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MakingPlays said:
Now that the non-conference is over for every team in the BE, what's everyone's thoughts on the BE and how teams have performed, is the conference, better, worse, or about where you thought it would be?

Me personally, I think it's a bit overreaction to the BE, I think it's underperformed a little, but for the most part it's where I thought it would be just the order I thought it would be in is different.

Most people probably thought Big East was a 4-7 bid league heading into the season with Creighton, Xavier, Nova, and UConn being the guaranteed tournament teams, with Providence, St. John's, and Seton Hall being bubble teams. Marq and Butler in rebuild mode, and Georgetown and DePaul being really bad as usual.

And with the non-conference finished it turned out that UConn, Xavier, and Marquette, are the guaranteed tournament teams, with St. John's, Providence, Creighton, and Butler being bubble teams. Nova and Seton Hall adjusting to new coaching, and DePaul and Georgetown never disappointing and being who the are.

So, instead of probably being a 4-7 bid league this year, it's probably more of a 4-6 bid league this year. I like St. John's position a lot, they control their own destiny, they just need a couple signature wins in conference, probably need to win 2 out of the 6 games against UConn, Marq, and Xavier. And avoid bad losses (DePaul and Georgetown) and be around the .500conference record mark and they are most likely dancing.
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Making Plays, I disagree with the around .500 in conference gets us in. I think we need 12 wins in conference to guarantee us a bid regardless of what happens in the BE Tournament. Every loss above 8 in conference it’s a game we have to win in the BE Tournament to make up for it. If we go 10-10 in conference, I think we need two wins in the BE Tournament to get a bid.
 
Mean Gene said:
Making Plays, I disagree with the around .500 in conference gets us in. I think we need 12 wins in conference to guarantee us a bid regardless of what happens in the BE Tournament. Every loss above 8 in conference it’s a game we have to win in the BE Tournament to make up for it. If we go 10-10 in conference, I think we need two wins in the BE Tournament to get a bid.
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There's no set number of wins you have to get to qualify for the tournament, that's a common misconception people have, they always put a strict number it takes to get into the tournament, but that's not how it works, it's the quality of wins and the lack of bad losses is what gets you in. That's why I put a hypothetical scenario and said around the .500 mark (that could range from 9-11) in conference would get them in the tournament.

And in my scenario, that's with the assumption that there won't be much change in the NET in our conference opponents, and none of our non-conference opponents we beat improve their NET and they all stay as Q3/Q4 wins. Obviously, it won't play out like that. The season isn't even at the half-way point yet, we don't what anyone's final NET is going to be so it's WAY to premature to say they have to get X number of wins no matter what to make the tournament.
 
MakingPlays said:
There's no set number of wins you have to get to qualify for the tournament, that's a common misconception people have, they always put a strict number it takes to get into the tournament, but that's not how it works, it's the quality of wins and the lack of bad losses is what gets you in. That's why I put a hypothetical scenario and said around the .500 mark (that could range from 9-11) in conference would get them in the tournament.

And in my scenario, that's with the assumption that there won't be much change in the NET in our conference opponents, and none of our non-conference opponents we beat improve their NET and they all stay as Q3/Q4 wins. Obviously, it won't play out like that. The season isn't even at the half-way point yet, we don't what anyone's final NET is going to be so it's WAY to premature to say they have to get X number of wins no matter what to make the tournament.
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If I am not mistaken every BE team with 20 wins in the NET era has gotten in
 
Mighty have fallen, after John Thompson every coach there has had their struggles. JT was a Legend like Looie, Boeheim, Wright, it will be interesting to watch the Wright-less Villanova to see how they fare. And eventually the Orange after Jimmy B finally hangs it up.
 
GTown vs UConn showing why most every BE game will be a war. I bet Lavin wished that Joey Calcatera had stayed at San Diego. Man that kid can play, what a spark he gave UConn.
 
Gtown/UConn and Duke/Wake are good reminders there are no easy wins, especially on the road, in conference play. But I sure want that road W tomorrow at Nova
 
Georgetown is the only team in the country that can have a lead with 10 minutes left to go in the game and I still fully expect them to lose by 20+ points. This game is trending that way...
 
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