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I think Creighton is not going to make it in the end. They are beginning to fade a little and it is only natural. This is basically a market correction considering they literally replaced their top 6 scorers from last year and lost a surefire NBA first rounder and highest recruit ever in TyTy Washington to Kentucky and yet still are pretty good. But they seemed to have hit a wall playing a lot of freshmen and new faces.
PC has won a TON of close games. Deservedly so btw. And there are two ways to look at it: 1)This will serve them well at Tourney time as the Tourney will inevitably lead to close games and 2)They are bit lucky and at some point maybe in a 4/13 or 5/12 game they get picked off late.
Paultzman post=456582
May be heresy here, but as competitive the Big East is I really don’t see any team doing damage in the Dance. Flag Ship Nova to me is well coached team, but lacks depth and does not have usual talent level to make a run. Providence is having great season, but never does much in Dance, but perhaps their depth, solid big and good guard cadre can get them to a Sweet 16. Net of that I just don’t see a team to keep an eye on in NCAA T.
PC has won a TON of close games. Deservedly so btw. And there are two ways to look at it: 1)This will serve them well at Tourney time as the Tourney will inevitably lead to close games and 2)They are bit lucky and at some point maybe in a 4/13 or 5/12 game they get picked off late.
Paultzman post=456582
May be heresy here, but as competitive the Big East is I really don’t see any team doing damage in the Dance. Flag Ship Nova to me is well coached team, but lacks depth and does not have usual talent level to make a run. Providence is having great season, but never does much in Dance, but perhaps their depth, solid big and good guard cadre can get them to a Sweet 16. Net of that I just don’t see a team to keep an eye on in NCAA T.
Careful, the conference usually holds its own and typically over performs in the tourney.
Can sju split with xavier and Marquette, and lose only one of the remaining games with uconn, butler, Creighton and de paul? If so, they can finish .500 in the BE. If CMA is right that they're starting to play their best and if champ and posh get healthy, then why not?
If Chris Mullin and Patrick Ewing did not totally kill the idea of hiring a former star player with no HC experience as your new Head Coach at the alma mater then they did serious damage to the idea.
I don't count people like Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer in that category because they were not the same caliber of player that Mullin and Ewing were and more importantly they were on the prior staff as assistants. Neither Mullin nor Ewing were ever staff members at SJU or Georgetown before being hired as HC's.
I don't count people like Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer in that category because they were not the same caliber of player that Mullin and Ewing were and more importantly they were on the prior staff as assistants. Neither Mullin nor Ewing were ever staff members at SJU or Georgetown before being hired as HC's.
I specifically didn't mention Clyde because he came before Fred Hoiberg and what Hoiberg did at Iowa St may have sort of cancelled Clyde out. Mullin and Ewing literally happened back to back at rival programs in the same conference where they starred in the same exact era of that conference.
But good point on Hardaway. In many ways he is the worst he had a built in pipeline to the best HS talent in the country, lands them and still can't win in a mediocre conference.
SJU85 post=456771
you can add Clyde Drexler to that list and possibly the way things are trending, Penny Hardaway.
But good point on Hardaway. In many ways he is the worst he had a built in pipeline to the best HS talent in the country, lands them and still can't win in a mediocre conference.
SJU85 post=456771
you can add Clyde Drexler to that list and possibly the way things are trending, Penny Hardaway.
Two BE players on the Naismith list, Collin Gillespie and Justin Lewis:
https://twitter.com/NaismithTrophy/status/1491819898170916866/photo/2
https://twitter.com/NaismithTrophy/status/1491819898170916866/photo/2
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fordham96 post=456873 said:
Yes he is a good coach and has done a great job in his first year at Marquette with nine players not on the team last year and an entire roster of new players to him,yada yada. But it has not yet been a whole season yet. There have been coaches before who have had great first seasons at a new school or a school where they were elevated from an assistants role but it not working out afterwards. Lets give him credit for what he is doing and he does have the potential of continuing to do it but I am not ready to say he has done the job of turning the program around for the long haul just yet.Jermane Attoil post=456877 said:
NCJohnnie post=456893 said: