2019 NY Mets

[quote="sjc88" post=356085][quote="Logen" post=356084][quote="JackofVirginia" post=356074][quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]

I agree with your belief that Syndergaard is frustrating and not pitching to full potential. However, in fairness, he is 8-5 which is second to Wheeler on the Mets who has 9 wins. Both more than de Grom with 7. His ERA is 3.89 which is below league average 4.51. Also Syndergaard is in a streak of 6 consecutive starts of at least 7 innings. I don’t believe anyone on our starting staff has done that this year. Clearly he is not as good as JD.

NS is also 26 years old. Much younger than JD. Lifetime he is 45-27 with a 3.15 ERA. I am not trying to change your mind but it seems his bar has been set really high. I’d be worried about replacing him. Is it possible this guy really puts it together at 27 or 28....


Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]

I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.[/quote][/quote]

sjc88, good points. I did not realize his lifetime ERA was that low, in fact looked it up because my initial reaction was “no way” but you are right on.
 
[quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=356092][quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz[/quote]
Please throw something decent
 
[quote="Logen" post=356089][quote="sjc88" post=356085][quote="Logen" post=356084][quote="JackofVirginia" post=356074][quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]

I agree with your belief that Syndergaard is frustrating and not pitching to full potential. However, in fairness, he is 8-5 which is second to Wheeler on the Mets who has 9 wins. Both more than de Grom with 7. His ERA is 3.89 which is below league average 4.51. Also Syndergaard is in a streak of 6 consecutive starts of at least 7 innings. I don’t believe anyone on our starting staff has done that this year. Clearly he is not as good as JD.

NS is also 26 years old. Much younger than JD. Lifetime he is 45-27 with a 3.15 ERA. I am not trying to change your mind but it seems his bar has been set really high. I’d be worried about replacing him. Is it possible this guy really puts it together at 27 or 28....


Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]

I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.[/quote][/quote]

sjc88, good points. I did not realize his lifetime ERA was that low, in fact looked it up because my initial reaction was “no way” but you are right on.[/quote]

Logan, maybe I just have Nolan Ryan Derangement Syndrome. LOL
 
Not that I should be complaining except for Diaz but something I dont think I've mentioned here is I find Todd Fraziers batting stance really annoying
 
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=356101]Not that I should be complaining except for Diaz but something I dont think I've mentioned here is I find Todd Fraziers batting stance really annoying[/quote]

Todd Frazier not holding on to the damn bat is really super, super annoying. Maybe St. John’s own Joe Panik can teach Todd how to hold the bat. Rutgers must not teach that! :p
 
[quote="Spocky Ramone" post=356098][quote="mjmaherjr" post=356092][quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz[/quote]
Please throw something decent[/quote]

How did he get 57 saves last year with a 1.96
and looks so bad this year with a 5.32 era this year?

Mets should put Lugo in the closer role, or is there a rule that Diaz can't lose his closer role?
 
[quote="sjc88" post=356100][quote="Logen" post=356089][quote="sjc88" post=356085][quote="Logen" post=356084][quote="JackofVirginia" post=356074][quote="Logen" post=356046]Now for Syndegaard, Sid Fernandez revisited, great stuff but has to nibble, nibble, nibble driving up the pitch count and forcing himself into situations where hitters know he has to throw a strike. Should be dominant if he had the seeds to trust his stuff and challenge hitters. Venting again but I have watched him enough to stand by my opinion.[/quote]

I agree with your belief that Syndergaard is frustrating and not pitching to full potential. However, in fairness, he is 8-5 which is second to Wheeler on the Mets who has 9 wins. Both more than de Grom with 7. His ERA is 3.89 which is below league average 4.51. Also Syndergaard is in a streak of 6 consecutive starts of at least 7 innings. I don’t believe anyone on our starting staff has done that this year. Clearly he is not as good as JD.

NS is also 26 years old. Much younger than JD. Lifetime he is 45-27 with a 3.15 ERA. I am not trying to change your mind but it seems his bar has been set really high. I’d be worried about replacing him. Is it possible this guy really puts it together at 27 or 28....


Have to believe he will be gone after the season, should be able to get enough talent. After all we do need to fill our farm system.[/quote]

I know nothing about the minors. All the “experts” missed on McNeil and Alonso so I will wait until guys come to the bigs. At the end of the day, Syndegaard is a little over .500 with around a 4.00 ERA. Much better stuff than that, much better. I guess like the NBA it is more about “potential” than results. Modern sports are passing me bye because to me it is about consistency, not radar guns and highlights.[/quote][/quote]

sjc88, good points. I did not realize his lifetime ERA was that low, in fact looked it up because my initial reaction was “no way” but you are right on.[/quote]

Logan, maybe I just have Nolan Ryan Derangement Syndrome. LOL[/quote]

I hear you and to clarify, I am not in favor of trading him. I just think he should be more aggressive in the strike zone.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=356105][quote="Spocky Ramone" post=356098][quote="mjmaherjr" post=356092][quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz[/quote]
Please throw something decent[/quote]

How did he get 57 saves last year with a 1.96
and looks so bad this year with a 5.32 era this year?

