a lot of endlessly repetitive chatter

[quote="RedStormNC" post=294229]I can't imagine what a frenzy it will be if Mullin has a great years 4-6, gets interest of HS kids, then retires. By year 5, with only 1 year left on contract and no talk of renewal, it will be a lame duck position.[/quote]

Beast and ‘72 disagree on whether Mullin is in for 6 years in total max or longer. I’ve got no clue. I don’t recall Mullin putting a ‘term-limit’ on his job. Maybe he did.
I do recall, talk about the possibility his family would move back east this coming year.
I hope that’s true but, again, don’t know.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=294230]Miss going to the Open. Used to go every year between 1994 and around 2004 but haven't been since. Saw Fed lose to Agassi before Fed was winning slams. I am planning two sports road trips next year, the BE tournament and the Open on Labor Day weekend.[/quote] If you come up next year for it let me know because we go every year plus I go for work.

I hate the new Arthur Ashe and Armstrong with the semi roofs It holds the heat in and makes it bake almost as bad as Carnesseca Arena. The good thing about Ashe was even on hot days you used to get nice breeze. That's gone now. Also in my opinion I guess on the good side is it also holds the noise in a lot more and makes it even louder especially in Armstrong
 
[quote="L J S A" post=294222]

Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Disagree. Most on here figured year 3 was NIT and by year 4 NCAAs with a couple of wins. Any reasonable thinking fan would know that year 2 was essentially year 1 of the rebuild, since year one was a patchwork job to get warm bodies on the floor. Anyway, we were 1 quitter away last year from easily a plus .500 record and an NIT, possibly an NCAA depending on the over/under of wins we'd have with Marcus. This year should really be 20 plus wins and NCAA with some noise if Heron is eligible. That's pretty damn good for a rebuild for a new coach whose never coached before. Secondly, why would there be a rebuild? We have quality players on board and they'll obviously bring in some more, especially with a successful season. The only thing I'll agree with and will have no problem admitting this Mullin thing was a failure is if we don't make the tourney this year with the talent and depth we have. Otherwise I'm confused as to how people expected more during a complete rebuild of a program. In professional sports where they have free agency and draft picks etc. it still takes teams years on a rebuild. Why would anyone expect anything different for a college program?
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=294236][quote="L J S A" post=294222]

Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Disagree. Most on here figured year 3 was NIT and by year 4 NCAAs with a couple of wins. Any reasonable thinking fan would know that year 2 was essentially year 1 of the rebuild, since year one was a patchwork job to get warm bodies on the floor. Anyway, we were 1 quitter away last year from easily a plus .500 record and an NIT, possibly an NCAA depending on the over/under of wins we'd have with Marcus. This year should really be 20 plus wins and NCAA with some noise if Heron is eligible. That's pretty damn good for a rebuild for a new coach whose never coached before. Secondly, why would there be a rebuild? We have quality players on board and they'll obviously bring in some more, especially with a successful season. The only thing I'll agree with and will have no problem admitting this Mullin thing was a failure is if we don't make the tourney this year with the talent and depth we have. Otherwise I'm confused as to how people expected more during a complete rebuild of a program. In professional sports where they have free agency and draft picks etc. it still takes teams years on a rebuild. Why would anyone expect anything different for a college program?[/quote]

I'm not talking about fans. I was talking about Mullin and the people who hired him. I think they all expected to be more successful.

And if we lose Ponds, Heron, and Simon along with Clark, it will be a major rebuild if we don't get players in here. Eli Wright hasn't proven that he can take a big leap, and Caraher is going to be a 6'5" PF for us and his PPG probably won't translate from low major to high major if past players are any example.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=294237][quote="rawdognyc" post=294236][quote="L J S A" post=294222]

Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Disagree. Most on here figured year 3 was NIT and by year 4 NCAAs with a couple of wins. Any reasonable thinking fan would know that year 2 was essentially year 1 of the rebuild, since year one was a patchwork job to get warm bodies on the floor. Anyway, we were 1 quitter away last year from easily a plus .500 record and an NIT, possibly an NCAA depending on the over/under of wins we'd have with Marcus. This year should really be 20 plus wins and NCAA with some noise if Heron is eligible. That's pretty damn good for a rebuild for a new coach whose never coached before. Secondly, why would there be a rebuild? We have quality players on board and they'll obviously bring in some more, especially with a successful season. The only thing I'll agree with and will have no problem admitting this Mullin thing was a failure is if we don't make the tourney this year with the talent and depth we have. Otherwise I'm confused as to how people expected more during a complete rebuild of a program. In professional sports where they have free agency and draft picks etc. it still takes teams years on a rebuild. Why would anyone expect anything different for a college program?[/quote]

I'm not talking about fans. I was talking about Mullin and the people who hired him. I think they all expected to be more successful.

