2019 Coaching Changes

[quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=333725][quote="Eric Williamson" post=333307][quote="Mike Zaun" post=333291]Whomever we get to replace assistants, please don't make it Mullin's successor. They're assistants for a reason. If Mullin resigns or is let go after next year, we need to get a head coach.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure that every head coach started out as an assistant. Coaches have to get their start somewhere.[/quote]

My memory is that Jarvis was never an assistant coach in college. Went straight from Boston Latin where he has Ewing to GWU head coach.[/quote]

According to his wikipedia page, Jarvis started out as an assistant at Northeastern, and then Harvard, before getting the high school gig. He left that in 1985, to become the coach at BU. He went to GW in 1990.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=333727]Goodman
Le Moyne head coach Patrick Beilein is in the mix at both Niagara and Mercer, source told @Stadium. Beilein is the son of Michigan head coach John Beilein.[/quote]

I wonder if he considers a head coach in waiting role a step back.
 
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=333767][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?[/quote]

Football money can cover buyouts, which we don’t have the same resources. People can talk about donors and such and how we can spend their money but IMO it’s just a pipe dream. Also, though I don’t believe in it, I don’t see the school firing the face of their program. Both Drew and Johnson weren’t so lucky.

Anyone that thought Mullin could turn around this program in 4 years probably weren’t being honest with themselves. Of course it could be done but the likelihood for a new coach with no experience, with a top assistant with little to no experience and a recruiter with not many ties to the local recruiting scene wasn’t very high. Then the one member of the staff that had the most experience with some ties to the local recruiting area gets replaced with another assistant with no experience, etc.

So fans can go on and hope against hope that the new AD will fire Mullin but I think it’s just wasted energy.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=333767][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?[/quote]

Who is your post aimed at? I don't see anyone on here celebrating. In fact the majority want a change from what I read.

Our program is closer to being James Madison than Villanova at this point....
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=333727]Goodman
Le Moyne head coach Patrick Beilein is in the mix at both Niagara and Mercer, source told @Stadium. Beilein is the son of Michigan head coach John Beilein.[/quote]
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Patrick Beilein has achieved greater success at D2 LeMoyne than his father did.

Fairfield University is a possibility for Patrick Neiland.

A family member told me that the negative about Niagara is that it is Niagara University and he doubts anyone can win at Niagara University. That having been said Beilein has a large family in the Buffalo area. His mother is from the storied Neiland family of Buffalo which is the family the Spielberg movie “Saving Private Ryan” was based.
https://watchstadium.com/videos/john-beileins-connection-to-saving-private-ryan/
 
[quote="Room112" post=333821][quote="MJDinkins" post=333767][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?[/quote]

Who is your post aimed at? I don't see anyone on here celebrating. In fact the majority want a change from what I read.

Our program is closer to being James Madison than Villanova at this point....[/quote]

There were a handful of posts celebrating us being in postseason play. But most have been silent in the past few days because they're being drowned out.

Our program might be closer to James Madison than Villanova, but that's besides the original point. A red herring.
 
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=333817][quote="MJDinkins" post=333767][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641][quote="fordham96" post=333631][quote="Paultzman" post=333627]Vanderbilt has terminated Bryce Drew as head coach after just three years[/quote]

Wow lost Darius Garland to season ending injury, top PG. What did I just say about the SEC getting serious about basketball? 3 years, 1 NCAA and he is out.

Avery Johnson 4 years, 3 NIT's and 1 NCAA and he is out.[/quote]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?[/quote]

Football money can cover buyouts, which we don’t have the same resources. People can talk about donors and such and how we can spend their money but IMO it’s just a pipe dream. Also, though I don’t believe in it, I don’t see the school firing the face of their program. Both Drew and Johnson weren’t so lucky.

Anyone that thought Mullin could turn around this program in 4 years probably weren’t being honest with themselves. Of course it could be done but the likelihood for a new coach with no experience, with a top assistant with little to no experience and a recruiter with not many ties to the local recruiting scene wasn’t very high. Then the one member of the staff that had the most experience with some ties to the local recruiting area gets replaced with another assistant with no experience, etc.

So fans can go on and hope against hope that the new AD will fire Mullin but I think it’s just wasted energy.[/quote]

First of all, the school should've never hired Mullin in the first place. Lastly, you still haven't addressed my original point. Toe-tap as you may.
 