Mets should put Lugo in the closer role, or is there a rule that Diaz can't lose his closer role?[/quote]

Lugo has probably already been put in the closer role. He closed Game 2 of the Miami DH and Saturday night against Nats. He has some kind of partial tear in his arm similar, I believe to Tanaka. As he pitched two innings on Saturday he was not available on Sunday. So Diaz is no longer “locked” into that role.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=356115][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=356105][quote="Spocky Ramone" post=356098][quote="mjmaherjr" post=356092][quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz[/quote]
Please throw something decent[/quote]

How did he get 57 saves last year with a 1.96
and looks so bad this year with a 5.32 era this year?

Mets should put Lugo in the closer role, or is there a rule that Diaz can't lose his closer role?[/quote]

Lugo has probably already been put in the closer role. He closed Game 2 of the Miami DH and Saturday night against Nats. He has some kind of partial tear in his arm similar, I believe to Tanaka. As he pitched two innings on Saturday he was not available on Sunday. So Diaz is no longer “locked” into that role.[/quote]
Diaz has lost all confidence in his ability to pitch (his body language shows no confidence)--needs a sports shrink
 
I told my son, next time Diaz comes into the game we should walk over and sit behind the left field wall at Citifield . Almost certain to have a shot at a HR ball. :evil:

I think he’s given up a bomb in his last 4 appearances. That’s hard to do when you pitch one inning!
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=356124]On the plus side Famiglia appears to be regaining the confidence and ball movement he had in 2015[/quote]
This would be huge!
 
I am very pleased by the Mets recent performance. It has been a fun stretch. As we all know they have a very tough 15 game stretch coming up with 12 games against division leaders. If they can survive that then they finish the season with a much more reasonable 29 game stretch with 17 at home. There certainly have been a lot of woulda coulda shoulda moments this season so I hope we can at least hang in the wild card race for a little longer.
 
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[quote="Andrew" post=356135]I am very pleased by the Mets recent performance. It has been a fun stretch. As we all know they have a very tough 15 game stretch coming up with 12 games against division leaders. If they can survive that then they finish the season with a much more reasonable 29 game stretch with 17 at home. There certainly have been a lot of woulda coulda shoulda moments this season so I hope we can at least hang in the wild card race for a little longer.[/quote]

Just gotta go 500. On this 6 game trip. It's ok to lose 2 of 3 at Atlanta, just cannot get swept, then you gotta take atleast 2 of 3 at kc, or maybe swerp them, 3-3 road.trip is solid.
Then 9 game home stand vs clev, atl, and the cubs. Tough so would say go 5-4, but then you go wash, philly for a 6 game trip.
Thinking you gotta go atleast 6-3.on the home.stand.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=356115][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=356105][quote="Spocky Ramone" post=356098][quote="mjmaherjr" post=356092][quote="Tommy O 54" post=356088]Something needs to be done about Diaz hes terrible and might cost the playoffs this year....[/quote] I'm getting PTSD from him. Post Traumatic Stress Diaz[/quote]
Please throw something decent[/quote]

How did he get 57 saves last year with a 1.96
and looks so bad this year with a 5.32 era this year?

Mets should put Lugo in the closer role, or is there a rule that Diaz can't lose his closer role?[/quote]

Lugo has probably already been put in the closer role. He closed Game 2 of the Miami DH and Saturday night against Nats. He has some kind of partial tear in his arm similar, I believe to Tanaka. As he pitched two innings on Saturday he was not available on Sunday. So Diaz is no longer “locked” into that role.[/quote]

Calloway with a very questionable move last night bringing Lugo in the 7th with Matz having thrown only 79 pitches. Borderline panic / over-managing move IMO. Anyway, it didn’t work to say the least.
 
Yeah, even as a Yankee fan watching, that was a rough move. And then Darling defending it was tough to listen to. Saying he didn’t want to second guess the move, yet Gary Apple questioned it immediately. Nice reward for Matz creating/kick starting the offense and pitching his @ss off...turn it over to that bullpen prematurely. Hopefully they get a win today, but they could have used the one last night.
 
[quote="Jnaw17" post=356236]Yeah, even as a Yankee fan watching, that was a rough move. And then Darling defending it was tough to listen to. Saying he didn’t want to second guess the move, yet Gary Apple questioned it immediately. Nice reward for Matz creating/kick starting the offense and pitching his @ss off...turn it over to that bullpen prematurely. Hopefully they get a win today, but they could have used the one last night.[/quote]

Very glad the Mets made the move over the last few weeks and at least have generated some interest but in reality, they just give too many games away to be taken truly seriously. That doesn't mean I still won't be watching and rooting but..............................................
 
I haven’t seen anyone mention that Callaway also went too long with Lugo. Once he gave up the lead on multiple hits he needed to stop the bleeding. I get he doesn’t have great options but it was pretty clear Lugo did not have it. The mistake was highlighted when the Mets rallied. Too much to overcome.

Need to turn the page quickly.
 
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