2012/13 roster

[Class of 72]

When is Hooper available? Early 2013?

 
Fall 2013..Has to sit this whole year

  Thanks. That's what I thought but we have to hold a schollie for him the entire season he is not here?

 

Yea, if a player is at a school to play ball he has to assume a scholarship regardless of if he's playing or sitting out.

 

I don't believe Hooper is getting a scholarship.

 

Well lets see it when the class is announced. For all those who have picked up on our committs including a guy like Zags there has been no mention thus far. But until then we have to assume he is, however he seems to be the most likely to clear space.

  Maybe he is getting a schollie but of the academic kind.. he is coming from Harvard so he must know a few things.

 


This has been discussed on this site before
Amir Garrett's scholarship is being paid by the Cincinnati Reds, but it counts against the 13 limit
If Hooper gets an academic scholarship, that would count against the 13 limit as well
The only way he wouldn't count amomng the 13 was if he was a walkon and paid for his education at St John's 

 

Not true. We recruited Garrett which is different and he is a pro athlete. Different set of rules. If we followed the rules, Hooper as a transfer probably does qualify for an academic scholarship. My gut tells me that Hooper likely won't be using an athletic ship at SJU. We just have to wait and find out. That would be great for SJU as well as Hooper. Get a solid player and terrific shooter and not use an athletic ship for him.

 

How many academic schollies do you see? Not many I don't think. Walking on and paying his own way seems to be the easiest avenue when you put two and two together 

 

Harvard does not grant athletic ships......just academic. The 13 scholie limit only applies to Harvard for those players that were recruited (contacted re. Playing BB). If a player contacts the school but is not offered an athletic scholarship, he can walk on. That same player may apply for an academic scholarship as far as I know. Anyone have an NCAA rule on this?

 

[Moose]

When is Hooper available? Early 2013?

 
Fall 2013..Has to sit this whole year

  Thanks. That's what I thought but we have to hold a schollie for him the entire season he is not here?

 

Yea, if a player is at a school to play ball he has to assume a scholarship regardless of if he's playing or sitting out.

 

I don't believe Hooper is getting a scholarship.

 

Well lets see it when the class is announced. For all those who have picked up on our committs including a guy like Zags there has been no mention thus far. But until then we have to assume he is, however he seems to be the most likely to clear space.

  Maybe he is getting a schollie but of the academic kind.. he is coming from Harvard so he must know a few things.

 


This has been discussed on this site before
Amir Garrett's scholarship is being paid by the Cincinnati Reds, but it counts against the 13 limit
If Hooper gets an academic scholarship, that would count against the 13 limit as well
The only way he wouldn't count amomng the 13 was if he was a walkon and paid for his education at St John's 

 

Not true. We recruited Garrett which is different and he is a pro athlete. Different set of rules. If we followed the rules, Hooper as a transfer probably does qualify for an academic scholarship. My gut tells me that Hooper likely won't be using an athletic ship at SJU. We just have to wait and find out. That would be great for SJU as well as Hooper. Get a solid player and terrific shooter and not use an athletic ship for him.

 

How many academic schollies do you see? Not many I don't think. Walking on and paying his own way seems to be the easiest avenue when you put two and two together 

 

Harvard does not grant athletic ships......just academic. The 13 scholie limit only applies to Harvard for those players that were recruited (contacted re. Playing BB). If a player contacts the school but is not offered an athletic scholarship, he can walk on. That same player may apply for an academic scholarship as far as I know. Anyone have an NCAA rule on this?

 

I was more looking for non Ivy example. 330 D1 schools and I don't recall many examples. And you would think some school would have abused it by now. That's what leads me to think walking on is the only realistic way

 

[MCNPA]

When is Hooper available? Early 2013?

 
Fall 2013..Has to sit this whole year

  Thanks. That's what I thought but we have to hold a schollie for him the entire season he is not here?

 

Yea, if a player is at a school to play ball he has to assume a scholarship regardless of if he's playing or sitting out.

 

I don't believe Hooper is getting a scholarship.

 

Well lets see it when the class is announced. For all those who have picked up on our committs including a guy like Zags there has been no mention thus far. But until then we have to assume he is, however he seems to be the most likely to clear space.

  Maybe he is getting a schollie but of the academic kind.. he is coming from Harvard so he must know a few things.