And if we lose Ponds, Heron, and Simon along with Clark, it will be a major rebuild if we don't get players in here. Eli Wright hasn't proven that he can take a big leap, and Caraher is going to be a 6'5" PF for us and his PPG probably won't translate from low major to high major if past players are any example.[/quote]

Thank you for your response. I don't see Simon leaving after this year. Heron possibly depending on draft positioning. We'll see what Dixon and Keita bring to the table this year. It will be good for Williams and Roberts to get some minutes too... Obviously you're correct about Caraher and Wright. However I think we success, we can grab 1 or 2 late signing top 100 seniors. I really feel a couple of them are waiting to see how we do before they decide on a college. However, in my opinion, we still won't be in rebuild mode even losing Ponds, Clark and possibly a couple of others. I'm not some homer when it comes to Mullin though. If we aren't successful this year, I think major changes would need to take place. This team has talent and depth the likes in which we haven't seen since the Jarvis years.
 
Senior/ 2019 Grad: Marvin Clark II

Junior/ 2020 Grad: Shamorie Ponds, Justin Simon, Mustapha Heron

Sophomore/ 2021 Grad: Sedee Keita, Mikey Dixon, Bryan Trimble, Jr.

Freshman/ 2022 Grad: Greg Williams, Jr., Josh Roberts, Marcellus Earlington

Sitting out: David Caraher (sophomore in 2019-20, 2022 grad), Eli Wright (junior in 2019-20, 2021 grad)

I like the depth and the spacing out of the scholarships. Looking through the roster, Clark and most likely Ponds are gone. I think we may see an early winter Earlington departure. That thought is based off his father's tweeting.
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=294238]However I think we success, we can grab 1 or 2 late signing top 100 seniors.[/quote]

That's what I'm hoping. I definitely think we win enough to theoretically do so, but it's always tough jumping in late if it turns out to be non-local kids.
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=294239]Senior/ 2019 Grad: Marvin Clark II

Junior/ 2020 Grad: Shamorie Ponds, Justin Simon, Mustapha Heron

Sophomore/ 2021 Grad: Sedee Keita, Mikey Dixon, Bryan Trimble, Jr.

Freshman/ 2022 Grad: Greg Williams, Jr., Josh Roberts, Marcellus Earlington

Sitting out: David Caraher (sophomore in 2019-20, 2022 grad), Eli Wright (junior in 2019-20, 2021 grad)

I like the depth and the spacing out of the scholarships. Looking through the roster, Clark and most likely Ponds are gone. I think we may see an early winter Earlington departure. That thought is based off his father's tweeting.[/quote]

His father said he’s gonna have his son transfer before Christmas his freshmen year?
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=294238][quote="L J S A" post=294237][quote="rawdognyc" post=294236][quote="L J S A" post=294222]

[/quote]

Disagree. Most on here figured year 3 was NIT and by year 4 NCAAs with a couple of wins. Any reasonable thinking fan would know that year 2 was essentially year 1 of the rebuild, since year one was a patchwork job to get warm bodies on the floor. Anyway, we were 1 quitter away last year from easily a plus .500 record and an NIT, possibly an NCAA depending on the over/under of wins we'd have with Marcus. This year should really be 20 plus wins and NCAA with some noise if Heron is eligible. That's pretty damn good for a rebuild for a new coach whose never coached before. Secondly, why would there be a rebuild? We have quality players on board and they'll obviously bring in some more, especially with a successful season. The only thing I'll agree with and will have no problem admitting this Mullin thing was a failure is if we don't make the tourney this year with the talent and depth we have. Otherwise I'm confused as to how people expected more during a complete rebuild of a program. In professional sports where they have free agency and draft picks etc. it still takes teams years on a rebuild. Why would anyone expect anything different for a college program?[/quote]

I'm not talking about fans. I was talking about Mullin and the people who hired him. I think they all expected to be more successful.

