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2023-24 Rankings
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MugCostanza
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60th in the preseason edition of the KP rankings that dropped today.
Projects us to go 16-13 overall (missing the TBD Charleston games) and 9-11 in conference.
Projects us to go 16-13 overall (missing the TBD Charleston games) and 9-11 in conference.
Bong happy hour for KP
I would take that bet that the Johnnies do better than Kenpom projects.
Rough, as that would place us outside the Tournament, but also why I'm being a bit cautious in terms of expectations (for me it's just making the Tournament). Computers don't like us as much, but I'm also guessing computers don't account much for coaches but rather historical performances of the players and teams. Likely the answer is somewhere in the middle and we end up around #33 / 8 seed.
Completely nuts but really don't pay a lot of attention to analytics; killed the Yanks imho.
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And does their computer factor in 12 new players?
How could any algorithm predict this team? There are like 13 new players and a new staff. There are not enough data to go off of.
Honesty not sure how they determine their 73.28100986% winning probability predictions.
MugCostanza
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Generally agree that this team is tough for computers to gauge, but analytics and specifically KenPom have been far more accurate than humans at predicting this type of stuff
12 hours to go... will we make the preseason rankings for the first time in a couple decades? I've added two more AP entries from August - Vitale and Davis. These were after our roster was complete, and since they haven't published any newer articles it's safe to assume these are their ballots. My thoughts at the bottom as to whether we'll be ranked.
KenPom / Pomeroy: #60 (10/15/23) - NOT AP
Borges / CT Insider: NR (10/15/23)
CBS Sports / Rothstein: #23 (10/14/23)
Nevada Sports Net / Murray: NR (10/13/23)
News & Observer / DeCock: #24 (10/13/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #20 (10/11/23) - NOT AP
ESPN / Lunardi: #44 (10/10/23) - NOT AP
ESPN / Borzello: #25 (10/9/23)
Asbury Park Press / Carino: #25 (10/9/23)
CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23) - NOT AP
247Sports / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23) - NOT AP
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23) - NOT AP
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
Sources:
www.foxsports.com
www.espn.com
www.cbssports.com
www.espn.com
www.sbnation.com
www.ncaa.com
We are on 5/8 ballots and have 8 points. Let's say 64 ballots are in the preseason poll tomorrow- about the same as prior years- then at the current rate we would get 64 points- which most likely wouldn't be enough to crack the rankings. Last year there were 62 preseason ballots submitted and team #25 had 122 points. We would've been 29th last year with 64 points.
In 2021-22 there were 63 preseason ballots submitted and the 25th team had 125 points. We would've been 27th place with 64 points.
As I've been saying- being the token #25 vote won't be enough. We'd need some voters to rank us something like #18 and give us 8 points. We'll probably get one or two or those, but likely not enough.
Right now I'm predicting we won't be ranked and will be around #27. Still a great position to be in, especially considering we didn't even make the NIT last year.
KenPom / Pomeroy: #60 (10/15/23) - NOT AP
Borges / CT Insider: NR (10/15/23)
CBS Sports / Rothstein: #23 (10/14/23)
Nevada Sports Net / Murray: NR (10/13/23)
News & Observer / DeCock: #24 (10/13/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #20 (10/11/23) - NOT AP
ESPN / Lunardi: #44 (10/10/23) - NOT AP
ESPN / Borzello: #25 (10/9/23)
Asbury Park Press / Carino: #25 (10/9/23)
CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23) - NOT AP
247Sports / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23) - NOT AP
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23) - NOT AP
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
Sources:
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Dickie V's preseason men's top 25
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We are on 5/8 ballots and have 8 points. Let's say 64 ballots are in the preseason poll tomorrow- about the same as prior years- then at the current rate we would get 64 points- which most likely wouldn't be enough to crack the rankings. Last year there were 62 preseason ballots submitted and team #25 had 122 points. We would've been 29th last year with 64 points.
In 2021-22 there were 63 preseason ballots submitted and the 25th team had 125 points. We would've been 27th place with 64 points.
As I've been saying- being the token #25 vote won't be enough. We'd need some voters to rank us something like #18 and give us 8 points. We'll probably get one or two or those, but likely not enough.
Right now I'm predicting we won't be ranked and will be around #27. Still a great position to be in, especially considering we didn't even make the NIT last year.
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Another ballot- not on this one. Now at 8 points from 10 ballots. I get the sense some major outlets may have just included St. John's for clicks, while local AP voters would go with different personal preferences.
www.news-gazette.com
Although we likely won't be ranked (unless there are a LOT of teams in the mid 20s with no general consensus), the Big East will easily have our best preseason rankings since realignment.
We'll have 3 top 10 teams (Marquette, UConn and Creighton) and also Villanova.
UPDATE: Illinois ranked No. 25 in preseason AP Top 25
Illini just one of three Big Ten teams in first poll of the 2023-24 season
Although we likely won't be ranked (unless there are a LOT of teams in the mid 20s with no general consensus), the Big East will easily have our best preseason rankings since realignment.
We'll have 3 top 10 teams (Marquette, UConn and Creighton) and also Villanova.
AP Top 25 is out- St. John's is unranked - as expected / tied at #28 (with 47 votes). Will easily crack the rankings with a solid start to the season.
#5 Marquette
#6 UConn
#8 Creighton
#22 Villanova
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#28 St. John's (tied with UCLA)
#36 Xavier
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Excellent job by the Big East- and comes at the best time during TV negotiations. Of course now we'll need to prove on the court that these rankings are accurate (and in St. John's case, a bit undervalued).
#5 Marquette
#6 UConn
#8 Creighton
#22 Villanova
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#28 St. John's (tied with UCLA)
#36 Xavier
NCAA College Basketball Rankings: AP Top 25 Basketball Poll
The official page for the AP Top 25 men's college basketball poll. Keep up to date and view the latest NCAA men's basketball ranking updates each week for the 2023-24 season.
apnews.com
Excellent job by the Big East- and comes at the best time during TV negotiations. Of course now we'll need to prove on the court that these rankings are accurate (and in St. John's case, a bit undervalued).
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#35 Xavier alsoAP Top 25 is out- St. John's is unranked - as expected / tied at #28 (with 47 votes). Will easily crack the rankings with a solid start to the season.
#5 Marquette
#6 UConn
#8 Creighton
#22 Villanova
#28 St. John's
NCAA College Basketball Rankings: AP Top 25 Basketball Poll
The official page for the AP Top 25 men's college basketball poll. Keep up to date and view the latest NCAA men's basketball ranking updates each week for the 2023-24 season.