2022-23 Season

At this moment, based on who I think
is going to return and based on who we know is coming in, I don't see how we can expect to be even as good as this year, let alone better. Things will change in the coming months, maybe for the better or maybe for the worse. We'll see. 
 
I dont know, at this point just seems so pointless to speculate when none of us have any idea who will be on the team.
 
Monte post=465318 said:
At this moment, based on who I think
is going to return and based on who we know is coming in, I don't see how we can expect to be even as good as this year, let alone better. Things will change in the coming months, maybe for the better or maybe for the worse. We'll see. 

Surprised this is your take given how adamant you were last year about all of the turnover. 

Stability and experience are a potent arsenal in college ball. 
 
MainMan post=465267 said:
You guys are nuts. 
Posh would be the most prized player in the transfer portal today and the margin wouldn't be close. 
He'll be first team all BE next year. Book it. 
You can't possibly be suggesting that in all of college basketball, if every kid entered the transfer portal, that Posh would be the single most sought after kid? Because if you are, you're not simply nuts, you're a raving lunatic. 
 
Monte post=465325 said:
MainMan post=465267 said:
You guys are nuts. 
Posh would be the most prized player in the transfer portal today and the margin wouldn't be close. 
He'll be first team all BE next year. Book it. 
You can't possibly be suggesting that in all of college basketball, if every kid entered the transfer portal, that Posh would be the single most sought after kid? Because if you are, you're not simply nuts, you're a raving lunatic. 
He said « today «  and my read of Mainman’s post was if , heaven forbid , Posh entered the transfer portal today of all the players currently in the portal he would be the top player in. 
just my read of his post , I may have misinterpreted. 
 
 Iowa State who won two games last year and made the sweet sixteen. They have one high four star freshman point guard who is very good and a bunch of fifth year transfers that are but none of which seem to be stars. So who knows anything is possible.
 
Monte post=465224 said:
BrooklynRed post=465183 said:
With respect to Posh and those who do not consider him to be a star, I believe that he is being sold short.  He has completed 2 years and is developing as a player.  He has been remarkable in his growth at what is probably the premier position in college Bball today.  Compare his year 1 to 2 and see that he improved in virtually every statistic.  (Yes, his 3point shooting %age can improve but that is not the primary function for a PG.)  His shooting percentage and assists per game both we increased. Before the season, I felt that he needed to increase the assists numbers which he did.  Having seen point guards at SJU for about 40+ years, he is among the top three with Jackson and Barkley (also consider the players around those 2).  Statistically even with Barkley and ahead of Jackson at this point of their careers.  He is unique in his relentlessness.  I might be prejudiced as we are both Brooklyn guys.
BR I too am from Brooklyn and I too love Posh, but I don't think he is yet at the level of Barkley and certainly not MJ. Saying that he is not yet a star is no knock on him, he's a phenomenal basketball player and we are most fortunate to have him. But he is off injured, inconsistent and on at least 3 occasions, did not start for questionable reasons. I hope all those issues resolve themselves next season and he blossoms in to an all-american level player who can carry us most games. But until that happens, IMO he comes up short of being called a star. 

My goodness, Posh is incredible and any team in the country would be lucky to have him.  One of the biggest shames of this mess of a season is how Posh was simply made for this March madness national stage but it was not meant to be.  He would be an absolute darling right now if sju made a run. 
 
 
MainMan post=465323 said:
Monte post=465318 said:
At this moment, based on who I think
is going to return and based on who we know is coming in, I don't see how we can expect to be even as good as this year, let alone better. Things will change in the coming months, maybe for the better or maybe for the worse. We'll see. 

Surprised this is your take given how adamant you were last year about all of the turnover. 

Stability and experience are a potent arsenal in college ball. 
And so is talent. And  if we loose both Champ and Wheeler, that's a fair amount of talent to replace. 
 
Dave LoRe post=465336 said:
Monte post=465224 said:
BrooklynRed post=465183 said:
With respect to Posh and those who do not consider him to be a star, I believe that he is being sold short.  He has completed 2 years and is developing as a player.  He has been remarkable in his growth at what is probably the premier position in college Bball today.  Compare his year 1 to 2 and see that he improved in virtually every statistic.  (Yes, his 3point shooting %age can improve but that is not the primary function for a PG.)  His shooting percentage and assists per game both we increased. Before the season, I felt that he needed to increase the assists numbers which he did.  Having seen point guards at SJU for about 40+ years, he is among the top three with Jackson and Barkley (also consider the players around those 2).  Statistically even with Barkley and ahead of Jackson at this point of their careers.  He is unique in his relentlessness.  I might be prejudiced as we are both Brooklyn guys.
BR I too am from Brooklyn and I too love Posh, but I don't think he is yet at the level of Barkley and certainly not MJ. Saying that he is not yet a star is no knock on him, he's a phenomenal basketball player and we are most fortunate to have him. But he is off injured, inconsistent and on at least 3 occasions, did not start for questionable reasons. I hope all those issues resolve themselves next season and he blossoms in to an all-american level player who can carry us most games. But until that happens, IMO he comes up short of being called a star. 

My goodness, Posh is incredible and any team in the country would be lucky to have him.  One of the biggest shames of this mess of a season is how Posh was simply made for this March madness national stage but it was not meant to be.  He would be an absolute darling right now if sju made a run. 

 
Did you actually read my post, or just cherry pick what you wanted from it. I said "Posh is PHENOMENAL basketball player". You're a smart guy I take it. Certainly you know what the word phenomenal means. 
 