And if we lose Ponds, Heron, and Simon along with Clark, it will be a major rebuild if we don't get players in here. Eli Wright hasn't proven that he can take a big leap, and Caraher is going to be a 6'5" PF for us and his PPG probably won't translate from low major to high major if past players are any example.[/quote]

Thank you for your response. I don't see Simon leaving after this year. Heron possibly depending on draft positioning. We'll see what Dixon and Keita bring to the table this year. It will be good for Williams and Roberts to get some minutes too... Obviously you're correct about Caraher and Wright. However I think we success, we can grab 1 or 2 late signing top 100 seniors. I really feel a couple of them are waiting to see how we do before they decide on a college. However, in my opinion, we still won't be in rebuild mode even losing Ponds, Clark and possibly a couple of others. I'm not some homer when it comes to Mullin though. If we aren't successful this year, I think major changes would need to take place. This team has talent and depth the likes in which we haven't seen since the Jarvis years.[/quote]
   You make some solid points. The year 1 doesn't count idea is silly to me but that's just my opinion. If we over achieved and won some more games I bet that year would of counted correct? It was what it was, a bad year with little talent, moving on. Year 2 was fine, 7-11 conference record was admirable with the talent we had.
   This past year to me was a disappointment. With LoVett there's no doubt in my mind we would of been an ncaa tournament team. Our OOC performance gave us a great chance to lock up a bid. Obviously LoVett bailed and you know the rest. Without ML a tourney bid was a long shot but the NIT should of been a guarantee in my eyes.
   Ponds, Simon, Ahmed, Clark, Owens, Trimble and Yakwe should of been a good enough 7 to make it happen. To me this is where the inexperience in coaching begins to show. If your going to win at SJU, a school that doesn't get top prospects on regular basis you absolutely have to be able to maximize your talent. This coming year if Heron plays we will get a bid to the big dance. How we earn that bid will say a lot about our staffs ability to coach.
   If we are a bubble team and barely make it in that would be considered under acheiving relative to our talent. A top 8 seed is what I would consider a successful year, maybe a little higher but i'll set the bar as low as possible for now. I agree with you after Ponds, Heron and Clark leave it shouldn't be a total rebuild, hopefully Simon doesn't leave, but even then. That leaves us with 9 or 10 guys returning: Simon, Figueroa, Dixon, Keita, Wright, Trimble, Caraher, Williams, Roberts and Earlington. That's solid talent in the big east but not anything special either; middle of the pack.
   Not enough to win on just having overwhelming talent, Mullin would need to be able to once again show he can get the most out of his roster to make the tournament. To me this upcoming season will show me everthing I need to know about Mullin and his ability to succeed here in the long (short?) term. Even with a good year I doubt 5 star recruits will come, so we need to see some coaching progress and ability to develop players. This year is important in so many ways. No pressure ;).
 
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[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=294243][quote="rawdognyc" post=294239]Senior/ 2019 Grad: Marvin Clark II

Junior/ 2020 Grad: Shamorie Ponds, Justin Simon, Mustapha Heron

Sophomore/ 2021 Grad: Sedee Keita, Mikey Dixon, Bryan Trimble, Jr.

Freshman/ 2022 Grad: Greg Williams, Jr., Josh Roberts, Marcellus Earlington

Sitting out: David Caraher (sophomore in 2019-20, 2022 grad), Eli Wright (junior in 2019-20, 2021 grad)

I like the depth and the spacing out of the scholarships. Looking through the roster, Clark and most likely Ponds are gone. I think we may see an early winter Earlington departure. That thought is based off his father's tweeting.[/quote]

His father said he’s gonna have his son transfer before Christmas his freshmen year?[/quote]

Just my opinion. Not trying to start a rumor or anything. Maybe he's here for 4 years for all I know :p
 
[quote="L J S A" post=294222][quote="Adam" post=294188]I know it's a rumor, but if that's true about Chris always having short term plans, and if SJU was aware, then that's a really dumb hire. I thought the whole point of hiring him was that he wouldn't leave for another college. Maybe even stay for a couple decades. How is retiring after 6 years or so helpful to the program? He's not exactly someone like MJ who could pull in 5 star recruits based on name alone, nor was he a coach at the time of the hiring. So.... why?? Even if he does well, that means hitting the reset button yet again. I don't even want to think about who they have planned to be his replacement...

