2018/19 Schedule

[quote="MJDinkins" post=292566][quote="Room112" post=292549]We're approaching what looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in a couple of decades, and this board is borderline unreadable! So much complaining about the same topics over and over again. What's worse is when the usual suspects come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on. Between reading the constant unrealistic expectations and post after post filled with misery and complaining, I truly believe half of this board is more happy when things are bad and they can complain about it.[/quote]

What are these "unrealistic expectations" you continue to speak of? This is part of the deflection and tomfoolery I spoke of earlier. I can't recall anyone truly being unrealistic in their expectations.

We haven't had many "exciting seasons" in the past two decades (I'll admit), so I can probably count on one hand the "exciting seasons" we've had in the past two decades. Basically, you're stating this upcoming season will exceed any of Lavin's seasons, and we should be expecting a season similar to Jarvis' first two seasons at St. John's, right? Being this looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in two decades, eh? That's practically what you're conveying. Who's being unrealistic now?

Lastly, it's been mentioned on several occasions that most are looking forward to the '18'-'19 season, but there are concerns going forward. Several folks feel those concerns are legitimate and shouldn't be ignored. Those concerns aren't all related to what is going on on the court and sidelines.[/quote]

Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.
 
[quote="Room112" post=292577][quote="MJDinkins" post=292566][quote="Room112" post=292549]We're approaching what looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in a couple of decades, and this board is borderline unreadable! So much complaining about the same topics over and over again. What's worse is when the usual suspects come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on. Between reading the constant unrealistic expectations and post after post filled with misery and complaining, I truly believe half of this board is more happy when things are bad and they can complain about it.[/quote]

What are these "unrealistic expectations" you continue to speak of? This is part of the deflection and tomfoolery I spoke of earlier. I can't recall anyone truly being unrealistic in their expectations.

We haven't had many "exciting seasons" in the past two decades (I'll admit), so I can probably count on one hand the "exciting seasons" we've had in the past two decades. Basically, you're stating this upcoming season will exceed any of Lavin's seasons, and we should be expecting a season similar to Jarvis' first two seasons at St. John's, right? Being this looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in two decades, eh? That's practically what you're conveying. Who's being unrealistic now?

Lastly, it's been mentioned on several occasions that most are looking forward to the '18'-'19 season, but there are concerns going forward. Several folks feel those concerns are legitimate and shouldn't be ignored. Those concerns aren't all related to what is going on on the court and sidelines.[/quote]

Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

I have not seen one person on the entire forum who expects 5 stars to choose us. The only way I think we have a chance with ones like Lewis is if we hire Rice but we know how that's going. Even then, I would still think there's a good chance he wouldn't come. I've actually suggested we stop putting so much time and effort into these 5 stars...they don't want to stay home and they are being recruited by blue bloods. Whether it's Briscoe, Diallo, etc. we know how it works out almost every time. I'd rather focus on high 3 star and low 4 star guys who will stay 3-4 years. Is that unreasonable?

You fail to acknowledge the fact that DePaul...yes DePaul aka the only program which has been worse than us (but not by much outside of our big OOC wins) already has not one but two 4 star recruits for 2019. If they can do it, why can't we? Again, it was not that long ago when we were clearly above SH and PC but that has quickly changed. These are similar schools with similar resources (you could argue we have more resources).

Just imagine having a son and he comes home with a 65 on his Math test and after you demand better from him, he says "Dad, your expectations are unrealistic! I passed, so just let it play out and leave me alone!". You can either move the goalpost and give him a pat on the back for the 65 scraping by high school, or you can push him to be much better and improve himself so he can get into a good college.Everyone is still looking forward to the season but we notice there are cracks in the foundation. If we have a tournament year you will see a very, very happy fanbase.
 
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Just imagine you had a son who came home with a 65 average in math his freshman year, a 70 average his sophomore year, a 75 average his junior year, and was progressing towards a 80 plus average in his upcoming senior year, and you bash him for laziness and incompetence because he has not reached a A+.
 
