Didn’t say they should. It was in response to a comment that KenPom rated the Big East 2nd best in the country.
Ackerman should be fired
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I never picked on Ackerman’s looks or gender. I picked on her incompetence. We wouldn’t care if Ackerman was an armless, three-legged cyclops.
Getting lower conference teams to join bigger conferences is not that difficult. Neither is getting a good TV deal when you have the BE tournament at the Garden as a card to play during negotiations.
Leadership is required when your business/team is screwed. Need to step up. At the the very least show yourself, don’t become muted.
Sorry, I am not getting on you. Just very frustrated that Ackerman came up small when she was needed, which will hurt the BE moving forward.
Joe Schmoe
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The damage to the league's 3 bid performance should not be understated.
National exposure won't be there, which negatively impacts enrollment, advertising, media contracts.
Do portal athletes want to play in a three team conference?
Do high school athletes want to play in a three team conference?
Do NIL monies get reduced as would be donors seek better uses for their money?
Was the three bid performance orchestrated by other conferences so as to enhance their finances at the expense of the Big East? We can see that the major football conferneces are looking to eliminate the ACC as a major football conference.
National exposure won't be there, which negatively impacts enrollment, advertising, media contracts.
Do portal athletes want to play in a three team conference?
Do high school athletes want to play in a three team conference?
Do NIL monies get reduced as would be donors seek better uses for their money?
Was the three bid performance orchestrated by other conferences so as to enhance their finances at the expense of the Big East? We can see that the major football conferneces are looking to eliminate the ACC as a major football conference.
Cannot agree more with those criticizing her big time for the bunker mentality, for not getting in front of the cameras immediately. In this strange new world we live in, maybe she knew all along what was going to transpire.
With leaks becoming the norm, that is quite possible. And if it is, then Ackerman is even worse than previously thought.
If there were leaks acknowledging the conference was getting screwed, then there was even less of an excuse to be ill prepared.
This thread seems very reactionary, looking for someone to blame. To believe that a conference commissioner who is not on the selection committee would be able to sway the outcome of the picks seems like wishful thinking at best. At worst it almost sounds unethical.
In any case, I literally have no idea what Ackerman does or does not do. All I know is that the Big East appears to be as strong as it's been since the breakaway occured, which to me is the most important thing.
In any case, I literally have no idea what Ackerman does or does not do. All I know is that the Big East appears to be as strong as it's been since the breakaway occured, which to me is the most important thing.
I personally am less worried about the latter three to on your list to different extents as it might piss off donors enough to make them dig deeper. High School Athletes have short memories and quite frankly, unless you are the crème of the crème, have been devalued somewhat due to the portal. Portal athletes might have a higher level of concern but I think it will come down to the programs and the NIL more than the conference.
The first point though is huge as our media rights deal is ending (2025 IIRC) and our negotiation strength has taken a huge hit. Then if you add the exposure on how it could effect the other three items you mentioned (again less worried especially in the immediate term but if this were to occur again next year, that’s a whole different ballgame), then the potential damage is even larger.
classof2010
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our team nor seton hall was shown on cbs. I mean no team viewing so Something was up. Maybe I should not attack her appearance or pronouns. This conference has had 3 national champions since it’s reformed 10 yrs ago. We get 3 teams and now we have to practically root for Uconn which makes me nauseous. She dropped the ball, shouldn’t be commissioner!
I don’t recall any team that were supposedly on the bubble including the last four in on the show yesterday and while I didn‘t it last year (wish I hadn’t this year) I don't recall that happening in any previous years.
Unethical to try to sway picks? This happens all the time, in front of and behind the cameras. Especially with footage and basketball since that is where the majority of the money is found.
You don’t think the ACC made a few calls which moved the needle for unworthy teams getting selected?
This is not a reactionary exercise in the blame game. It is a reaction to the leader of the BE being nowhere to be found after it was screwed out of bids, which have monetary implications.
Some of the defense of Ackerman is astounding.
MarkRedman
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What happened to looking at a team's last ten games as an important deciding factor in making at large picks?
