Dylan drove me crazy at times in his 2nd year, but I really came to appreciate him this year. Very easy kid to root for, always 110% effort and did a lot of things well. He will do fine wherever he lands.
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Larry Wright
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Whole situation including press conference.
I am a Pitino guy but this… is not what you normally see. Even in the age of the portal.
guinness77
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You’re not gonna get continuity with a regime change. That’s impossible. Maybe, just maybe, we CAN get some continuity under this new regime. It sucks these guys are leaving, but it’s between them and Pitino. We were never winning with Anderson, it was crystal clear. These young men are doing what they think is best, there’s nothing us fans can do about it.
And, the college basketball of our heydays is long gone. You have to accept that. Our program hadn’t accepted it and that’s why we’re light years behind the majority of the Big East.
Larry Wright
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Wusu always gave you the Good the bad and the Ugly. Sometimes on same possession. He did play hard and I think if reigned in would have been more efficient.
He may be gone but the career shots blocked record will never be broken.
“Back in the day”? For someone who would pound the lectern claiming this program is backwards and better suited for the MAAC, it sure looks like you are now caught up in the past.
The successful programs have churned one and done players for a long time. But with the advent of the NIL, that is no longer the case. Kids are staying in college, but looking for better NIL deals.
Pitino may bring in one kid from the university of Washington and another from Washington State University with a big assist from it.
Will you not root for them because they came here for NIL money?
SJU has moved in the direction of how big time college football and basketball is run. It may stink for nostalgia and purity, but so has a lot of other more important things.
Unfortunately, being a consistent winner is nearly impossible without the cutthroat means to get there.
You seem worried all of a sudden.
He wouldn’t let (urge) the whole team leave, and tell his Iona recruit to prep a year, if he wasn’t confident he could reshape the roster.
Interesting. Hopefully Storr, but I think he will have plenty of suitors.
The only way (if then) to achieve any roster continuity in today's game is to have coaching continuity. There was close to universal consensus that the SJU coaching change was a good move. All of this comes with that. I'm not telling anyone how to feel, or to like it. I don't like it.
The reason I'm not upset about the transfers out is because the time to be upset that everything was getting blown up again was months ago when it became clear Anderson wasn't going to survive. Right now, I'm more focused on who is being brought in.
The reason I'm not upset about the transfers out is because the time to be upset that everything was getting blown up again was months ago when it became clear Anderson wasn't going to survive. Right now, I'm more focused on who is being brought in.
They were offered a position on next years team and turned it down. Their choice, NOT pushed out. No guarantees offered so they left. Your assessment is inaccurate. Everyone has to earn their PT is way it should be. That is path to winning !
Mullins Revenge
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We are a big time program now where winning is all that matters. There is no big time program that would want an undersized pg that cant shoot and has disciplinary issues.
The days of st johns having to settle on one dimensional players are over.
This is not rocket science.
When every single player of significance(LJ, GWill, Earl, etc) left over the past few years, there was a handful of posters who essentially said "don't let the door hit you on the way out". Some posters even bashed the departing players. Even Champ to some degree, although he left go pro. He was maligned by some as "not being clutch", etc. For cryin out loud, the kid carried our offense, carried himself with class and was a 2 time all big east player. Guess it's just the nature of the beast.
Really sorry to see Dylan going too. Loved his tenacity and unwillingness to give in to anyone. Guy would do anything asked of him. I wish him well and will follow him closely.
Very interested to see who Pitino brings in. Since he’s pushing all his chips to the center of the table, I want a tournament team next year. No excuses. I believe he could have coached these kids up, but he knows better than me. Having said that, go get players that can win now. I don’t want to hear that it was too late or better players weren’t available. I’m all in on Pitino, but we as fans can and should be as cut throat as he is. Time to put up Coach.
Very interested to see who Pitino brings in. Since he’s pushing all his chips to the center of the table, I want a tournament team next year. No excuses. I believe he could have coached these kids up, but he knows better than me. Having said that, go get players that can win now. I don’t want to hear that it was too late or better players weren’t available. I’m all in on Pitino, but we as fans can and should be as cut throat as he is. Time to put up Coach.
Wow some people are like Rome is burning. Continuity is what got us years and years of not winning. We aren't losing great players just ok to decent players on a bad team. Remember Rick has only been here a week. One week! I got one is happy that he is house cleaning. Start from ground up. Change the culture. Of course we lose players more than gain as it's one week. Just stop the crying some of you lol
Not sure of the hand wringing here. Players now get paid via NIL. Players have free movement. Anyone remember Greg Williams, Earlington. etc that just picked up and transferred. How is this different? Kids see it as a business and so do schools. This is and has been a “modified” version of professional basketball for several years now. Look at the number of “kids” in the portal. The 4 year scholarship system is long dead and gone. I was NOT in favor of it but my opinion doesn’t matter. I was told that kids deserve to get paid. Well, here we are. St. John’s is just catching up. They could continue to ignore the current world and continue losing or apply the same methods every other school to at least compete.
I'm 47 and basically grew up at Alumni Hall and was conditioned to believe St. John's would always be a national power. I've been deeply upset with the program for the past 23 years, and not OK at all with the recent state of things, and wholeheartedly welcome RP and an almost complete roster turnover. I am thrilled we will likely soon have a pipeline of 5* one and dones. I also enjoy talking about the past in the appropriate forum links. Likely a function of my middle age. I don't think they're mutually exclusive.
SMH really . Put up? Rick has been here a week and sju has had more positive vibes and press. Some people coming out of the woodwork . Yes let's bring back those players who didn't get invited to the NIT. Cause that's the culture you want to continue .
Pitino probably would have to hire a psychiatrist to sit at the end of bench as well.
Curbelo was more than an "alright" player when he was focused, but too often he was "wildin' out." If Pitino can get the former, then I totally agree.
Didn’t ask for it to continue and not coming out of the woodwork. You’re just makIng up your own arguments. Have a good day.