[quote="AlBovino" post=292579]Just imagine you had a son who came home with a 65 average in math his freshman year, a 70 average his sophomore year, a 75 average his junior year, and was progressing towards a 80 plus average in his upcoming senior year, and you bash him for laziness and incompetence because he has not reached a A+.[/quote]

I would feel as if I failed him, because he's not getting into any good schools with those grades ;)
 
You're right. You would have failed your son by not recognizing his improvement and hard work. Instead you would be selfishly focused on unrealistic goals that despite hard work he may not be able to achieve.
 
You're on a message board of a team that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in 18 seasons. At times, you are going to see periods of frustration and negativity, rational or otherwise. Not sure what to tell you.
 
[quote="Room112" post=292577]
Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

This post is very rational. One of the most on point posts on this board in a long time. All of the CM apologists expected, and still to this day expect, him to unrealistically land these 5 star guys. Not going to happen for a bevy of reasons. Hope we get lucky with one here and there. But people need to temper their expectations, whether you like CM or not.
 
[quote="AlBovino" post=292581]You're right. You would have failed your son by not recognizing his improvement and hard work. Instead you would be selfishly focused on unrealistic goals that despite hard work he may not be able to achieve.[/quote]

You're operating from an assumption that the hypothetical son would not have the cognitive ability to do better. Obviously if there's a cognitive issue expectations get adjusted, but staying with the analogy, I think St. John's is more than capable, however stupid hires and stupid decisions or the lackthereof hold us back. Fixable things hold us back. That's why you see the frustration. It's a defeatist attitude to act like this is our ceiling.
 
[quote="Adam" post=292575]Earlier in this thread I compared next year's schedule with Georgetown's from last year. Literally the worst for any P6 team in decades. Ours is better, but not by much.

Here's another gem: Kansas St had by far the worst OOC of any Tournament team last year.
OOC Record: 11-2
OOC RPI: 137
OOC SOS: 327
OOC Opponent's Average RPI: 201

KSU finished 11-9 in the best conference (B12) and had a B12 Tournament win as well. They were a 9 seed with a 54 RPI.

The average OOC opponent's RPI for SJU next year would be 211 (based on how they performed this year- remember KSU's was 201). Meaning our OOC SOS will likely be WORSE than 327. If we go 11-2, that could mean an OOC RPI around 150. We may have to go around 13-5 in the Big East then in order to get a Top 50 RPI, since it won't be the #1 conference like the B12 was this year. And for what? To play in the 8/9 game?

This is honestly infuriating.[/quote]

Adam, you are correct. We have to go 13-5 or 14-4 in the Big East with the type of OOC schedule that we have. If Heron is eligible this team could definitely achieve that. I also think that a team like Temple is going to be much better than people think this year. so hopefully our OOC schedule gets a boost from Temple and maybe one other opponent having a better season than thought. Also, if we finish 13-5 or 14-4 in conference then we should be able to win the Big East Tournament on our home floor if we have that good a season. I agree, it's infuriating to be in this position but it's where we are so this is what we have to root for.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=292578][quote="Room112" post=292577][quote="MJDinkins" post=292566][quote="Room112" post=292549]We're approaching what looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in a couple of decades, and this board is borderline unreadable! So much complaining about the same topics over and over again. What's worse is when the usual suspects come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on. Between reading the constant unrealistic expectations and post after post filled with misery and complaining, I truly believe half of this board is more happy when things are bad and they can complain about it.[/quote]

What are these "unrealistic expectations" you continue to speak of? This is part of the deflection and tomfoolery I spoke of earlier. I can't recall anyone truly being unrealistic in their expectations.

We haven't had many "exciting seasons" in the past two decades (I'll admit), so I can probably count on one hand the "exciting seasons" we've had in the past two decades. Basically, you're stating this upcoming season will exceed any of Lavin's seasons, and we should be expecting a season similar to Jarvis' first two seasons at St. John's, right? Being this looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in two decades, eh? That's practically what you're conveying. Who's being unrealistic now?

