a lot of endlessly repetitive chatter

[quote="NCJohnnie" post=294390]Chicago Days wrote: Hi NCJohnnie. I also hope (and pray to the hoop gods) that doesn't happen.
This entire Board will root like crazy for the team.
Meanwhile (to repeat myself!), we're at a distinct disadvantage in Staffing Structure--not having a full-time 3rd AC-- versus our major competition and it mystifies me why CM does not appear concerned about it.
As many of us have said: we have a very talented roster going into this coming season (with Mustapha) and should win, maybe big-time.
Let's hope we do, and attract top talent.


Hi Chicago, understand that you (and many other posters) feel that CM is hamstringing the program with his use (or non-use) of Mitch. Maybe it is the case that Mitch is not expected to do any recruiting or he just isn't doing it and Mullin is allowing that to happen and CM is unconcerned about going into battle against rest of BE with one less recruiter than the competition. But we don't know any of that to be true and I am uncomfortable making those assumptions as there has also been speculation that Mitch may have had reasons to be absent this summer. I think the level of Mitch's involvement on an ongoing basis will become apparent this fall and at some point I'd expect Zach or another writer to ask Mullin about it if it does continue. Just to be clear, I agree with you 100% that it doesn't make sense to have a part-time AC who doesn't recruit if that is in fact Mitch's job description.[/quote]

Thanks NCJ.
I understand and share the loyalty to CM.
I simply do not understand why we have only 1 full-time recruiting AC while all other major hoop programs (pretty sure) have 2.
Here's hoping winning big resolves the immediate challenge--getting solid 4* 2019 HS recruits..
 
OMG I cant wait for the first game so you will have other stuff to either cheer or complain or both and this sorry sorry excuse for a topic ends. You people are worse than Trump and the media opining on social media like people who have great expertise in anything that is going on. Its more like A company of millennials trying to get the last word. You all made your points, 20 times, stop beating the dead horse, we know what you think and no you will not convert anyone from the other side.
 
[quote="johnsliva" post=294393]OMG I cant wait for the first game so you will have other stuff to either cheer or complain or both and this sorry sorry excuse for a topic ends. You people are worse than Trump and the media opining on social media like people who have great expertise in anything that is going on. Its more like A company of millennials trying to get the last word. You all made your points, 20 times, stop beating the dead horse, we know what you think and no you will not convert anyone from the other side.[/quote]

I am so upset about what's on Channel 4 tonight. How dare they run that episode again. I have already seen it about 15 times. I wonder what I can do about this?
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=294389]The Objective: Take a program mired in a long stretch of failure, with a campus and facilities inferior to its competitors, and climb the ladder of a strong and very competitive conference.

The Approach: We will do it with one hand tied behind our back. Or, more specifically, we will recruit with one less coach than all of our competitors.

The Response: Why?[/quote]

Why is playing left field. As for the answer to your question, I don't know, who is the third baseman. Makes as much sense as the rest of this thread.
 
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=294394][quote="johnsliva" post=294393]OMG I cant wait for the first game so you will have other stuff to either cheer or complain or both and this sorry sorry excuse for a topic ends. You people are worse than Trump and the media opining on social media like people who have great expertise in anything that is going on. Its more like A company of millennials trying to get the last word. You all made your points, 20 times, stop beating the dead horse, we know what you think and no you will not convert anyone from the other side.[/quote]

I am so upset about what's on Channel 4 tonight. How dare they run that episode again. I have already seen it about 15 times. I wonder what I can do about this?[/quote]

Complain about it endlessly on an obscure internet forum that 200 people read: guaranteed that you voice will be heard.
 
JohnSilva wrote: OMG I cant wait for the first game so you will have other stuff to either cheer or complain or both and this sorry sorry excuse for a topic ends. You people are worse than Trump and the media opining on social media like people who have great expertise in anything that is going on. Its more like A company of millennials trying to get the last word. You all made your points, 20 times, stop beating the dead horse, we know what you think and no you will not convert anyone from the other side.

Guilty as charged. I've made my last post on this neverending thread. That is a promise I will try my best to keep.
 
I'm not sure what record is for thread length but I think we should keep the chatter going until the record is broken or Mitch Richmond returns to work, whichever comes first.
I also want to share that 3 months ago I heard from an anonymous source that Mike Rice was never a candidate but was actually a code name for the actual candidate Tom Pecora who came highly recommended by Jay Wright. I know this to be true because the anonymous source is VERY connected to the school. However, after a week long protest by said connected person the candidacy of Tom Pecora was squashed. The very real threat that President Conrado would be photoshopped in compromising situations in an Asian massage parlor on Northern Boulevard was the key factor in dropping the Pecora candidacy.
Another rumor has it that an op ed will appear in the Torch next week by an insider who works in the sports department who states that the search committee to hire a new A.D. never really existed and that the confidential job posting was swiped off the desk of Conrado “Bobby” Gempesaw, Ph.D., and thus, there are no real candidates except for one personally recommended by Chris Mullin who will have the AD report directly to him. I would go into more detail but I promised my anonymous source that I would not post anything publicly until 4 months after the horse has been beaten to death.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=294386]I can't find MJM's excellent post on this topic or I'd include it here, but he basically said Coach Mullin has chosen his staff to succeed or fail with and there will be no excuses if it doesn't work.

