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Respectfully disagree. Each dropoff in competition level gives you more time to get a shot off and smaller, less athletic defenders. It also gives you more wide open looks. Being a great shooter in d2 or d3 or at a mid major does not insure similar success at this level. Reverse is true also.

Being more selective also makes a big difference in shooting %.
Having good shooters around you helps massively too. Posh shot 29.9% from 3 as a freshman when he had his most attempts per game. That year had Greg Williams at SG shooting 44.8% and the team was ranked 138th in three pt %. This year St. John’s was ranked 240th in three pt % 332nd in attempts and 325th in makes. The head coach did nothing offensively and Curbelo and Jones was selfish, reckless players.
 
Having good shooters around you helps massively too. Posh shot 29.9% from 3 as a freshman when he had his most attempts per game. That year had Greg Williams at SG shooting 44.8% and the team was ranked 138th in three pt %. This year St. John’s was ranked 240th in three pt % 332nd in attempts and 325th in makes. The head coach did nothing offensively and Curbelo and Jones was selfish, reckless players.
Being surrounded by good shooters and passers and actually having a half court offense will determine how open you will be when you catch the ball and may also allow you to be more selective and wait for better shots, so yea i agree.
 
Being surrounded by good shooters and passers and actually having a half court offense will determine how open you will be when you catch the ball and may also allow you to be more selective and wait for better shots, so yea i agree.
With that said other teams gave Posh a lot of space to shoot. It wasn’t a case that he didn’t have open looks.
 
Good point. Look at Stef Smith for recent example. But a counterpoint could also be that those players were also getting the opponents best defender and were the main topic of discussions for opposing coaches game plans.

Beasts of the East said:
Respectfully disagree. Each dropoff in competition level gives you more time to get a shot off and smaller, less athletic defenders. It also gives you more wide open looks. Being a great shooter in d2 or d3 or at a mid major does not insure similar success at this level. Reverse is true also.


How about Steph Curry from Davidson. That level of competition didn’t seem to hurt him.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Respectfully disagree. Each dropoff in competition level gives you more time to get a shot off and smaller, less athletic defenders. It also gives you more wide open looks. Being a great shooter in d2 or d3 or at a mid major does not insure similar success at this level. Reverse is true also.


How about Steph Curry from Davidson. That level of competition didn’t seem to hurt him.
Far More recently and in our backyard the Division 2 kid who moved up to Creighton this year did just fine. I would have been thrilled to have scheirman on our team.
 
With that said other teams gave Posh a lot of space to shoot. It wasn’t a case that he didn’t have open looks.
Posh is not a good shooter and he likely never will be. But I believe he’s a much better shooter than what he showed most of last year. His stroke looked good during the exhibition and he actually shot the ball better the last few games with Curbelo out. His sophomore year he showed glimpses of a respectable mid-range game.

If he loses a little weight, gets his head on right and is part of a well-coached system there’s no reason to think he won’t be very effective.
 
Posh is not a good shooter and he likely never will be. But I believe he’s a much better shooter than what he showed most of last year. His stroke looked good during the exhibition and he actually shot the ball better the last few games with Curbelo out. His sophomore year he showed glimpses of a respectable mid-range game.

If he loses a little weight, gets his head on right and is part of a well-coached system there’s no reason to think he won’t be very effective.
Great post and I agree with every word you wrote. Would love to see what Posh could do with a good shooter at both the 2 and 3, and with both a 4 and 5 that could score. Forget about playing for a coach that ran a good half court offense.
 
With that said other teams gave Posh a lot of space to shoot. It wasn’t a case that he didn’t have open looks.
Not all shot are created equal. Shooting after multiple bounces is a low % shot. Getting a set shot from the paint is almost twice as good statistically. Great coaches have managers tracking those shots to show the shooters. I seriously doubt Anderson was one.

Regardless, Posh shot better as a freshman than Peyton Siva did his entire career at Lousiville. Everyone in college has flaws.
 
Not all shot are created equal. Shooting after multiple bounces is a low % shot. Getting a set shot from the paint is almost twice as good statistically. Great coaches have managers tracking those shots to show the shooters. I seriously doubt Anderson was one.

Regardless, Posh shot better as a freshman than Peyton Siva did his entire career at Lousiville. Everyone in college has flaws.
Some guys are just more natural off the dribble. Shamorie for example. Even though it is generally a much less successful shot. Posh showed a really solid mid range his first two years and they were almost exclusively off the bounce.
 
Not all shot are created equal. Shooting after multiple bounces is a low % shot. Getting a set shot from the paint is almost twice as good statistically. Great coaches have managers tracking those shots to show the shooters. I seriously doubt Anderson was one.

Regardless, Posh shot better as a freshman than Peyton Siva did his entire career at Lousiville. Everyone in college has flaws.
I agree. I also think it’s 95% mental with him. He might have also been a bit banged up this past year.
 
Curbeloitis
Totally agree. When MA took the keys away from Posh and turned them over to Andre whose style of play can only be described as teamwork wrecking, it wrecked Posh's confidence and wrecked any possibility of a team concept which is actually where Posh thrives the most. It was a season killing and job ending decision by MA, and it also undermined Posh's growth as a player. I hope he is able to find his mojo again whether it's here or elsewhere because when he was going well (remember his complete, embarrassing shutdown of Villanova's Ryan D in their first matchup last year?) he was fun to watch.
 
Some guys are just more natural off the dribble. Shamorie for example. Even though it is generally a much less successful shot. Posh showed a really solid mid range his first two years and they were almost exclusively off the bounce.
That’s an interesting comparison because Shamorie had that bizarre soph year where he dropped to 25% on three on nearly identical attempts. His shot selection was horrific. Circus shots off the dribble…not setting his feet…not getting to familiar release points like off a step-back so the muscle memory can do its thing.

He balanced those difficult shots better as a Junior with all those set threes from the corner and his #s went back up.

When Ponds was on he could shoot off the bounce and from anywhere, but you still have to take the higher % shots.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Respectfully disagree. Each dropoff in competition level gives you more time to get a shot off and smaller, less athletic defenders. It also gives you more wide open looks. Being a great shooter in d2 or d3 or at a mid major does not insure similar success at this level. Reverse is true also.


How about Steph Curry from Davidson. That level of competition didn’t seem to hurt him.
It says "does not insure". Silly to cherry pick an all time great player. How about Josh Roberts. Shot 73% at manhattan this season. At sju played great in OOC schedule. As soon as real games started, he wilted.
 
It says "does not insure". Silly to cherry pick an all time great player. How about Josh Roberts. Shot 73% at manhattan this season. At sju played great in OOC schedule. As soon as real games started, he wilted.

Not knickpicking. I could name many players that have made the transition from so called mid major to Power 5 conferences and flourished. Years ago I agree that the skill level was much higher in major conferences but that gap has narrowed and the players in mid major can compete and thrive at BE level. Not every mid level player can do well but many can just as many BE players should drop down a level.
 
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