Monte post=465341 said:
Dave LoRe post=465336 said:
Monte post=465224 said:
BrooklynRed post=465183 said:
With respect to Posh and those who do not consider him to be a star, I believe that he is being sold short.  He has completed 2 years and is developing as a player.  He has been remarkable in his growth at what is probably the premier position in college Bball today.  Compare his year 1 to 2 and see that he improved in virtually every statistic.  (Yes, his 3point shooting %age can improve but that is not the primary function for a PG.)  His shooting percentage and assists per game both we increased. Before the season, I felt that he needed to increase the assists numbers which he did.  Having seen point guards at SJU for about 40+ years, he is among the top three with Jackson and Barkley (also consider the players around those 2).  Statistically even with Barkley and ahead of Jackson at this point of their careers.  He is unique in his relentlessness.  I might be prejudiced as we are both Brooklyn guys.
BR I too am from Brooklyn and I too love Posh, but I don't think he is yet at the level of Barkley and certainly not MJ. Saying that he is not yet a star is no knock on him, he's a phenomenal basketball player and we are most fortunate to have him. But he is off injured, inconsistent and on at least 3 occasions, did not start for questionable reasons. I hope all those issues resolve themselves next season and he blossoms in to an all-american level player who can carry us most games. But until that happens, IMO he comes up short of being called a star. 

My goodness, Posh is incredible and any team in the country would be lucky to have him.  One of the biggest shames of this mess of a season is how Posh was simply made for this March madness national stage but it was not meant to be.  He would be an absolute darling right now if sju made a run. 


 
Did you actually read my post, or just cherry pick what you wanted from it. I said "Posh is PHENOMENAL basketball player". You're a smart guy I take it. Certainly you know what the word phenomenal means. 

I read it and we're not disagreeing in the slightest.  Take out the  "my goodness" from my post and that changes everything.  In fact, I think you and I see eye to eye on most posts as far as I can tell. 
 
 
Lots of discussion on here about whether Posh is in the class with Jackson and Barkley as pure PGs for the Johnnies.  I would only add that in order for Posh to ascend to those lofty heights, he first needs to surpass my personal favorite Johnnies PG - Greg "Boo" Harvey.  He's from Queens so he doesn't get the love from the Brooklyn crew on redmen.com (just kidding, boys), but he was a great Johnny.  Three buzzer-beaters his senior year and one of the best ballhandlers we've ever had.  Check the numbers.  He's third behind Jackson and Barkley if you're going from 1980 or so to the present.  (Leaving out Hatten and Ponds, since they were more combo guards than straight PGs.)  Sorry to get off topic...
 
Not going to get into the SJU PG comparisons or is Posh “great” “sensational” or “stupendous”.

Simply stated, in his two years he has demonstrated a lot and losing him would be major setback and a bad look that would not help recruiting. Mase made a great point about his end of game productivity, but isn’t that part and parcel of being a Sophomore who will improve by virtue of experience?  Next season this will be his team in a sense and I look forward to see him lead. Of course we need some more pieces around him and off season player development or I can see him getting frustrated. Let’s see what the staff comes up with.
 
There should be a prescription for antidepressants prior to reading this thread.

We are…doomed
 
Posh is as excellent player . He has exciting skills as a defender and playmaker .   His style on both ends of the Court is non stop and while he has great endurance , he does wear himself out on occasion .  Nevertheless, it’s been widely questioned why CMA took the ball out of his hands so often in key end of game situations .  Giving the ball to Wusu or Smith or Wheeler to make a play , doesn’t add up . But , that’s Anderson .          We need to get a true SG to compliment Posh and that will enhance his game  next year . It’s not Wusu in my opinion , who is valuable in other roles .  Pinzon ? Is he a drop dead shooter ? Maybe . We don’t know . Maybe it’s the kid Storr or , a stud transfer .       While I’m at it , CMA needs to not limit his Recruiting Net to just players who fit his style , whatever that is .    He needs shooters and todays game requires players who can shoot . And , one shooter on the Court at 1 time , is not enough .  Look at Nova , just about all their players can shoot . We haven’t had that luxury .   Posh will be very good again next year . Even better if we get better players around him .   
 
MainMan post=465400 said:
A reminder that Mark Jackson didn't become Mark Jackson until his junior year. 


Mark Jackson didn’t become Mike Moses until his junior year.
 
For a guy who supposedly can’t shoot, Posh was 4th in the BE in FG %, 49.8% (153 / 307 )

 
 
Knight post=465458 said:
For a guy who supposedly can’t shoot, Posh was 4th in the BE in FG %, 49.8% (153 / 307 )


 
Posh shot 67.5% on shots at the rim, 35.7% on mid to long range 2s, and 21.7% of 3s. His numbers essentially resemble those of poor-shooting bigs. He's excellent at finishing at the rim but his jumper is below average for a guard. Fortunately he has the mechanics for those numbers away from the rim to improve and while he will likely never be a sharpshooter, if he could improve his shot to the point where teams have to respect it more then his game will elevate to the next level.

Source of those stats: https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?year=2022&p=Posh%20Alexander&t=St.%20John%27s
 
Great stat site..thanks

In comparison to Posh 67.5% at the rim, Wusu was only 47.7%.
 
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RedStormNC post=465462 said:
Great stat site..thanks

In comparison to Posh 67.5% at the rim, Wusu was only 47.7%.

Posh does an amazing job crashing the offensive boards for put backs. Those put backs probably have a lot do with his high percentage at the rim compared to both Wusu and Mathis (whom was at 49.7% at the rim).
 
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