Lastly, it's been mentioned on several occasions that most are looking forward to the '18'-'19 season, but there are concerns going forward. Several folks feel those concerns are legitimate and shouldn't be ignored. Those concerns aren't all related to what is going on on the court and sidelines.[/quote]

Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

I have not seen one person on the entire forum who expects 5 stars to choose us. The only way I think we have a chance with ones like Lewis is if we hire Rice but we know how that's going. Even then, I would still think there's a good chance he wouldn't come. I've actually suggested we stop putting so much time and effort into these 5 stars...they don't want to stay home and they are being recruited by blue bloods. Whether it's Briscoe, Diallo, etc. we know how it works out almost every time. I'd rather focus on high 3 star and low 4 star guys who will stay 3-4 years. Is that unreasonable?

You fail to acknowledge the fact that DePaul...yes DePaul aka the only program which has been worse than us (but not by much outside of our big OOC wins) already has not one but two 4 star recruits for 2019. If they can do it, why can't we? Again, it was not that long ago when we were clearly above SH and PC but that has quickly changed. These are similar schools with similar resources (you could argue we have more resources).

Just imagine having a son and he comes home with a 65 on his Math test and after you demand better from him, he says "Dad, your expectations are unrealistic! I passed, so just let it play out and leave me alone!". You can either move the goalpost and give him a pat on the back for the 65 scraping by high school, or you can push him to be much better and improve himself so he can get into a good college.Everyone is still looking forward to the season but we notice there are cracks in the foundation. If we have a tournament year you will see a very, very happy fanbase.[/quote]

Mike, you're forgetting that DePaul has brand new state of the art arena that they play in. Yes, we have MSG but we really don't play many games there anymore and Carnesecca Arena is horrible.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=292578][quote="Room112" post=292577][quote="MJDinkins" post=292566][quote="Room112" post=292549]We're approaching what looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in a couple of decades, and this board is borderline unreadable! So much complaining about the same topics over and over again. What's worse is when the usual suspects come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on. Between reading the constant unrealistic expectations and post after post filled with misery and complaining, I truly believe half of this board is more happy when things are bad and they can complain about it.[/quote]

What are these "unrealistic expectations" you continue to speak of? This is part of the deflection and tomfoolery I spoke of earlier. I can't recall anyone truly being unrealistic in their expectations.

We haven't had many "exciting seasons" in the past two decades (I'll admit), so I can probably count on one hand the "exciting seasons" we've had in the past two decades. Basically, you're stating this upcoming season will exceed any of Lavin's seasons, and we should be expecting a season similar to Jarvis' first two seasons at St. John's, right? Being this looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in two decades, eh? That's practically what you're conveying. Who's being unrealistic now?

Lastly, it's been mentioned on several occasions that most are looking forward to the '18'-'19 season, but there are concerns going forward. Several folks feel those concerns are legitimate and shouldn't be ignored. Those concerns aren't all related to what is going on on the court and sidelines.[/quote]

Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

I have not seen one person on the entire forum who expects 5 stars to choose us. The only way I think we have a chance with ones like Lewis is if we hire Rice but we know how that's going. Even then, I would still think there's a good chance he wouldn't come. I've actually suggested we stop putting so much time and effort into these 5 stars...they don't want to stay home and they are being recruited by blue bloods. Whether it's Briscoe, Diallo, etc. we know how it works out almost every time. I'd rather focus on high 3 star and low 4 star guys who will stay 3-4 years. Is that unreasonable?

You fail to acknowledge the fact that DePaul...yes DePaul aka the only program which has been worse than us (but not by much outside of our big OOC wins) already has not one but two 4 star recruits for 2019. If they can do it, why can't we? Again, it was not that long ago when we were clearly above SH and PC but that has quickly changed. These are similar schools with similar resources (you could argue we have more resources).