 


This has been discussed on this site before
Amir Garrett's scholarship is being paid by the Cincinnati Reds, but it counts against the 13 limit
If Hooper gets an academic scholarship, that would count against the 13 limit as well
The only way he wouldn't count amomng the 13 was if he was a walkon and paid for his education at St John's 

 

Not true. We recruited Garrett which is different and he is a pro athlete. Different set of rules. If we followed the rules, Hooper as a transfer probably does qualify for an academic scholarship. My gut tells me that Hooper likely won't be using an athletic ship at SJU. We just have to wait and find out. That would be great for SJU as well as Hooper. Get a solid player and terrific shooter and not use an athletic ship for him.

 

How many academic schollies do you see? Not many I don't think. Walking on and paying his own way seems to be the easiest avenue when you put two and two together 

 

Harvard does not grant athletic ships......just academic. The 13 scholie limit only applies to Harvard for those players that were recruited (contacted re. Playing BB). If a player contacts the school but is not offered an athletic scholarship, he can walk on. That same player may apply for an academic scholarship as far as I know. Anyone have an NCAA rule on this?

 

I was more looking for non Ivy example. 330 D1 schools and I don't recall many examples. And you would think some school would have abused it by now. That's what leads me to think walking on is the only realistic way

 

I certainly think he could be walking on. Money is not an issue in any way for his family. Maybe he just wanted to follow Jakarr and play ball at SJU. I wouldn't doubt that he could walk on and get a scholarship next year or after should we have one open. Regardless, happy to have him aboard. Good smart kid, good shooter and will be a valuable addition.

 

[MCNPA]

When is Hooper available? Early 2013?

 
Fall 2013..Has to sit this whole year

  Thanks. That's what I thought but we have to hold a schollie for him the entire season he is not here?

 

Yea, if a player is at a school to play ball he has to assume a scholarship regardless of if he's playing or sitting out.

 

I don't believe Hooper is getting a scholarship.

 


Well lets see it when the class is announced. For all those who have picked up on our committs including a guy like Zags there has been no mention thus far. But until then we have to assume he is, however he seems to be the most likely to clear space.

  Maybe he is getting a schollie but of the academic kind.. he is coming from Harvard so he must know a few things.

 


This has been discussed on this site before
Amir Garrett's scholarship is being paid by the Cincinnati Reds, but it counts against the 13 limit
If Hooper gets an academic scholarship, that would count against the 13 limit as well
The only way he wouldn't count amomng the 13 was if he was a walkon and paid for his education at St John's 

 

Not true. We recruited Garrett which is different and he is a pro athlete. Different set of rules. If we followed the rules, Hooper as a transfer probably does qualify for an academic scholarship. My gut tells me that Hooper likely won't be using an athletic ship at SJU. We just have to wait and find out. That would be great for SJU as well as Hooper. Get a solid player and terrific shooter and not use an athletic ship for him.

 

How many academic schollies do you see? Not many I don't think. Walking on and paying his own way seems to be the easiest avenue when you put two and two together 

 

Harvard does not grant athletic ships......just academic. The 13 scholie limit only applies to Harvard for those players that were recruited (contacted re. Playing BB). If a player contacts the school but is not offered an athletic scholarship, he can walk on. That same player may apply for an academic scholarship as far as I know. Anyone have an NCAA rule on this?

 

I was more looking for non Ivy example. 330 D1 schools and I don't recall many examples. And you would think some school would have abused it by now. That's what leads me to think walking on is the only realistic way

 

I do wonder if there is some sort of caveat considering he's coming from an Ivy who doesn't offer athletic ships. I think he probably could be treated as any joe schmo regular student and qualify for academic ship considering he's not coming off athletic ship from the school he's transferring from. 

He's coming from Harvard with essentially walk-on status at Harvard. He should probably be eligible for academic ship.

 

[Class of 72]

When is Hooper available? Early 2013?

 
Fall 2013..Has to sit this whole year

  Thanks. That's what I thought but we have to hold a schollie for him the entire season he is not here?

 

Yea, if a player is at a school to play ball he has to assume a scholarship regardless of if he's playing or sitting out.

 

I don't believe Hooper is getting a scholarship.

