2023-24 Roster

When it comes to available wings, Jaylon Tyson, a 6'6" wing from Texas Tech looks like a guy we should be after - as a soph averaged 11 ppg, shot 48%, 40% from three, 72% from the line and 6 rebounds a game playing 29 mpg. Plus another Texas guy lol. Would be a great pickup.

There's also Matthew Cleveland from Florida State who had 23 and 13 against us.
 
NCJohnnie said:
When it comes to available wings, Jaylon Tyson, a 6'6" wing from Texas Tech looks like a guy we should be after - as a soph averaged 11 ppg, shot 48%, 40% from three, 72% from the line and 6 rebounds a game playing 29 mpg. Plus another Texas guy lol. Would be a great pickup.

There's also Matthew Cleveland from Florida State who had 23 and 13 against us.
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Seems like we aren't involved with Cleveland but he's exactly the type of guy I want
 
We need a Theo John type of player. A banger down low who will set screens, play defense, grab rebounds, and finish around the rim. I think two of our final five ships need to be HS recruits.
 
 
Larry Wright said:
SSG
Again Pitino is miles ahead of Anderson. But not sure how you quantify that in wins. 3 seems aggressive. But if it is 3 that puts last year team on bubble. Any more than that and we are in. I would have liked to see him take more of last year team and enhance it through the portal. Think we make tournament that way.

Not going to lie, with each new recruit, losing the kids we did seems like a worse decision every time.

And people can’t have both ways, if the players were so bad, how was Anderson such a bad coach?
Which he was
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Losing the kids we did seems like a bad decision? First of all, I'm not sure of which decision you are referring to. The 3 best players were invited back. The best one stayed, and the other 2 chose to leave. Maybe the one who stayed leaves if everyone else stayed. Who knows. No one likes to be part of a toxic work environment. No way of knowing.

Next, perhaps trying to play babysitter to some head cases and disciplinary problems is something Pitino had no interest in doing, primarily because that takes away from what he is paid to do: coach up the players. Maybe he doesn't come here if he was required to re-recruit the entire roster. Just about every major program loses players now because of the lax transfer rules and NIL. To say that this was a decision at all was erroneous. It is part of today's landscape. I doubt you would be complaining if Posh and Storr, who were both invited back, stayed. No one in their right mind would be lamenting the loss of Curbelo and a few others. They weren't team players, and that can rub off on the rest of the team.

I am sure there are posters that believed that Pitino would be wearing a button that says "Hi , I'm Rick Pitino and I'm a hall of fame coach". and every 5 star recruit would drop everything and sign with St. John's. That's not how recruiting works. it's NIL and facilities and recent success that matters most. Every talented kid has a lot of choices, including options to play for future hall of fame coaches and programs with 5 star resort like facilities and fully operational NIL programs. There are other posters who think that Pitino can win with any combination of players. That's not happening either. I would not be surprised if the team struggles in year 1. That's a realistic understanding of the challenges even a 5 star coach has at what has been a 2 or at best a 3 star program for many years.
 
Ray Morgan said:
Losing the kids we did seems like a bad decision? First of all, I'm not sure of which decision you are referring to. The 3 best players were invited back. The best one stayed, and the other 2 chose to leave. Maybe the one who stayed leaves if everyone else stayed. Who knows. No one likes to be part of a toxic work environment. No way of knowing.

Next, perhaps trying to play babysitter to some head cases and disciplinary problems is something Pitino had no interest in doing, primarily because that takes away from what he is paid to do: coach up the players. Maybe he doesn't come here if he was required to re-recruit the entire roster. Just about every major program loses players now because of the lax transfer rules and NIL. To say that this was a decision at all was erroneous. It is part of today's landscape. I doubt you would be complaining if Posh and Storr, who were both invited back, stayed. No one in their right mind would be lamenting the loss of Curbelo and a few others. They weren't team players, and that can rub off on the rest of the team.

I am sure there are posters that believed that Pitino would be wearing a button that says "Hi , I'm Rick Pitino and I'm a hall of fame coach". and every 5 star recruit would drop everything and sign with St. John's. That's not how recruiting works. it's NIL and facilities and recent success that matters most. Every talented kid has a lot of choices, including options to play for future hall of fame coaches and programs with 5 star resort like facilities and fully operational NIL programs. There are other posters who think that Pitino can win with any combination of players. That's not happening either. I would not be surprised if the team struggles in year 1. That's a realistic understanding of the challenges even a 5 star coach has at what has been a 2 or at best a 3 star program for many years.
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There are at least two ways to ask a player back.
1. The way Rick did with Joel.
2. The way Rick did with everyone else.
 
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