67 of the ESPN top 100 for 2019 are still unsigned, so it's not like it is too late to sign good recruits. We have several visits upcoming including with some from that top 100 list. Let's see what happens. I expect if we sign a couple of top recruits for 2019 and have an excellent year, the staff criticism will die down. If we have a poor recruiting year and/or don't make the dance, many of the posters on this thread will be justified in saying I told you so (many times), we can't succeed with this staff as constructed. I hope that doesn't happen; only time will tell.[/quote] Thanks for remember ing my pulitzer winning post !!!!


I forget exactly what I wrote the other dat but basically my feeling at this point is I'm massively angry at the coaching/recruiting structure. But at this point in september I'm over it. Someone wrote on a different thread or maybe this one dont be mad at Mitch because Mullin defined the role. I've knocked Mitch a lot for being lazy recruiting ( and going to alumni events ) but who knows. Like a couple others said maybe Mullin defined that roll to him from the beginning. I'm not privy to that. I dont know whats true with that. Either way it falls on Mullin because if I'm a boss no way am I dealing with people on my staff who wont work harder than me

Thats just a disaster in any business and anyone who owns their own business or is responsible for others can agree with I think
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=294401][quote="NCJohnnie" post=294386]I can't find MJM's excellent post on this topic or I'd include it here, but he basically said Coach Mullin has chosen his staff to succeed or fail with and there will be no excuses if it doesn't work.

67 of the ESPN top 100 for 2019 are still unsigned, so it's not like it is too late to sign good recruits. We have several visits upcoming including with some from that top 100 list. Let's see what happens. I expect if we sign a couple of top recruits for 2019 and have an excellent year, the staff criticism will die down. If we have a poor recruiting year and/or don't make the dance, many of the posters on this thread will be justified in saying I told you so (many times), we can't succeed with this staff as constructed. I hope that doesn't happen; only time will tell.[/quote] Thanks for remember ing my pulitzer winning post !!!!


I forget exactly what I wrote the other dat but basically my feeling at this point is I'm massively angry at the coaching/recruiting structure. But at this point in september I'm over it. Someone wrote on a different thread or maybe this one dont be mad at Mitch because Mullin defined the role. I've knocked Mitch a lot for being lazy recruiting ( and going to alumni events ) but who knows. Like a couple others said maybe Mullin defined that roll to him from the beginning. I'm not privy to that. I dont know whats true with that. Either way it falls on Mullin because if I'm a boss no way am I dealing with people on my staff who wont work harder than me

Thats just a disaster in any business and anyone who owns their own business or is responsible for others can agree with I think[/quote]

No mas from me on this...after this!:
It is what it is. One way or the other, it's CM's team and his rules., whether I and my ilk agree or not.
It is his coaching legacy.
Let's go St. John's.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=294403][quote="mjmaherjr" post=294401][quote="NCJohnnie" post=294386]I can't find MJM's excellent post on this topic or I'd include it here, but he basically said Coach Mullin has chosen his staff to succeed or fail with and there will be no excuses if it doesn't work.

67 of the ESPN top 100 for 2019 are still unsigned, so it's not like it is too late to sign good recruits. We have several visits upcoming including with some from that top 100 list. Let's see what happens. I expect if we sign a couple of top recruits for 2019 and have an excellent year, the staff criticism will die down. If we have a poor recruiting year and/or don't make the dance, many of the posters on this thread will be justified in saying I told you so (many times), we can't succeed with this staff as constructed. I hope that doesn't happen; only time will tell.[/quote] Thanks for remember ing my pulitzer winning post !!!!


I forget exactly what I wrote the other dat but basically my feeling at this point is I'm massively angry at the coaching/recruiting structure. But at this point in september I'm over it. Someone wrote on a different thread or maybe this one dont be mad at Mitch because Mullin defined the role. I've knocked Mitch a lot for being lazy recruiting ( and going to alumni events ) but who knows. Like a couple others said maybe Mullin defined that roll to him from the beginning. I'm not privy to that. I dont know whats true with that. Either way it falls on Mullin because if I'm a boss no way am I dealing with people on my staff who wont work harder than me

Thats just a disaster in any business and anyone who owns their own business or is responsible for others can agree with I think[/quote]

No mas from me on this...after this!:
It is what it is. One way or the other, it's CM's team and his rules., whether I and my ilk agree or not.
It is his coaching legacy.
Let's go St. John's.[/quote] agreed. this year is the year that defines his legacy. I dont care about any of the other crappy years. This is the 1 year that counts
 
Amen. If we don't have a bang up year both in terms of wins/losses and recruiting that is on Chris & team; no question. On the other hand, let's give them our hopes and best wishes that it happens- that is all I am saying. There is never anything to be gained by negativity.
 
have to agree too. Have to remember to keep thing positive.