Seems to me nostalgia overtook logic in his hiring decision. We need somebody dedicated to coaching. You can't do this job unless you're giving 110% effort and really want to build a legacy. That's why Matt is the best person on staff.[/quote]

He's a 50-something millionaire who lived in California for three decades prior to being hired. And he didn't seem to have much to do with the program before taking the job. There's no way it was ever going to be anything but a relatively short-term gig. But in defense of all parties involved, he's a hall of famer, and one of the top handful of shooters all time. Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- see Clyde Drexler -- but when it actually happened the excitement here was through the roof. Unfortunately, how diehard fans feel -- many of whom saw him play here in person -- is not how a bunch of 16-year-olds feel about him. Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Nice post and basically describes how I felt about hiring. The one thing I will never understand however is how quickly people started griping. And how they are still griping now before a season where we should be OK.
If we were A winning program I could understand this type of thinking. But fans on here a lot of them older turned quick. Again this program has outside of a couple outlier years sucked. Why continuously bash our version of Babe Ruth? Especially before a season where we should be pretty good.
I mean if Jimmy Chitwood came back to coach Hickory in his 50's after the school sucked for the past 25 years wouldn't they give him some kind of grace period? Of course they would.
Only ST John's fans who somehow think they are Yankee fans or Duke fans would act this way towards their GOAT.

I have learned the last 10 years or so to not expect anything from the program and just be happy when things are kind of ok. Because I watched Mullin play and actually saw us play a Final Four game he will always get a pass from me. And in fact when Mullin does leave I hope they hire Walter Berry. We won't be good anyway and that hire at least will prevent me from joining the irrational / ungrateful people on these boards!
 
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Thanks Dan V for your great response. When I throw out year 1, I throw it out in terms of being part of rebuilding the program. The guys we grabbed weren't what they were going to start building the program around. However you make a valid point about overachieving and how that would have been viewed.
I think the coaching staff did a good job Marcus left in keeping the team together and focused through some tough loses. They finished the season pretty strong. Just too little too late after digging such a big hole in January. To me though, it shows that this staff can do it.. they can get these players to win even though the odds were stacked against them. However no more excuses.. We will see how good this staff is this year with the depth and talent.
 
What this thread shows is that no matter what our team accomplished this season, the same negativity regarding Mullin & co. will persist at least until we are successful the following season. Already, even with Heron's transfer, that group has shifted focus on the 2018-19 season to the following one now that success this season seems much more of a possibility.

It's reasonable to be hungry for a successful program, but subjective satisfaction based on what has been accomplished so far is also reasonable.

What I think we should keep completely out of it is Mullin's family. Where part of his family lives is no one's business. In fact the only thing that matters is if we are able to build a winning program. If he wins, I don't care if he coaches from Siberia. If he doesn't, he will be gone soon enough.

The notion that Chris took this job as temporary is a load of garbage. I don't care what he is making - that's up to the school and him. To suggest that Mullin took this job for a few years and is lazy in his approach to his job is the same crap that was heaped upon Lavin (who by the way I defended on that basis also). At least people here aren't publicly rooting for him to lose, as they did in Robert's final season (I also posted against sentiment as much as I felt NR didn't have what it takes).

It takes extraordinary patience to root for SJU, and maybe there's a culture in NYC of Yankee fandom that expects if you spend tons of money you just have to win. No matter who we bring in here, winning is a difficult thing here. If history shows us anything, it's that rebuilding this program is far from an easy thing to do. The one thing I have been pretty certain about is that this is a guy who didn't take the job as a stepping stone, didn't take the money and run, didn't profess false love for the school, didn't claim he was a teacher when things went sour. This is a guy who wants to win because he has the same school pride as those of us who went here, moreso because he was the guy who led us to our only final four in the past 65 years.

