a lot of endlessly repetitive chatter

First, I thought, maybe he's on unpaid time off via FMLA... but that only lasts 12 weeks...

if this guy has not been on campus for almost six months, and his checks are still clearing, it's an embarrassment. I can't imagine any of SJU employee getting a six month free gig.

I've got it.... maybe Richmond is Jewish.... and will be celebrating Rosh Hashanah early next week.
 
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=294308]First, I thought, maybe he's on unpaid time off via FMLA... but that only lasts 12 weeks...

if this guy has not been on campus for almost six months, and his checks are still clearing, it's an embarrassment. I can't imagine any of SJU employee getting a six month free gig.

I've got it.... maybe Richmond is Jewish.... and will be celebrating Rosh Hashanah early next week.[/quote]

" I can't imagine any of SJU employee getting a six month free gig" ???
There is someone on payroll getting a 5 year free gig at 600k! Mitch is a bargain.
 
Ahh, how can I forget Slice !!… we'll maybe not an employee.

But, sure enough, received postcard in the mail today from Alumi office reminding that 9/25-26 is St. John's Inaugural Giving Day. At least it's not from Red/White Club. Hard to support the specific basketball program financially at this point without demonstrating any good disciple on salary or showing up for work. Will go to the games I can get to, as it's not the players fault.

Much rather the little I can donate while saving for my own child's college bill in two years, goes to a needing student for academics until seeing how Richmond shakes out. I'm beyond Rice, just anybody other than Richmond.
 
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Forget MR. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a few of these visits to see how engaged CM is. He MUST BE THE CLOSER. Not sure he has it in him with these high-profile HS stars.
 
[quote="Delaware" post=294315]Forget MR. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a few of these visits to see how engaged CM is. He MUST BE THE CLOSER. Not sure he has it in him with these high-profile HS stars.[/quote]


That would actually shock me: Chris Mullin, not closing on a game when a player?
I think he'll be very engaged and persuasive. Chris has a tangible 'presence' about him. I call it 'creds'.
But, I do think that Mitch Richmond--a 2nd HOFer in the room--with his 'presence' as well, would leave a powerful impression.
Chalk it up with the sundry other intangibles we'll never know for sure, but I think it would matter.
 
Austour wrote: I know what you mean. One of the many things I truly miss about New York. My wife and I used to go about 4 times per year and always opening day. Great times.


Thanks Austour - nothing like it. We have great college basketball here in NC, but tennis is limited to something called the Winston-Salem Open which even John Isner skipped this year!
 
[quote="RedStormNC" post=294308]First, I thought, maybe he's on unpaid time off via FMLA... but that only lasts 12 weeks...

if this guy has not been on campus for almost six months, and his checks are still clearing, it's an embarrassment. I can't imagine any of SJU employee getting a six month free gig.

I've got it.... maybe Richmond is Jewish.... and will be celebrating Rosh Hashanah early next week.[/quote]

"if this guy has not been on campus for almost six months, and his checks are still clearing, it's an embarrassment. I can't imagine any of SJU employee getting a six month free gig."

lol ahhh man, keep him over getting help? At this point I'll say, yeah I really want to season to start.
 
[quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?
 
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[quote="Delaware" post=294315]Forget MR. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a few of these visits to see how engaged CM is. He MUST BE THE CLOSER. Not sure he has it in him with these high-profile HS stars.[/quote]

I wonder if you've ever met or spoken to Chris in person.

Here are my impressions of the following guys I've met and spoken to. The impressions are about the conversations, and not my overall evaluation, because based on what others I know who either know or worked with them they are all good guys.

Mahoney - easy to talk to. Pretty transparent and a funny guy, especially with a few beers in him. Personality had to help him feel in guys like Felipe and Zendon.

Norm - people I know who worked for him say he is really a great guy and he did do something very nice for my kid. Speaking to him though I felt there was little transparency kind of like he was playing a part.