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[quote="otis" post=333833][quote="Paultzman" post=333727]Goodman
Le Moyne head coach Patrick Beilein is in the mix at both Niagara and Mercer, source told @Stadium. Beilein is the son of Michigan head coach John Beilein.[/quote]
—————
Patrick Beilein has achieved greater success at D2 LeMoyne than his father did.

Fairfield University is a possibility for Patrick Neiland.

A family member told me that the negative about Niagara is that it is Niagara University and he doubts anyone can win at Niagara University. That having been said Beilein has a large family in the Buffalo area. His mother is from the storied Neiland family of Buffalo which is the family the Spielberg movie “Saving Private Ryan” was based.
https://watchstadium.com/videos/john-beileins-connection-to-saving-private-ryan/[/quote]


As a tuition payer, please Fairfield step up!!!
 
[/quote]First of all, the school should've never hired Mullin in the first place. Lastly, you still haven't addressed my original point. Toe-tap as you may.[/quote]

I really hate admitting when I'm wrong and others are right, but I think you were right.

If anything I thought he'd be a maniac on the recruiting trail. we all remember what he said about going in the back down at city H.S.'s and all the good talk, but that really never happened.
Want to say he was at his brothers bed side? Ok, maybe last off season he was with Roddy, but why wasn't he at events 2 summers ago?
Then he tells his players not to go for offensive rebounds? So if you miss a shot, that's it? Hard to win like that.
The only reason we made the ncaa was because of a weak bubble lol, nothing else. If it was like any other season then we don't make it. We backed in, finishing 2-5 in the last 7 lol.

So Ponds, Clark are leaving. Maybe Heron and Simon are leaving. Trimble is leaving.
With just LJ returning, could we atleast duplicate this season? I doubt it.

Mullin has 2 more years, but we'll either have to extend him or let him go after next year, you can't keep him in his last year with an extension or he'll be a lame duck coach.

So yeah Dink, I'll admit, you were right.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=333919]Zags
John Thompson III is the 'leader' at Vanderbilt[/quote]

I guess they are OK with just OK.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=333852][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333817][quote="MJDinkins" post=333767][quote="stjohnnie75" post=333732][quote="MJDinkins" post=333641]

Both Johnson and Drew has also recently brought in highly-rated classes, too.

But nah..... Let's all celebrate crapping the bed as a play-in participant (like we're William & Mary or James Madison) only because we sucked three years ago, and totally ignore the red flags and pink elephant in the room.[/quote]

Only difference is that revenue from one football game could pay most of those buyouts. :)[/quote]

Yeah.... But what does that have to do with the rest of my post?[/quote]

Football money can cover buyouts, which we don’t have the same resources. People can talk about donors and such and how we can spend their money but IMO it’s just a pipe dream. Also, though I don’t believe in it, I don’t see the school firing the face of their program. Both Drew and Johnson weren’t so lucky.

Anyone that thought Mullin could turn around this program in 4 years probably weren’t being honest with themselves. Of course it could be done but the likelihood for a new coach with no experience, with a top assistant with little to no experience and a recruiter with not many ties to the local recruiting scene wasn’t very high. Then the one member of the staff that had the most experience with some ties to the local recruiting area gets replaced with another assistant with no experience, etc.

So fans can go on and hope against hope that the new AD will fire Mullin but I think it’s just wasted energy.[/quote]

First of all, the school should've never hired Mullin in the first place. Lastly, you still haven't addressed my original point. Toe-tap as you may.[/quote]

Lol at toe-tap. Not sure what your original point was but Agree 100% that someone with no coaching experience should not have been handed the job. Mullin would have had a better chance at success coaching in the NBA where he wouldn’t have to worry about everything else that goes into running a college program.
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=334143]Alabama has officially parted ways with Avery Johnson[/quote]

The nerve of a school parting ways with a coach who won 75 games in 4 years
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=334238]Cal has fired men’s basketball coach Wyking Jones.[/quote]

He got 2 years....

Good assistant candidate though...
 
[quote="fordham96" post=334242][quote="Paultzman" post=334238]Cal has fired men’s basketball coach Wyking Jones.[/quote]

He got 2 years....

Good assistant candidate though...[/quote]

Evidently they will target Jason Kidd...
 
[quote="fordham96" post=334247][quote="fordham96" post=334242][quote="Paultzman" post=334238]Cal has fired men’s basketball coach Wyking Jones.[/quote]

He got 2 years....

Good assistant candidate though...[/quote]

Evidently they will target Jason Kidd...[/quote]

Looks like the result of a player revolt too
 
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