Just imagine having a son and he comes home with a 65 on his Math test and after you demand better from him, he says "Dad, your expectations are unrealistic! I passed, so just let it play out and leave me alone!". You can either move the goalpost and give him a pat on the back for the 65 scraping by high school, or you can push him to be much better and improve himself so he can get into a good college.Everyone is still looking forward to the season but we notice there are cracks in the foundation. If we have a tournament year you will see a very, very happy fanbase.[/quote]

Dude, using your example, the son has been getting a 65 in math for 20 years now, and you still demand him to score higher lol. The program is what it is. There I no moving of goalposts.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=292586][quote="Mike Zaun" post=292578][quote="Room112" post=292577][quote="MJDinkins" post=292566][quote="Room112" post=292549]We're approaching what looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in a couple of decades, and this board is borderline unreadable! So much complaining about the same topics over and over again. What's worse is when the usual suspects come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on. Between reading the constant unrealistic expectations and post after post filled with misery and complaining, I truly believe half of this board is more happy when things are bad and they can complain about it.[/quote]

What are these "unrealistic expectations" you continue to speak of? This is part of the deflection and tomfoolery I spoke of earlier. I can't recall anyone truly being unrealistic in their expectations.

We haven't had many "exciting seasons" in the past two decades (I'll admit), so I can probably count on one hand the "exciting seasons" we've had in the past two decades. Basically, you're stating this upcoming season will exceed any of Lavin's seasons, and we should be expecting a season similar to Jarvis' first two seasons at St. John's, right? Being this looks to be one of our most exciting seasons in two decades, eh? That's practically what you're conveying. Who's being unrealistic now?

Lastly, it's been mentioned on several occasions that most are looking forward to the '18'-'19 season, but there are concerns going forward. Several folks feel those concerns are legitimate and shouldn't be ignored. Those concerns aren't all related to what is going on on the court and sidelines.[/quote]

Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

I have not seen one person on the entire forum who expects 5 stars to choose us. The only way I think we have a chance with ones like Lewis is if we hire Rice but we know how that's going. Even then, I would still think there's a good chance he wouldn't come. I've actually suggested we stop putting so much time and effort into these 5 stars...they don't want to stay home and they are being recruited by blue bloods. Whether it's Briscoe, Diallo, etc. we know how it works out almost every time. I'd rather focus on high 3 star and low 4 star guys who will stay 3-4 years. Is that unreasonable?

You fail to acknowledge the fact that DePaul...yes DePaul aka the only program which has been worse than us (but not by much outside of our big OOC wins) already has not one but two 4 star recruits for 2019. If they can do it, why can't we? Again, it was not that long ago when we were clearly above SH and PC but that has quickly changed. These are similar schools with similar resources (you could argue we have more resources).

Just imagine having a son and he comes home with a 65 on his Math test and after you demand better from him, he says "Dad, your expectations are unrealistic! I passed, so just let it play out and leave me alone!". You can either move the goalpost and give him a pat on the back for the 65 scraping by high school, or you can push him to be much better and improve himself so he can get into a good college.Everyone is still looking forward to the season but we notice there are cracks in the foundation. If we have a tournament year you will see a very, very happy fanbase.[/quote]

Mike, you're forgetting that DePaul has brand new state of the art arena that they play in. Yes, we have MSG but we really don't play many games there anymore and Carnesecca Arena is horrible.[/quote]

Can anyone argue the point that we have the worst facilities in the league? No I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm just trying to be realistic. I'm not a Mullin fan or apologist, I'm not even a St John's grad!! I just want to see the team win and will be realistic about the chances of that happening in the meantime. I'm looking forward to a very exciting season with a team that is more talented than any we've had in many years.
 
[quote="Chris7" post=292583][quote="Room112" post=292577]
Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

This post is very rational. One of the most on point posts on this board in a long time. All of the CM apologists expected, and still to this day expect, him to unrealistically land these 5 star guys. Not going to happen for a bevy of reasons. Hope we get lucky with one here and there. But people need to temper their expectations, whether you like CM or not.[/quote]

The problem isn't just that we aren't landing the 5 star guys. It's that we are spending a ton of time recruiting the 5 star guys and then not landing them. If it is very unlikely that we land those premium guys, why do we keep spending more and more time chasing them. Adapt. Use the extra time to latch on to some mid to low level 4 star guys and build those relationships. Or use the time on player development. You can't spend as much time as we are spending on recruiting these kids and then say it's not our fault we aren't #closing on them because of factors out of our control. Makes no sense.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292591][quote="Chris7" post=292583][quote="Room112" post=292577]
Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