Lavin - mr. Charisma and I do believe he is a very good guy, especially w his former players. Speaking with him though I never got the impression that we connected. Maybe a California thing.

Jay wright. Met and spoke with him several time over the years. Amazing memory for people and things. Makes you feel like a friend and peer, maybe because he is the real deal as a person. Genuinely interested in you. Wife patty is the same.

Looie - definitely is sju royalty, but always had a way of interacting that made you feel good and always showed interest in you as a person, almost like you are the important person, not him.

Chris - also the real deal as a person. There's an honesty about him that when he tells you something, it's the truth, not sugar coated, and something he believes. Same transparency as jay but you feel that he knows about taking winners on an asphalt court with chain link fences and no nets.

Bottom line to your response is something Chris said at the small gathering (mostly families and some alums) at his SJU HOF induction: "Every single day I use something that I learned here at St. John's" Unlike some coaches who didn't go the the school they coach at, Chris is a guy who could have gone anywhere, chose sju, had phenomenal success, and is very proud of the sju. In recruiting I'm pretty certain all that comes through and I'm also sure it helps.
 
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Beast wrote: "Same transparency as jay".

The only transparency that existed in the St. John's program was with Matt Abdelmassih and he was told to zip it.
What is obvious is that this administration is struggling to keep up with the other Big East members. DePaul is in the same boat. There may come a time when DePaul, St. John's and Niagara are in the same basketball league with other like schools who like to feign BIG but think and manage small.
 
[quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Bingo it is the same discussion I have had with people on twitter who want to demand the administration force Chris Mullin to make a change.

There is 1 person who controls his staff. There is 1 person who is responsible for the make up of this staff. There is 1 person who decides the individual responsibilities of this staff. His name is Chris Mullin.

If you have a problem with a staff member or the fact they are or are not doing something, very simply you don't trust the man in charge...That simple.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=294335][quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Bingo it is the same discussion I have had with people on twitter who want to demand the administration force Chris Mullin to make a change.

There is 1 person who controls his staff. There is 1 person who is responsible for the make up of this staff. There is 1 person who decides the individual responsibilities of this staff. His name is Chris Mullin.

If you have a problem with a staff member or the fact they are or are not doing something, very simply you don't trust the man in charge...That simple.[/quote]

Your logic is so damned flawed. First of all, a small band of angry fans are never going to force administration to do anything, especially if it doesn't come from their significant donor base. Try getting your friends together and try telling the Red Cross not to supply aid to a particular area or to run their business a certain way - zip impact.

Because many of us wonder what MR does, I don't think you are accountable for his time. Gene Keady mostly observed games (and presumably some or all practices) and then made recommendations to Lavin and the staff, all for a tidy sum. I know that was his role because he told me that. I've never spoken to Mitch or any member of the staff as to his role, so while fans have been speculating as to what MR would be really good at (like recruiting for example). I agree it appears puzzling on the outside, but to say a particular staff member is a reason to distrust Chris is just foolish, not worse - it's ill conceived and stupid.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=294332]Beast wrote: "Same transparency as jay".

The only transparency that existed in the St. John's program was with Matt Abdelmassih and he was told to zip it.
What is obvious is that this administration is struggling to keep up with the other Big East members. DePaul is in the same boat. There may come a time when DePaul, St. John's and Niagara are in the same basketball league with other like schools who like to feign BIG but think and manage small.[/quote]

As Ronald Reagan once said, I believe to Walter Mondale in a debate, "Well, there you go again..."



You cannot contain your vitriol. I was speaking as to in person persona. You seem to be greatly enamored with Chris' personal whereabouts and family situation, almost in a stalkish type of way. Your anger cannot be simply contained to performance, so when I say there is a basic honesty that comes across in conversation, and transparency of thought, you have to villify the entire program and infer that a directive has been mandated that our coaches NOT be transparent, with your example, in recruiting. Really 72, most times it must suck to be you to carry this stuff around with you every day.
 
[quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Thank you, Happy! I've been saying the same thing, and I've even posted it a couple times.

