2nd DePaul Game

[beast of the east]

http://nypost.com/2015/02/10/st-johns-ncaa-tournament-hopes-rest-on-two-players/

As sacrilegious as this might sound, if we are to make an unlikely charge to an NCAA berth, I feel Jordan will have to be our best player, Harrison a steady 18-20 point scorer, for Dom to play at the high level without letdown, and Obekpa to reassert a semblance of dominance as a defensive player. Throw in Greene's play, estbalishment of an 8 man rotation, and nearly everything must fall into place to go on a tear over the final 8 conference games. A lot of ifs, but not impossible, just improbable.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

 

[gman]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

You also have to take into account the fact that college basketball stinks this year and most teams are very inconsistent. IMO 9-9 probably get us in because there aren't 65 good teams this year.

 

[sirvoo]

More important than winning a game in which we are 9.5 point favorite, we need to continue playing well. It's a bit of a euro mentality but to me the attractiveness on the field/court is just as important as the results. Moreover I think that creates an identity for the team and dare I say roles for the players!

 

[Avon Barksdale]

9.5 is a big # to me since:

They beat us already
Chris is questionable
They have a better record than us

I think we win, but its a high spread

 

[Jack Williams]

http://depaul.scout.com/forums/2585-discussion/13648224-looking-ahead-to-st-john-s?s=430

 

[thetux1]

9.5 is a big # to me since:

They beat us already
Chris is questionable
They have a better record than us

I think we win, but its a high spread

you just described the Creighton game

 

[Avon Barksdale]

9.5 is a big # to me since:

They beat us already
Chris is questionable
They have a better record than us

I think we win, but its a high spread

you just described the Creighton game

Creightons record wasnt better and we all assumed Chris would play

 

[beast of the east]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

You also have to take into account the fact that college basketball stinks this year and most teams are very inconsistent. IMO 9-9 probably get us in because there aren't 65 good teams this year.

I'd bet cash money that 9-9 doesn't get us in. Sorry, the best 68 teams don't get in (is it 68 now?) With all the mid majors unranked but conf champs, maybe the best 45 get in.

 

[Class of 72]

Eleven pages of pre-game talk! My money is if we win there won't be 11 pages of post-game talk but if we lose we may break a record and the "Next Coach" thread becomes very active again.
You guys remind me of two fats girls waiting for McDonald's to open with all this anticipation. :cheer:
http://hypehumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/anticipation.jpg

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

You also have to take into account the fact that college basketball stinks this year and most teams are very inconsistent. IMO 9-9 probably get us in because there aren't 65 good teams this year.

I'd bet cash money that 9-9 doesn't get us in. Sorry, the best 68 teams don't get in (is it 68 now?) With all the mid majors unranked but conf champs, maybe the best 45 get in.

The problem with 9-9 is there will probably be no good road win vs GT, X or Nova which the committee would like to see.

We would have to win maybe 2 games in the BET if we finish 9-9 i the league.

 

[gman]

http://depaul.scout.com/forums/2585-discussion/13648224-looking-ahead-to-st-john-s?s=430

How does a team with 17 fans even have a message board?

 

[Jack Williams]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...debut-of-basketball-arena-20150206-story.html

The opening of the arena has been delayed for DePaul. Gotta admit, the design looks awesome, will they put a product on the floor that gets that gym sold out is the question

 

[thetux1]

9.5 is a big # to me since:

They beat us already
Chris is questionable
They have a better record than us

I think we win, but its a high spread

you just described the Creighton game

Creightons record wasnt better and we all assumed Chris would play

well we do have a much better overall record than Depaul's

 

[gman]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-depaul-delays-debut-of-basketball-arena-20150206-story.html

The opening of the arena has been delayed for DePaul. Gotta admit, the design looks awesome, will they put a product on the floor that gets that gym sold out is the question

From another article they assumed 9500 fans per game in the financials. They average less than 3000 currently...

 

[tom in salem]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-depaul-delays-debut-of-basketball-arena-20150206-story.html

The opening of the arena has been delayed for DePaul. Gotta admit, the design looks awesome, will they put a product on the floor that gets that gym sold out is the question

From another article they assumed 9500 fans per game in the financials. They average less than 3000 currently...

to be fair, 6,071.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/depa/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/stats/season_stats.pdf

 

[room112]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

You also have to take into account the fact that college basketball stinks this year and most teams are very inconsistent. IMO 9-9 probably get us in because there aren't 65 good teams this year.

Exactly, people are obsessing over W/L record. RPI is more important because it shows where we stand compared to the rest of the field. 9-9 would mean 5 more wins with 3 coming over top 50 RPI teams, that's big

 

[1and1sju]

Looking forward to the game tonight. I'd like to see if this team is going to make February and March interesting. A win tonight and we keep the dream of the NCAAs alive.

 

[TonyinFairfield]

Looking forward to the game tonight. I'd like to see if this team is going to make February and March interesting. A win tonight and we keep the dream of the NCAAs alive.

Me too and agree with your assessment about our post season hopes.

But these 9:00 PM games are a killer. I won't be getting home until after midnight. Hopefully, with my St. John's winter cap! :lol:

 

[austour]

Needless to say, this is a huge game.

If we lose, we are done. If we win, we could lose @ Xavier and actually still have hope. This is what you call a swing game.

Here's the reality. At 4-6, if you look at Villanova away, that game is fair to mark down as a loss. When you do that, we'd have to go 6-1 in remaining games to even have a prayer at an at large bid. 21-10, 10-8 is not a lock to get in, especially when you consider that 10-8 in conference is no better than a 4-5th place finish.

Agree with his 100%. Therefore we win out at home. Win at Marq and we would have to steal one at Gt or at X.

There is a lot of chatter especially among the not-so-bright Twitter users who are claiming that 9-9 gets us in. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that scenario. And work would have to be done in the BET to secure an at-large bid.

Our resume would be much more solid at 10-8 with a road win vs gt or x.

While I don't entirely disagree with you, a 9-9 team in this year's BE will have a substantially higher RPI than a 9-9 team in last year's BE and maybe even a 10-8 team in last year's BE. But I still think a 9-9 team would need to win 2 in the BET. Now a win at Nova to end the reg season at 9-9 would change a lot of the calculations with the huge RPI bump it would bring. But like you I wouldn't want to count on that either. Last year after the BET the ST John's RPI was 68 at 10-8, Marquette was at 90 at 9-9. That ain't happening this year.