 


Well lets see it when the class is announced. For all those who have picked up on our committs including a guy like Zags there has been no mention thus far. But until then we have to assume he is, however he seems to be the most likely to clear space.

  Maybe he is getting a schollie but of the academic kind.. he is coming from Harvard so he must know a few things.

 


This has been discussed on this site before
Amir Garrett's scholarship is being paid by the Cincinnati Reds, but it counts against the 13 limit
If Hooper gets an academic scholarship, that would count against the 13 limit as well
The only way he wouldn't count amomng the 13 was if he was a walkon and paid for his education at St John's 

 

Not true. We recruited Garrett which is different and he is a pro athlete. Different set of rules. If we followed the rules, Hooper as a transfer probably does qualify for an academic scholarship. My gut tells me that Hooper likely won't be using an athletic ship at SJU. We just have to wait and find out. That would be great for SJU as well as Hooper. Get a solid player and terrific shooter and not use an athletic ship for him.

 

How many academic schollies do you see? Not many I don't think. Walking on and paying his own way seems to be the easiest avenue when you put two and two together 

 

Harvard does not grant athletic ships......just academic. The 13 scholie limit only applies to Harvard for those players that were recruited (contacted re. Playing BB). If a player contacts the school but is not offered an athletic scholarship, he can walk on. That same player may apply for an academic scholarship as far as I know. Anyone have an NCAA rule on this?

 

I was more looking for non Ivy example. 330 D1 schools and I don't recall many examples. And you would think some school would have abused it by now. That's what leads me to think walking on is the only realistic way

 

I do wonder if there is some sort of caveat considering he's coming from an Ivy who doesn't offer athletic ships. I think he probably could be treated as any joe schmo regular student and qualify for academic ship considering he's not coming off athletic ship from the school he's transferring from. 

He's coming from Harvard with essentially walk-on status at Harvard. He should probably be eligible for academic ship.

 

I found this on hoop recruiter.com:

While it is not necessarily easy to obtain academic scholarships, this is something you have more control over.  As you make good grades and achieve a higher GPA and make a quality score on the SAT or ACT, you reach criteria for all kinds of scholarships and grants.  There are many different scholarships available and the rules and guidelines for each are made known to each applicant.  Being a diligent student has always been – and will continue to be – your primary means of getting to college and achieving success. If you have the grades and test scores to get academic scholarships, this often times allows coaches to use athletic scholarships on players who may not meet those criteria.  While these are just approximate numbers, a student generally must have a 3.0 GPA, 25 ACT and or 1200 SAT score and rank in the top 10% of their class for academic scholarships.  Understand that these are estimates and depend on the school. For athletic scholarships, there is a limit to the number of scholarships that can be given, the amount that is available and the schools that can give them.  There really aren’t set guidelines and standards on who will get athletic scholarships so college coaches give them out to athletes who fit their specific criteria.

 

[MCNPA]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

[Class of 72]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

[Moose]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

Exactly. Jamal White transferred from LIU to walk on at STJ. D1 to D1 regardless you have to sit, unless of course your dog is sick

 

[johnsliva]

Is it not ironic that 2 months ago people were complaining that we had no recruits and now we are complaining we have no ships.

In Lavin we Trust.  

 

[redmannorth]

Is it not ironic that 2 months ago people were complaining that we had no recruits and now we are complaining we have no ships.

In Lavin we Trust.  

 

Lavin has always been a fantastic recruiter but yet certain of the brain trust on this site thought it necessary to knock his every move even though he kept saying he would bring in a very good class.

 

[MCNPA]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

Exactly. Jamal White transferred from LIU to walk on at STJ. D1 to D1 regardless you have to sit, unless of course your dog is sick

 

Misspoke about playing this year. Meant next year. My point was about academic ship vs walking on. Jamal was on athletic ship, correct?

 

[Moose]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

Exactly. Jamal White transferred from LIU to walk on at STJ. D1 to D1 regardless you have to sit, unless of course your dog is sick

 

Misspoke about playing this year. Meant next year. My point was about academic ship vs walking on. Jamal was on athletic ship, correct?

 

This year he was. Not the previous 2 years

 

[MCNPA]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

Exactly. Jamal White transferred from LIU to walk on at STJ. D1 to D1 regardless you have to sit, unless of course your dog is sick

 

Misspoke about playing this year. Meant next year. My point was about academic ship vs walking on. Jamal was on athletic ship, correct?

