2019 NY Mets
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Spocky Ramone
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[quote="austour" post=355981]Panik on the streets of Willetts Point, Panik on the streets of Flushing, I wonder to myself. Could the Mets ever be good again?
Sorry, couldn't help myself.[/quote]
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
HANG THE CURVEBALL!
Sorry, couldn't help myself.[/quote]
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
HANG THE CURVEBALL!
[quote="Spocky Ramone" post=355983][quote="austour" post=355981]Panik on the streets of Willetts Point, Panik on the streets of Flushing, I wonder to myself. Could the Mets ever be good again?
Sorry, couldn't help myself.[/quote]
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
HANG THE CURVEBALL![/quote] glad the Mets and didn’t Panik
Sorry, couldn't help myself.[/quote]
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
Hang the curveball
HANG THE CURVEBALL![/quote] glad the Mets and didn’t Panik
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[quote="Logen" post=355999]2 games is nothing to go on, but first impression from someone who watches no AL baseball, Stroman looks very hittable, far from what I expected. I do assume he is much better than he has pitched in his first two starts.[/quote]
I agree. He has always been a high WHIP guy. Tends to walk the tightrope. I had this argument (discussion?) with someone when they picked him up. I said he profiles as a number 3 starter. They thought I was crazy. Think about it. For arguments sake, on the Mets he is behind deGrom (not even close), and Noah. We could debate Wheeler but let’s give him 3. Think about Nats he might be 3 or 4 again and so on.
Don’t get me wrong he’s good. Just a little overrated.
I agree. He has always been a high WHIP guy. Tends to walk the tightrope. I had this argument (discussion?) with someone when they picked him up. I said he profiles as a number 3 starter. They thought I was crazy. Think about it. For arguments sake, on the Mets he is behind deGrom (not even close), and Noah. We could debate Wheeler but let’s give him 3. Think about Nats he might be 3 or 4 again and so on.
Don’t get me wrong he’s good. Just a little overrated.
SJU2000alum15
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What a game a win like that really makes you think they are for real. A 4 run 9th Game tying three run homer by the toddfather then the Conforto walkoff!!! Even a single for Panik!!
[quote="SJU2000alum15" post=356006]What a game a win like that really makes you think they are for real. A 4 run 9th Game tying three run homer by the toddfather then the Conforto walkoff!!! Even a single for Panik!![/quote]
Almost feels like they will never lose again. Going to the bottom of the 9th I thought maybe the last run they gave up was going to kill them. But, when your winning you start thinking well if we can get a couple on and then boom there it goes. Strange feeling this winning thing.
Almost feels like they will never lose again. Going to the bottom of the 9th I thought maybe the last run they gave up was going to kill them. But, when your winning you start thinking well if we can get a couple on and then boom there it goes. Strange feeling this winning thing.
JackofVirginia
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[quote="Logen" post=355999]2 games is nothing to go on, but first impression from someone who watches no AL baseball, Stroman looks very hittable, far from what I expected. I do assume he is much better than he has pitched in his first two starts.[/quote]
Supposedly not a strikeout pitcher. Really depends on keeping his fastball low. Last night got hit when it was belt high. Have to love his enthusiasm.
Supposedly not a strikeout pitcher. Really depends on keeping his fastball low. Last night got hit when it was belt high. Have to love his enthusiasm.
JackofVirginia
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[quote="SJU2000alum15" post=356006]What a game a win like that really makes you think they are for real. A 4 run 9th Game tying three run homer by the toddfather then the Conforto walkoff!!! Even a single for Panik!![/quote]
Call me bias but wanted to hear more credit given to Panik. After all his hit in the ninth was the winning run.
Call me bias but wanted to hear more credit given to Panik. After all his hit in the ninth was the winning run.
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=356030][quote="Logen" post=355999]2 games is nothing to go on, but first impression from someone who watches no AL baseball, Stroman looks very hittable, far from what I expected. I do assume he is much better than he has pitched in his first two starts.[/quote]
Supposedly not a strikeout pitcher. Really depends on keeping his fastball low. Last night got hit when it was belt high. Have to love his enthusiasm.[/quote]
I don’t care about strikeouts except situationally but any pitcher at the ML level is going to get hit if the ball is belt high. I am certainly not judging him on two starts, just venting last night. Amazing game, you don’t win many when the oppositions first 5 batters total 12 hits and two walks. Ride this roll as long as you can.........
Supposedly not a strikeout pitcher. Really depends on keeping his fastball low. Last night got hit when it was belt high. Have to love his enthusiasm.[/quote]
I don’t care about strikeouts except situationally but any pitcher at the ML level is going to get hit if the ball is belt high. I am certainly not judging him on two starts, just venting last night. Amazing game, you don’t win many when the oppositions first 5 batters total 12 hits and two walks. Ride this roll as long as you can.........
Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.
JackofVirginia
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[quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=356074][quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]
I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]
I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.
[quote="Logen" post=356084][quote="JackofVirginia" post=356074][quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]
I agree with your belief that Syndergaard is frustrating and not pitching to full potential. However, in fairness, he is 8-5 which is second to Wheeler on the Mets who has 9 wins. Both more than de Grom with 7. His ERA is 3.89 which is below league average 4.51. Also Syndergaard is in a streak of 6 consecutive starts of at least 7 innings. I don’t believe anyone on our starting staff has done that this year. Clearly he is not as good as JD.
NS is also 26 years old. Much younger than JD. Lifetime he is 45-27 with a 3.15 ERA. I am not trying to change your mind but it seems his bar has been set really high. I’d be worried about replacing him. Is it possible this guy really puts it together at 27 or 28....
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]
I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.[/quote]
I agree with your belief that Syndergaard is frustrating and not pitching to full potential. However, in fairness, he is 8-5 which is second to Wheeler on the Mets who has 9 wins. Both more than de Grom with 7. His ERA is 3.89 which is below league average 4.51. Also Syndergaard is in a streak of 6 consecutive starts of at least 7 innings. I don’t believe anyone on our starting staff has done that this year. Clearly he is not as good as JD.
NS is also 26 years old. Much younger than JD. Lifetime he is 45-27 with a 3.15 ERA. I am not trying to change your mind but it seems his bar has been set really high. I’d be worried about replacing him. Is it possible this guy really puts it together at 27 or 28....
Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]
I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.[/quote]
So coach speak time. Mets obviously in the midst of a great run and as a lifelong, mostly suffering fan, I could not be happier they are in the mix. Two out of three from the Nationals is a good weekend any way you cut it. However, let’s not lose sight of THE glaring weakness that I think will eventually do them in, the bullpen. They gave up 8 runs from the 7th inning on in the three games which was masked by the two comebacks. Their starters need to go deeper into games, simple as that. deGrom done in today by a laborious 1st inning topped off by his horrible cover of first, the error was given to Alonso but to me clearly it was deGrom’s bad. Anyway, on to the Braves and hopefully, keeping it going.