The anger is misplaced when it comes to Richmond. He's only doing what he's allowed to do. Who is allowing him to not recruit? It's like some folks are obtuse, trying not to blame Mullin or.....

This is what I told a fellow fan yesterday: If Mullin ain't exactly busting his ass recruiting, then he's not gonna expect the same from his buddy. If Mullin was truly out there grinding on the recruiting trail, then he'd probably expect the same from Richmond (unless, there was a serious issue going on in his life).

Before someone come on and say, Mullin was out there in July or he's attending the in-home visits.... Well, any head coach who doesn't wanna catch some serious flak WILL and ARE out there in July. Besides, July is the biggest and most important month when it comes to grassroots hoops. It's the previous months when Mullin should've been visible, but was MIA. Or, times when he could be in a NYC HS gym, but he's invisible.

The in-home visits.... Any coach worth his salt better show up to in-home visits. What coach doesn't show up to in-home's? Not to mention, as I stated above. If he doesn't wanna be villified, then he better show up. The 2019 class is extremely important going forward, so maybe there's a sense of urgency.

Lastly, put the blame at the feet of Richmond's boss.... The head coach. The same head coach who went to bat for Richmond.
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=294341][quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Thank you, Happy! I've been saying the same thing, and I've even posted it a couple times.

The anger is misplaced when it comes to Richmond. He's only doing what he's allowed to do. Who is allowing him to not recruit? It's like some folks are obtuse, trying not to blame Mullin or.....

This is what I told a fellow fan yesterday: If Mullin ain't exactly busting his ass recruiting, then he's not gonna expect the same from his buddy. If Mullin was truly out there grinding on the recruiting trail, then he'd probably expect the same from Richmond (unless, there was a serious issue going on in his life).

Before someone come on and say, Mullin was out there in July or he's attending the in-home visits.... Well, any head coach who doesn't wanna catch some serious flak WILL and ARE out there in July. Besides, July is the biggest and most important month when it comes to grassroots hoops. It's the previous months when Mullin should've been visible, but was MIA. Or, times when he could be in a NYC HS gym, but he's invisible.

The in-home visits.... Any coach worth his salt better show up to in-home visits. What coach doesn't show up to in-home's? Not to mention, as I stated above. If he doesn't wanna be villified, then he better show up. The 2019 class is extremely important going forward, so maybe there's a sense of urgency.

Lastly, put the blame at the feet of Richmond's boss.... The head coach. The same head coach who went to bat for Richmond.[/quote]

Hey MJ.. To my knowledge in home visits are a one shot deal by regulations. I don't read all the speculation, and try to focus on what's real. An in home visit is a chance to influence parents or guardians that this is the best place for a kid. Any high level recruit you are very serious about should have the HC present.

Are you saying with certainty that CM has not gone to in home visits for our top recruits?

I would agree that just be presence alone, CM and MR walking into the home of a recruit would impress the heck out of a parent if not the kid himself.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=294342][quote="MJDinkins" post=294341][quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Thank you, Happy! I've been saying the same thing, and I've even posted it a couple times.

The anger is misplaced when it comes to Richmond. He's only doing what he's allowed to do. Who is allowing him to not recruit? It's like some folks are obtuse, trying not to blame Mullin or.....

This is what I told a fellow fan yesterday: If Mullin ain't exactly busting his ass recruiting, then he's not gonna expect the same from his buddy. If Mullin was truly out there grinding on the recruiting trail, then he'd probably expect the same from Richmond (unless, there was a serious issue going on in his life).

Before someone come on and say, Mullin was out there in July or he's attending the in-home visits.... Well, any head coach who doesn't wanna catch some serious flak WILL and ARE out there in July. Besides, July is the biggest and most important month when it comes to grassroots hoops. It's the previous months when Mullin should've been visible, but was MIA. Or, times when he could be in a NYC HS gym, but he's invisible.