Pitino put a brand new team together this year that needed time to gel
Yes, we lost some games that we should have won but what team hasn't?
But nobody can deny that we got better and better as the season wore on and became a very formidable team
We would have been a very tough opponent for anyone in the tournament
I wonder where we were slotted in this process - not even in the first four out?
We are the Rodney Dangerfield of college basketball - we get no respect. No respect at all!!!
Pitino put a brand new team together this year that needed time to gel
Yes, we lost some games that we should have won but what team hasn't?
But nobody can deny that we got better and better as the season wore on and became a very formidable team
We would have been a very tough opponent for anyone in the tournament
I wonder where we were slotted in this process - not even in the first four out?
We are the Rodney Dangerfield of college basketball - we get no respect. No respect at all!!!
Larry Wright
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To me, the craziest/ scariest thing is from what I have read/ heard, if we had beaten UCONN and lost BET title game, still wouldn’t have gotten in.
Seems the committee had their teams set and could only play in if won conference tournaments.
Seems the committee had their teams set and could only play in if won conference tournaments.
Seems almost impossible to view the BE and MWC the way they did. Unfortunately it was happening all year and we didn’t seem to notice.
BE: 6 team look
If they view our top 3 as three top ten teams, then considering our next 3 (13-7, 11-9, 10-10 and all 20 wins) as not worthy of making it or even being considered seems hypocritical.
MW: 6 team look
None of their top 3 sniff the level or the BE top 3 (by their own standard) but the bottom 2 (Boise 22-10, Col St. 24-10) somehow get lifted up by their affiliation? Colorado state when 10-8 in conference! They also get to say New Mexico wouldn’t have made it if they hadn’t won. Easy out. Should have took one of their spots with it.
If the BE bubble teams were instead 11-9, 10-10, and 9-11 in BE play I would completely understand them being this far away. But on one end to give the BE so much respect and on the other end spit in their faces makes no sense.
BE: 6 team look
If they view our top 3 as three top ten teams, then considering our next 3 (13-7, 11-9, 10-10 and all 20 wins) as not worthy of making it or even being considered seems hypocritical.
MW: 6 team look
None of their top 3 sniff the level or the BE top 3 (by their own standard) but the bottom 2 (Boise 22-10, Col St. 24-10) somehow get lifted up by their affiliation? Colorado state when 10-8 in conference! They also get to say New Mexico wouldn’t have made it if they hadn’t won. Easy out. Should have took one of their spots with it.
If the BE bubble teams were instead 11-9, 10-10, and 9-11 in BE play I would completely understand them being this far away. But on one end to give the BE so much respect and on the other end spit in their faces makes no sense.
And no strategy is ever implemented for the first time? What relevancy does it not happening in the past have to what was done this year? You are completely skirting around the fact that the application of negative criteria could also be applied to many of the bubble teams selected but very coincidentally was only applied to the BE teams. The Virginia explanation was an insult ( just an out and out fabrication really) since it flew in the face of the actual numbers, numbers a 5th grader could have interpreted correctly.
Well the Big East has national championship coach Dan Hurley in front of the camera advocating for Big East teams to get in and that did nothing.
Your second point is total speculation. And even if they did, who is to say that was a deciding factor?
My point is there is no factual evidence that she could have done anything to change the outcome. If there is any factual evidence please send me it.
classof2010
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1. Having a the coach of the national champions comment is not a big deal. That is standard. Using your argument, couldn’t that be considered trying to sway the committee?
2. A conference commissioner must speak up. Yes, a part of the job is to lobby on behalf of it, especially when the outcome affects your business negatively. This is true regardless of how much it will change the outcome, if at all. The ACC commissioner went to bat for Florida State when the selection committee was picking the college football playoffs.
3. It is not so much about factual evidence in the present, as it can have lingering negative effects. If the BE just quietly takes this, the committee (and the public at large) can look at it as the committee got it right. The politicking does not have to bring an immediate victory. It can be used as the foundation to future success.