
Is there any data that supports this?

It reminds me of an old nfl saying that it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.  The data actually proves that false.  When you beat a team twice in a season, you win the 3rd game like 70% of the time.
do you have that NFL data ?
in college hoops id think it happens a lot more frequently than the NFL
Via ESPN.com, since the 1970 merger, 20 teams have had to face a divisional opponent in the playoffs after beating them twice in the regular season. Thirteen of those teams won the third matchup (65 percent).

Thank you.
As expected it was a pretty low number.  And not surprising since often the team who won twice is likely much better than the wildcard team.  I'm willing to think it happens a lot more in college hoops.  
Especially in college hoops when teams are a lot closer in talent level
 
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