I'm still betting on his getting us back to a national ranking and NCAA frequenter. The rest would involve luck and being able to upgrade recruiting, which mostly builds upon success. This year is an important year, not to save Mullin's hide, but to set a foundation of program success upon which to build a class program. Legacies are built in the tourney, not the regular season, and recruits know that.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=294222][quote="Adam" post=294188]I know it's a rumor, but if that's true about Chris always having short term plans, and if SJU was aware, then that's a really dumb hire. I thought the whole point of hiring him was that he wouldn't leave for another college. Maybe even stay for a couple decades. How is retiring after 6 years or so helpful to the program? He's not exactly someone like MJ who could pull in 5 star recruits based on name alone, nor was he a coach at the time of the hiring. So.... why?? Even if he does well, that means hitting the reset button yet again. I don't even want to think about who they have planned to be his replacement...

Seems to me nostalgia overtook logic in his hiring decision. We need somebody dedicated to coaching. You can't do this job unless you're giving 110% effort and really want to build a legacy. That's why Matt is the best person on staff.[/quote]

He's a 50-something millionaire who lived in California for three decades prior to being hired. And he didn't seem to have much to do with the program before taking the job. There's no way it was ever going to be anything but a relatively short-term gig. But in defense of all parties involved, he's a hall of famer, and one of the top handful of shooters all time. Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- see Clyde Drexler -- but when it actually happened the excitement here was through the roof. Unfortunately, how diehard fans feel -- many of whom saw him play here in person -- is not how a bunch of 16-year-olds feel about him. Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Good post. Seems like he was maybe pressured into it a bit. Yes I myself thought we'd be further ahead by now... and hindsight is 20/20. For the record I was very happy about his hiring at the time, but I did not know about the short term caveat. That may have pushed me towards somebody else. We're not exactly Xavier or Butler in terms of transitioning lol.

One step at a time though. We're still on step one (become a winning program under Mullin).
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=294238][quote="L J S A" post=294237][quote="rawdognyc" post=294236][quote="L J S A" post=294222]

Everyone probably thought the program would be stable and a winner by now. I had some reservations about hiring him -- Sucks but it's true. If we win big this season, but recruiting doesn't pick up, does he have it in him for another rebuild?[/quote]

Disagree. Most on here figured year 3 was NIT and by year 4 NCAAs with a couple of wins. Any reasonable thinking fan would know that year 2 was essentially year 1 of the rebuild, since year one was a patchwork job to get warm bodies on the floor. Anyway, we were 1 quitter away last year from easily a plus .500 record and an NIT, possibly an NCAA depending on the over/under of wins we'd have with Marcus. This year should really be 20 plus wins and NCAA with some noise if Heron is eligible. That's pretty damn good for a rebuild for a new coach whose never coached before. Secondly, why would there be a rebuild? We have quality players on board and they'll obviously bring in some more, especially with a successful season. The only thing I'll agree with and will have no problem admitting this Mullin thing was a failure is if we don't make the tourney this year with the talent and depth we have. Otherwise I'm confused as to how people expected more during a complete rebuild of a program. In professional sports where they have free agency and draft picks etc. it still takes teams years on a rebuild. Why would anyone expect anything different for a college program?[/quote]

I'm not talking about fans. I was talking about Mullin and the people who hired him. I think they all expected to be more successful.

And if we lose Ponds, Heron, and Simon along with Clark, it will be a major rebuild if we don't get players in here. Eli Wright hasn't proven that he can take a big leap, and Caraher is going to be a 6'5" PF for us and his PPG probably won't translate from low major to high major if past players are any example.[/quote]

Thank you for your response. I don't see Simon leaving after this year. Heron possibly depending on draft positioning. We'll see what Dixon and Keita bring to the table this year. It will be good for Williams and Roberts to get some minutes too... Obviously you're correct about Caraher and Wright. However I think we success, we can grab 1 or 2 late signing top 100 seniors. I really feel a couple of them are waiting to see how we do before they decide on a college. However, in my opinion, we still won't be in rebuild mode even losing Ponds, Clark and possibly a couple of others. I'm not some homer when it comes to Mullin though. If we aren't successful this year, I think major changes would need to take place. This team has talent and depth the likes in which we haven't seen since the Jarvis years.[/quote]