The in-home visits.... Any coach worth his salt better show up to in-home visits. What coach doesn't show up to in-home's? Not to mention, as I stated above. If he doesn't wanna be villified, then he better show up. The 2019 class is extremely important going forward, so maybe there's a sense of urgency.

Lastly, put the blame at the feet of Richmond's boss.... The head coach. The same head coach who went to bat for Richmond.[/quote]

Are you saying with certainty that CM has not gone to in home visits for our top recruits?

I would agree that just be presence alone, CM and MR walking into the home of a recruit would impress the heck out of a parent if not the kid himself.[/quote]

Nah. I was just saying or rhetorically asking, "What coach doesn't attend in-home visits?" Meaning, I expect him to be at an in-home visit, so no one should be impressed or using it as a gauge of him grinding on the recruiting trail by attending.

I've long said that I think Mullin and Richmond could be formidable duo out on the recruiting trail if they truly put forth 100% effort into the job. I really believe that.
 
Beast: "You seem to be greatly enamored with Chris' personal whereabouts and family situation, almost in a stalkish type of way."

Not nearly as to the degree of worship you seem to have for Jay Wright. Your 5 minute conversations with various coaches so as to profile thier character puts Freud to shame. Must be that course in psychopharmacology you took that your thinking and behavior anytime I post something you either take personally or disagree with.
As for stalking Chris, I have my own sources and don't need to do Internet stalking to the degree of zooming in on mailboxes of posters you dislike.
Finally, I could care less about the whereabouts of Mully's boys (yes, Mully, a nickname that was foreign to you) or Mrs, Mully. I care about the whereabouts of our coaches on the recruiting trails that grow colder every day. There are a few posters here that embellish their knowledge of what is actually going on with made up stories and excuses. I gave an example of embellishments in the Mikey Dixon thread. You will notice that there has been not one logical retort because it was based on bulkshit. I put most of your Trump-like defenses in the same category. We are who we are so you nor I should take it personally.
 
[quote="Moose" post=294343]I haven't read the last 511 posts in this thread.
What is it about exactly?[/quote]

A full and detailed dissection is on TV, but I don't know the time or station, somebody else is going to have to provide that info.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=294338][quote="fordham96" post=294335][quote="Happy" post=294328][quote="RedStormNC" post=294305]Mitch must be planning to lock himself inside his office at Taffner to start developing his pre-season development plans and competition film watching. I'm sure he'll have the plans and reports on to Mullin via e-mail before they get back from their visits.

What a joke that a 2nd HOF assistant coach is not joining for official in home visits


https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1037832119966474241[/quote]

Don't you think the joke is him not being mandated to go on these visits? I have just read countless pages of anger towards Mitch Richmond and I don't get it when he is doing the duties of someone who has a cushy job. I do know he works with the players but for all the people who want him to get off of his butt and go recruit then why isn't this anger directed at his boss?[/quote]

Bingo it is the same discussion I have had with people on twitter who want to demand the administration force Chris Mullin to make a change.

There is 1 person who controls his staff. There is 1 person who is responsible for the make up of this staff. There is 1 person who decides the individual responsibilities of this staff. His name is Chris Mullin.

If you have a problem with a staff member or the fact they are or are not doing something, very simply you don't trust the man in charge...That simple.[/quote]

Your logic is so damned flawed. First of all, a small band of angry fans are never going to force administration to do anything, especially if it doesn't come from their significant donor base. Try getting your friends together and try telling the Red Cross not to supply aid to a particular area or to run their business a certain way - zip impact.

Because many of us wonder what MR does, I don't think you are accountable for his time. Gene Keady mostly observed games (and presumably some or all practices) and then made recommendations to Lavin and the staff, all for a tidy sum. I know that was his role because he told me that. I've never spoken to Mitch or any member of the staff as to his role, so while fans have been speculating as to what MR would be really good at (like recruiting for example). I agree it appears puzzling on the outside, but to say a particular staff member is a reason to distrust Chris is just foolish, not worse - it's ill conceived and stupid.[/quote]

This isn't even close to what I was talking about.
 
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