Just so easy to flip to the dark side with some of the stuff that surrounds the program or creates easy negative perception.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=294426]Per Rothstein
Well embedded moles in Queens say that two transfers --- LJ Figueroa and Mikey Dixon --- have shined early in team workouts for St. John's. Dixon was MAAC ROY in 16-17. #SJUBB[/quote] That’s good to hear. Need Keita to be solid, he’s our only true big this year. Roberts and Earlington too raw to count on this year. Why is getting bigs so difficult for us?
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=294405][quote="Chicago Days" post=294403][quote="mjmaherjr" post=294401][quote="NCJohnnie" post=294386]I can't find MJM's excellent post on this topic or I'd include it here, but he basically said Coach Mullin has chosen his staff to succeed or fail with and there will be no excuses if it doesn't work.

67 of the ESPN top 100 for 2019 are still unsigned, so it's not like it is too late to sign good recruits. We have several visits upcoming including with some from that top 100 list. Let's see what happens. I expect if we sign a couple of top recruits for 2019 and have an excellent year, the staff criticism will die down. If we have a poor recruiting year and/or don't make the dance, many of the posters on this thread will be justified in saying I told you so (many times), we can't succeed with this staff as constructed. I hope that doesn't happen; only time will tell.[/quote] Thanks for remember ing my pulitzer winning post !!!!


I forget exactly what I wrote the other dat but basically my feeling at this point is I'm massively angry at the coaching/recruiting structure. But at this point in september I'm over it. Someone wrote on a different thread or maybe this one dont be mad at Mitch because Mullin defined the role. I've knocked Mitch a lot for being lazy recruiting ( and going to alumni events ) but who knows. Like a couple others said maybe Mullin defined that roll to him from the beginning. I'm not privy to that. I dont know whats true with that. Either way it falls on Mullin because if I'm a boss no way am I dealing with people on my staff who wont work harder than me

Thats just a disaster in any business and anyone who owns their own business or is responsible for others can agree with I think[/quote]

No mas from me on this...after this!:
It is what it is. One way or the other, it's CM's team and his rules., whether I and my ilk agree or not.
It is his coaching legacy.
Let's go St. John's.[/quote] agreed. this year is the year that defines his legacy. I dont care about any of the other crappy years. This is the 1 year that counts[/quote] Can’t define a legacy by 1 year. If we have a successful year have to build on it.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=294412]Amen. If we don't have a bang up year both in terms of wins/losses and recruiting that is on Chris & team; no question. On the other hand, let's give them our hopes and best wishes that it happens- that is all I am saying. There is never anything to be gained by negativity.[/quote]

It took you about three hours to violate your earlier post about not posting on this thread again.;) :cheer:
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=294429]Can’t define a legacy by 1 year. If we have a successful year have to build on it.[/quote]

If we win national championship this year and he rides off into sunset, I'd say that's his legacy. No one would remember Mitch, Rice, sitting on tables, Slice, etc.
 
Well, it's good to know that people "suspect" Mitch will be here and completely engaged from now through the end of the season. And, further, that he will be pulled in when the situation seems closable.

Wait a minute, he is a full time assistant coach. Am I supposed to be thankful?

#BushLeague
 
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My last post was deleted even though it was perfectly on topic. Those who criticize me for "repeating" so much ironically repeat their same BS themselves and the only difference is they have a different opinion. Anyway, my heart says 22+ wins and a tourney berth with Heron, but my gut says 19-20 wins after Heron is ruled ineligible and we make the NIT. That would split the board into 2 factions: 1 which would make it seem like Mullin made the Final Four when Lavin got us further and 1 which would be more realistic and say the NIT was a step forward but not enough.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=294848]My last post was deleted even though it was perfectly on topic. Those who criticize me for "repeating" so much ironically repeat their same BS themselves and the only difference is they have a different opinion. Anyway, my heart says 22+ wins and a tourney berth with Heron, but my gut says 19-20 wins after Heron is ruled ineligible and we make the NIT. That would split the board into 2 factions: 1 which would make it seem like Mullin made the Final Four when Lavin got us further and 1 which would be more realistic and say the NIT was a step forward but not enough.[/quote]

I didn't see what you said, but there must have been a good reason for it being deleted. Remember, you don't have to post here if you don't like how the site is being managed.
 
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