I'm hoping the same thing but going into year 5 the staff needs to show they can recruit direct from the prep ranks with high major players of the 4* variety. Mullin, imo, will bring the program no further along than Lavin with 3* players and transfers. Being in the bottom half of the Big East was not the long term intent of the Mullin experiment. This year he needs to move into the upper 5 and get a significant recruit to keep fans interested and to create media buzz. Having a $4 million budget for staff would be better spent starting over if all some want to do is maintain the status quo.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=294253]What this thread shows is that no matter what our team accomplished this season, the same negativity regarding Mullin & co. will persist at least until we are successful the following season. Already, even with Heron's transfer, that group has shifted focus on the 2018-19 season to the following one now that success this season seems much more of a possibility.

It's reasonable to be hungry for a successful program, but subjective satisfaction based on what has been accomplished so far is also reasonable.

What I think we should keep completely out of it is Mullin's family. Where part of his family lives is no one's business. In fact the only thing that matters is if we are able to build a winning program. If he wins, I don't care if he coaches from Siberia. If he doesn't, he will be gone soon enough.

The notion that Chris took this job as temporary is a load of garbage. I don't care what he is making - that's up to the school and him. To suggest that Mullin took this job for a few years and is lazy in his approach to his job is the same crap that was heaped upon Lavin (who by the way I defended on that basis also). At least people here aren't publicly rooting for him to lose, as they did in Robert's final season (I also posted against sentiment as much as I felt NR didn't have what it takes).

It takes extraordinary patience to root for SJU, and maybe there's a culture in NYC of Yankee fandom that expects if you spend tons of money you just have to win. No matter who we bring in here, winning is a difficult thing here. If history shows us anything, it's that rebuilding this program is far from an easy thing to do. The one thing I have been pretty certain about is that this is a guy who didn't take the job as a stepping stone, didn't take the money and run, didn't profess false love for the school, didn't claim he was a teacher when things went sour. This is a guy who wants to win because he has the same school pride as those of us who went here, moreso because he was the guy who led us to our only final four in the past 65 years.

I'm still betting on his getting us back to a national ranking and NCAA frequenter. The rest would involve luck and being able to upgrade recruiting, which mostly builds upon success. This year is an important year, not to save Mullin's hide, but to set a foundation of program success upon which to build a class program. Legacies are built in the tourney, not the regular season, and recruits know that.[/quote]

I have no issues with the past 3 lousy seasons. Given the talent we had, the first two years of losing big were written in the wind. I firmly believe we would’ve made the Dance last year, if Lovett hadn’t abandoned the team, and Chris should be credited with keeping the tream’s spirit largely intact through the BEC season.
My issue is our under-staffed recruiting effort, that because of Matt A’s magical transfer talents we’ve been able to offset thus far.
And, in fact—save fo lack of bigs—our current roster is loaded with talent.
The issue, imo, and I think it is a legitimate concern, is that we’ll have to replace Clark, and very likely will also have to replace Ponds and Heron for the 2019-20 season—and we don’t appear to be ‘close’ to inking the necessary 4*s that would stabilize the team after next season.
Why?
Because, we seem to lack a second full-time recruiter (one with local HS and AAU relationships) that would better enable us to recruit solid 4* HS recruits.
Why not?
That’s my issue.
Otherwise, I’m rooting like crazy for our team in 2018-19 (and every year), to win big and attract top talent.
 
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Lavin was coaching's answer to RoseAnn Rosannadana. It was always something and with the exception of STJ until DJ got hurt, his teams were always less than the sum of their parts.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=294230]Miss going to the Open. Used to go every year between 1994 and around 2004 but haven't been since. Saw Fed lose to Agassi before Fed was winning slams. I am planning two sports road trips next year, the BE tournament and the Open on Labor Day weekend.[/quote]

I know what you mean. One of the many things I truly miss about New York. My wife and I used to go about 4 times per year and always opening day. Great times.
 
Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits.


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241
 
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits.



https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]




I don’t get it.
Unless there are circumstances we know nothing of, how can this be viewed to be ‘normal’?
 
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