 

This year he was. Not the previous 2 years

  I meant at LIU.

 

[Moose]

 Max hooper had a 4.7 GPA at Mater Dei. He falls into the top 0.5% of SJU students. I'm betting he easily qualifies for academic ship out of Harvard and suits up this season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see NCAA having any issue with this one.

 

If he was recruited by Amaker, he has to sit out a year like any other transfer.

 

Exactly. Jamal White transferred from LIU to walk on at STJ. D1 to D1 regardless you have to sit, unless of course your dog is sick

 

Misspoke about playing this year. Meant next year. My point was about academic ship vs walking on. Jamal was on athletic ship, correct?

 

This year he was. Not the previous 2 years

  I meant at LIU.

 

Yes he was

 

[tom in salem]

 Senior: God’s Gift C


Junior: Orlando Sanchez C/PF


Sophs: D’Angelo Harrison 2G
Phil Greene G
Jamel Branch PG
Amir Garrett SF
Dominic Pointer SF
Marco Bourgault 2G


Frosh: Jakaar Sampson PF
Chris Obepka C
Felix Balamou 2G  
Christian Jones PF 

 

[rawdognyc]

 Senior: God’s Gift C


Junior: Orlando Sanchez C/PF


Sophs: D’Angelo Harrison 2G
Phil Greene G
Jamel Branch PG
Amir Garrett SF
Dominic Pointer SF
Marco Bourgault 2G


Frosh: Jakaar Sampson PF
Chris Obepka C
Felix Balamou 2G  

 
Any word on darrick? I saw a tweet from him today that makes it sound like he plans on being part of the team next year

 

[MJDinkins]

 Senior: God’s Gift C


Junior: Orlando Sanchez C/PF


Sophs: D’Angelo Harrison 2G
Phil Greene G
Jamel Branch PG
Amir Garrett SF
Dominic Pointer SF
Marco Bourgault 2G


Frosh: Jakaar Sampson PF
Chris Obepka C
Felix Balamou 2G  

 
Any word on darrick? I saw a tweet from him today that makes it sound like he plans on being part of the team next year

 

Not sure about Wood, as far as being a part of our 2012-2013 squad. I'd love to have him eligible, as he's a kid who can put the ball in the hole. I think he'll certainly play for us, but not sure whether it'll be the upcoming season or the season after.

 

[LINY89]

 Not sure about his status, but even if he has to wait I'm sure he will stay...after getting CO he must realize this is a top 5 big east team in terms of potential. With Cuse, Pitt, and WVU leaving the Big East, SJ can really start to establish top 3 dominance and hang with GTown, and Nova.

 

[MCNPA]

 Not sure about his status, but even if he has to wait I'm sure he will stay...after getting CO he must realize this is a top 5 big east team in terms of potential. With Cuse, Pitt, and WVU leaving the Big East, SJ can really start to establish top 3 dominance and hang with GTown, and Nova.

 

Fwiw, Wood tweeting he starts in July and is tweeting with a buddy abut pickup games between SJU and HU(Hofstra?). If I had to guess, it seems like he is/expects to be qualified. If we have Wood entering this season in addition to Obekpa we can be fantastic this year. I think it also means that Lavin expects D'Lo to declare pro after ts season which wouldn't surprise me. I wish the best for the kid if that is the case.

 

[redmannorth]

 Not sure about his status, but even if he has to wait I'm sure he will stay...after getting CO he must realize this is a top 5 big east team in terms of potential. With Cuse, Pitt, and WVU leaving the Big East, SJ can really start to establish top 3 dominance and hang with GTown, and Nova.

 

Fwiw, Wood tweeting he starts in July and is tweeting with a buddy abut pickup games between SJU and HU(Hofstra?). If I had to guess, it seems like he is/expects to be qualified. If we have Wood entering this season in addition to Obekpa we can be fantastic this year. I think it also means that Lavin expects D'Lo to declare pro after ts season which wouldn't surprise me. I wish the best for the kid if that is the case.

 

Correct you are Marcus, DLo does not expect to be around for his junior season so adding Wood gives us an adequate replacement if DLo has a big sophomore season.