This post is very rational. One of the most on point posts on this board in a long time. All of the CM apologists expected, and still to this day expect, him to unrealistically land these 5 star guys. Not going to happen for a bevy of reasons. Hope we get lucky with one here and there. But people need to temper their expectations, whether you like CM or not.[/quote]

The problem isn't just that we aren't landing the 5 star guys. It's that we are spending a ton of time recruiting the 5 star guys and then not landing them. If it is very unlikely that we land those premium guys, why do we keep spending more and more time chasing them. Adapt. Use the extra time to latch on to some mid to low level 4 star guys and build those relationships. Or use the time on player development. You can't spend as much time as we are spending on recruiting these kids and then say it's not our fault we aren't #closing on them because of factors out of our control. Makes no sense.[/quote]

If we don't recruit 5 star guys then there will be complaints on here as to why we are not and we should consider being a mid major school. Im not making this up.
 
Georgetown was in a total rebuild and no one expected them to make a tourney. An easy schedule gave them confidence w no adverse affect. The reason fans are upset is we are hoping to make the dance. It is no secret the NCAA uses strength of schedule as a criteria , they also factor in away games and neutral games. Fans are wondering why the schedule is made up in a way that will not help us w out tourney chances or seeding.
 
[quote="Room112" post=292592][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292591][quote="Chris7" post=292583][quote="Room112" post=292577]
Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

This post is very rational. One of the most on point posts on this board in a long time. All of the CM apologists expected, and still to this day expect, him to unrealistically land these 5 star guys. Not going to happen for a bevy of reasons. Hope we get lucky with one here and there. But people need to temper their expectations, whether you like CM or not.[/quote]

The problem isn't just that we aren't landing the 5 star guys. It's that we are spending a ton of time recruiting the 5 star guys and then not landing them. If it is very unlikely that we land those premium guys, why do we keep spending more and more time chasing them. Adapt. Use the extra time to latch on to some mid to low level 4 star guys and build those relationships. Or use the time on player development. You can't spend as much time as we are spending on recruiting these kids and then say it's not our fault we aren't #closing on them because of factors out of our control. Makes no sense.[/quote]

If we don't recruit 5 star guys then there will be complaints on here as to why we are not and we should consider being a mid major school. Im not making this up.[/quote]

Well I agree with you that isn't fair. There are a plenty of high major, consistently successful programs that aren't spending weeks upon weeks sweating the 5 stars. Personally I think we have spent too much time. I think it becomes a different story if and when we become a consistent winner, but way too many factors working against us already and until we show we can win it's almost impossible to land these 5 star types. And not wasting time on hail mary's does not make us a mid major, it makes us smart.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=292593]Georgetown was in a total rebuild and no one expected them to make a tourney. An easy schedule gave them confidence w no adverse affect. The reason fans are upset is we are hoping to make the dance. It is no secret the NCAA uses strength of schedule as a criteria , they also factor in away games and neutral games. Fans are wondering why the schedule is made up in a way that will not help us w out tourney chances or seeding.[/quote]

Honestly of all the separate discussions going on simultaneously on this thread, i can't believe this one is still going on. The schedule is pitiful. That's not up for debate. The staff did a terrible job putting it together. Can we move on to something else?
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=292585][quote="Adam" post=292575]Earlier in this thread I compared next year's schedule with Georgetown's from last year. Literally the worst for any P6 team in decades. Ours is better, but not by much.

Here's another gem: Kansas St had by far the worst OOC of any Tournament team last year.
OOC Record: 11-2
OOC RPI: 137
OOC SOS: 327
OOC Opponent's Average RPI: 201

KSU finished 11-9 in the best conference (B12) and had a B12 Tournament win as well. They were a 9 seed with a 54 RPI.

