2023-24 Roster

MCNPA said:
Soriano became one of the best big men in the ncaa this past season. In step with guys like Sanogo of UConn if not better. Add Rick Pitino and a whole bunch of new talent and special things can happen. Soriano’s impact this past season as well as next can’t be understated. I don’t think he’s touched his potential yet. He needs to get into even better shape and develop at both ends to become dominant. He can do that.
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I like Soriano as well and posted last year that he was underutilized. Needs to finish stronger if want to compare him to a guy that is dominating the NCAA tournament though.
 
monte said:
Don't you just love posters who like to tell other posters what they should and shouldn't be talking about? My "ignore" list just gets longer and longer.
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You may end up with noone left to ignore but yourself in which case you may as well just ignore noone and yourself and JUST END IT! 🤪
 
Larry Wright said:
I like Soriano as well and posted last year that he was underutilized. Needs to finish stronger if want to compare him to a guy that is dominating the NCAA tournament though.
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Sonago had improved every season just as Soriano. With his new confidence and increased work in the weight room and personal coaching over the next 8 months I can see Soriano dominating at every level.
Needless to say if our forwards will be better shooters it will be very difficult to double team Joel down in the post next season.
 
MCNPA said:
Soriano became one of the best big men in the ncaa this past season. In step with guys like Sanogo of UConn if not better. Add Rick Pitino and a whole bunch of new talent and special things can happen. Soriano’s impact this past season as well as next can’t be understated. I don’t think he’s touched his potential yet. He needs to get into even better shape and develop at both ends to become dominant. He can do that.
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Baby Shaq!!!!!!!!!
 
stjohnnie75 said:
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Yeah most of us haven’t mentioned King. Honestly he might fit Pitino's roster the best of anybody. He’s young, plays at both ends and can shoot amongst other skills. I’d love King back maybe third to Soriano and Storr. Just not sure what Pitino will do. He’s also got a bit of that Marcus Hatten factor to him where I think as he grows in skill he will be the guy that makes impossible shots, takes over etc. he has a beautiful shot too.
 
Rocket said:
What is your basis for assuming David Jones is gone?
After Soriano, he was the best player on the team. His decision making cost him his starting position and all he needs in reining in. He and Soriano are tight and is very redeemable if he chooses to stay. No way Pitino is running him off.

As for the Posh speculation, he was disciplined during the season. You may have missed the benching. He was not suspended like Curbelo. Posh is a gym rat and gives 110%. There were "non-basketball" issues. Those who have been around college ball know that that usually refers to academic issues and class attendance.
The Head coach assigns assistants to monitor academic performance but those assistants delegate that responsibility to the young grad assistants.
The assumptions have been that CMA lost control of his team but not just on the court.

In the termination letter, Anderson was fired for "failure to create and support an environment that strongly encourages student-athletes who are in the men's basketball program to meet all university academic requirements," "failure to perform your duties and responsibilities in a manner........and that Anderson failed to "appropriately supervise" his assistant coaches.

As far as we know, these kids were all good citizens. Everything the university is saying is that certain players were not in academic compliance and that is the responsibility of the head coach.

Finally, no coach can be held accountable for a student athlete getting low grades but he can be held accountable for students missing classes and study halls.

St. John's is betting $11 million dollars that it can show that the academic compliance issue didn't just involve ONE PLAYER.
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I’m familiar with Anderson’s termination letter. Unless I missed it, Posh was not referenced. There were one or two games where Posh didn’t start, but still played s
MCNPA said:
Yeah most of us haven’t mentioned King. Honestly he might fit Pitino's roster the best of anybody. He’s young, plays at both ends and can shoot amongst other skills. I’d love King back maybe third to Soriano and Storr. Just not sure what Pitino will do. He’s also got a bit of that Marcus Hatten factor to him where I think as he grows in skill he will be the guy that makes impossible shots, takes over etc. he has a beautiful shot too.
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Hmm, I don’t see it
 
Boo Harvey said:
I’m familiar with Anderson’s termination letter. Unless I missed it, Posh was not referenced. There were one or two games where Posh didn’t start, but still played s

Hmm, I don’t see it
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He’s very young. He has a lot of skills. Not trying to compare his level to Hatten’s excellence. Just a playing style comparison with his style in the lane and clutch difficult shot stuff.
 
Boo Harvey said:
I’m familiar with Anderson’s termination letter. Unless I missed it, Posh was not referenced. There were one or two games where Posh didn’t start, but still played s

Hmm, I don’t see it
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Hmm, You didn't miss it or see it because it would be illegal to mention the name of a student.
All you need to do follow the dots to the coach's decisions on players that were withheld for "team rules".
The only three mentioned were Posh, Curbelo and Pinzon.
St. John's entire case rests on the academics issue. So, if you are familiar with the entire termination letter, it would be safe to assume this is not about one player because the arbitrator will require the entire teams academic attendance records and compare that to GPA's. If the student is maintaining borderline eligibility it is damaging but if the kid is an A or B student while missing classes the school has no case.
I know someone in the business I've discussed this with and if the charges are generalized bullshit it will be tossed in a nanosecond.
From a strictly ethical standpoint, I hope that's not case.
 