The average OOC opponent's RPI for SJU next year would be 211 (based on how they performed this year- remember KSU's was 201). Meaning our OOC SOS will likely be WORSE than 327. If we go 11-2, that could mean an OOC RPI around 150. We may have to go around 13-5 in the Big East then in order to get a Top 50 RPI, since it won't be the #1 conference like the B12 was this year. And for what? To play in the 8/9 game?

This is honestly infuriating.[/quote]

Adam, you are correct. We have to go 13-5 or 14-4 in the Big East with the type of OOC schedule that we have. If Heron is eligible this team could definitely achieve that. I also think that a team like Temple is going to be much better than people think this year. so hopefully our OOC schedule gets a boost from Temple and maybe one other opponent having a better season than thought. Also, if we finish 13-5 or 14-4 in conference then we should be able to win the Big East Tournament on our home floor if we have that good a season. I agree, it's infuriating to be in this position but it's where we are so this is what we have to root for.[/quote]

I'm noticing you continue to say "if Heron is eligible," then we should be able to do such and such. What if he isn't granted eligibility?

If we finish with 13 or 14 conference wins, it doesn't automatically mean we're going to win the Big East tournament. One would assume we'd give ourselves a great chance of doing so, but doesn't necessarily mean we would.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292594][quote="Room112" post=292592][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292591][quote="Chris7" post=292583][quote="Room112" post=292577]
Unrealistic expectations around recrutiing. I keep reading comments of many who are expecting 5 star recruits to choose us. This isn't 1998.[/quote]

This post is very rational. One of the most on point posts on this board in a long time. All of the CM apologists expected, and still to this day expect, him to unrealistically land these 5 star guys. Not going to happen for a bevy of reasons. Hope we get lucky with one here and there. But people need to temper their expectations, whether you like CM or not.[/quote]

The problem isn't just that we aren't landing the 5 star guys. It's that we are spending a ton of time recruiting the 5 star guys and then not landing them. If it is very unlikely that we land those premium guys, why do we keep spending more and more time chasing them. Adapt. Use the extra time to latch on to some mid to low level 4 star guys and build those relationships. Or use the time on player development. You can't spend as much time as we are spending on recruiting these kids and then say it's not our fault we aren't #closing on them because of factors out of our control. Makes no sense.[/quote]

If we don't recruit 5 star guys then there will be complaints on here as to why we are not and we should consider being a mid major school. Im not making this up.[/quote]

Well I agree with you that isn't fair. There are a plenty of high major, consistently successful programs that aren't spending weeks upon weeks sweating the 5 stars. Personally I think we have spent too much time. I think it becomes a different story if and when we become a consistent winner, but way too many factors working against us already and until we show we can win it's almost impossible to land these 5 star types. And not wasting time on hail mary's does not make us a mid major, it makes us smart.[/quote]

Once again, I don't recall any poster having serious expectations of bringing in a 5-star talent. This is simply deflection if you ask me.

Besides, who said we can't land a 5-star kid every now and again? That's a defeatist attitude. If Wake Forest and Alabama can do it, then so shall we. Actually, Cockburn is the only 5-star in the '19 class that anyone believe we have a possible chance of landing. So, I don't understand where all the gnashing of teeth on this subject is stemming.
 
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[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292595][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=292593]Georgetown was in a total rebuild and no one expected them to make a tourney. An easy schedule gave them confidence w no adverse affect. The reason fans are upset is we are hoping to make the dance. It is no secret the NCAA uses strength of schedule as a criteria , they also factor in away games and neutral games. Fans are wondering why the schedule is made up in a way that will not help us w out tourney chances or seeding.[/quote]

Honestly of all the separate discussions going on simultaneously on this thread, i can't believe this one is still going on. The schedule is pitiful. That's not up for debate. The staff did a terrible job putting it together. Can we move on to something else?[/quote]

You are complaining that someone is writing about the schedule in a thread titled 2018/19 schedule. Maybe you should open a thread titled "We Can't Close" and post in that one thirty times a day instead of hijacking every other thread. Or you could move on to something else, but I won't tell you to do that. It's up to you.
 
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