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Rocket said:
Hmm, You didn't miss it or see it because it would be illegal to mention the name of a student.
All you need to do follow the dots to the coach's decisions on players that were withheld for "team rules".
The only three mentioned were Posh, Curbelo and Pinzon.
St. John's entire case rests on the academics issue. So, if you are familiar with the entire termination letter, it would be safe to assume this is not about one player because the arbitrator will require the entire teams academic attendance records and compare that to GPA's. If the student is maintaining borderline eligibility it is damaging but if the kid is an A or B student while missing classes the school has no case.
I know someone in the business I've discussed this with and if the charges are generalized bullshit it will be tossed in a nanosecond.
From a strictly ethical standpoint, I hope that's not case.
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I was referring to the comment about King.

As for Posh, I still don’t see any basis to conclude he was not attending class beyond rank speculation. You concede he was never once suspended last year nor was there any statement that he was subject to disciplinary action.

Your most recent post says something about Posh being withheld for “team rules.” I’m not sure what you’re referring to as I have no recollection of Posh missing any games other than when he was injured.

There were one or two games where he didn’t start, but still played significant minutes. Is that what you’re referring to? I don’t recall any mention that CMA’s decision not to start Posh in those games had anything to with discipline.

You may very well be correct that Posh didn’t attend classes, but I’d urge caution before impugning a kid’s reputation, particularly when there are no facts supporting your supposition and you concede you have no inside info.
 
Boo Harvey said:
I was referring to the comment about King.

As for Posh, I still don’t see any basis to conclude he was not attending class beyond rank speculation. You concede he was never once suspended last year nor was there any statement that he was subject to disciplinary action.

Your most recent post says something about Posh being withheld for “team rules.” I’m not sure what you’re referring to as I have no recollection of Posh missing any games other than when he was injured.

There were one or two games where he didn’t start, but still played significant minutes. Is that what you’re referring to? I don’t recall any mention that CMA’s decision not to start Posh in those games had anything to with discipline.

You may very well be correct that Posh didn’t attend classes, but I’d urge caution before impugning a kid’s reputation, particularly when there are no facts supporting your supposition and you concede you have no inside info.
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Last season, point guard Posh Alexander didn’t start multiple games due to disciplinary reasons.

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Mike Anderson fighting St. John’s over ‘for cause’ firing

St. John’s is trying to lure Rick Pitino to Queens, but the school’s former men’s basketball coach isn’t done with them yet.
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Boo Harvey said:
I was referring to the comment about King.

As for Posh, I still don’t see any basis to conclude he was not attending class beyond rank speculation. You concede he was never once suspended last year nor was there any statement that he was subject to disciplinary action.

Your most recent post says something about Posh being withheld for “team rules.” I’m not sure what you’re referring to as I have no recollection of Posh missing any games other than when he was injured.

There were one or two games where he didn’t start, but still played significant minutes. Is that what you’re referring to? I don’t recall any mention that CMA’s decision not to start Posh in those games had anything to with discipline.

You may very well be correct that Posh didn’t attend classes, but I’d urge caution before impugning a kid’s reputation, particularly when there are no facts supporting your supposition and you concede you have no inside info.
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You are overly fixated with POSH as are a few others here.
I don't bash players as is your habit. I'm simply repeating what I read and hear. If you are looking for an inside mole I hate to disappoint you. The Maven no longer has any sources outside of Lou to share with me.
Some of what I said is published if you choose to look. Accurate or not, it is there. The termination reasons are also public and the basis is mostly lack of academic oversight. The only players ever mentioned in that regard were the players I mentioned.
You want to disagree or refuse to accept then fine with me.
 
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Rocket said:
You are overly fixated with POSH as are a few others here.
I don't bash players as is your habit. I'm simply repeating what I read and hear. If you are looking for an inside mole I hate to disappoint you. The Maven no longer has any sources outside of Lou to share with me.
Some of what I said is published if you choose to look. Accurate or not, it is there. The termination reasons are also public and the basis is mostly lack of academic oversight. The only players ever mentioned in that regard were the players I mentioned.
You want to disagree or refuse to accept then fine with me.
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The telltale sign of a poor argument is the resort to ad hominem attacks for which your post is replete.

You say I have a habit of bashing players. Utterly false, but even if true, how does that support your argument?

You say I am fixated on Posh. Again this is a bait and switch and wholly irrelevant to your argument.

I’ve asked you several times to provide support for your supposition that Posh was not attending class. The only evidence you’ve provided is vague language in a termination letter — a document that was clearly drafted to justify CMA’s for cause firing — that didn’t reference a single player.

Obviously you are free to draw whatever conclusions you wish even if they are based on total speculation. But to post with certainty like you know something when you clearly don’t, particularly when it comes to the character of a player who by all accounts has given his all to this program for three years, is in my opinion unfortunate.
 
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