19-20 Transfers

[quote="Moose" post=386496][quote="Room112" post=386494][quote="Moose" post=386487][quote="Chicago Days" post=386486]If true, that seems odd LJ hasn't signed with a 'certified agent', if he can still retain his eligibility. Don't know what that means--if anything--just seems odd.[/quote]

To clarify I don’t think he has signed with anyone based on initial comments when he declared. Many players announced they were declaring and signing with one of them to maintain eligibility. When LJ declared it said he wasn’t signing with an agent so still maintaining but just a different route.[/quote]

Out of curiosity, what is your prediction?[/quote]

My flip of coin says he’s not back. But I’m just basing it on SJU having shit luck for decades ;)[/quote]

You're probably right, Moose, but his only options are St John's or overseas. He probably won't be drafted next year either and he's already 22 years old, so he might as well go and make money somewhere

Of course, selfishly, I hope he comes back for one last season at St John's
 
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[quote="Moose" post=386480][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386474][quote="Moose" post=386466][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386465][quote="Moose" post=386464][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

Well are you hearing based on inside information also?[/quote]

Most of the “insiders” have suggested he’s likely coming back. Of course few people, if anybody, know LJ’s mind. Indeed, it’s not clear whether even he does at this point. But I haven’t read anything credible to suggest the expectation is it’s more than likely he’s not coming back.[/quote]

I must have missed it because I don't recall seeing any insiders saying he is likely back. Is he getting drafted? No way but doesn't take inside information to figure that one out. The question will be if he has INTL options to play. At this point now its a flip of the coin.

I have seen quite a few players announce they are back or they are signing with an agent since declaring. LJ declared over a month ago but its been quiet.

I'm still firmly in the corner of we can't wait till July or whatever new opt out date they put into place.[/quote]

Zach has said it and Paultz as well. I don’t think either of them have suggested they know anything for certain, but even their hunches are meaningful to me.

Regardless, we can’t chase Figueroa out or force him to make a decision before July. Would send a horrible message to recruits. Nothing wrong with having a candid discussion up front about his intentions, but the kid has every right to explore the draft. It’s unfortunate that the process is delayed this year, but these are special circumstances.[/quote]

Respectfully I don’t think anyone has any firm idea. It’s 50 50. Zach and anyone who watches SJU knows he has no chance of being drafted. It comes to down to if he wants to play for pay somewhere in the world and nobody has those connections to know.

So will you promise then if LJ waits to formally leave and we can’t fill a spot because it’s too late and we struggle next year to not complain when losing our leading scorer leads to struggles?

Kid has every right to explore but doesn’t mean staff has to wait. Clearly they aren’t if we are being linked with Perez and Salnave etc. And I don’t feel it sends a bad message to recruits at all but you are absolutely good to feel that way if you choose.[/quote]

The fact that the staff "has been linked" to other players does not mean that "[c]learly they aren't" keeping Figueroa's scholarship open. It's not clear to me what, if any serious overtures the staff made to other players. The fact that we are not in Perez' top five strongly suggests that we weren't making a big push for him.

As to your question about whether I will pledge not to complain if Figueroa leaves and we find no adequate replacement, I make no such promise. I'm an irrational fan, and when it comes to this program, my emotions are unpredictable. ;)

That said, I would expect the staff to do their due diligence and talk with the kid and his family/handlers before deciding how to proceed. If they feel there is a good chance he will come back, I think it's a prudent gamble to let things play out.

I know schools like Kentucky and UNC can afford to move on from a kid who hasn't made a decision on turning pro. I don't think we're there.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

No, no inside info. Just thinking why they may have been recruiting or flirting with these kids and because so many kids leave before 4 years where they have any semblance of a professional career, especially when it comes to us. Shamorie surprised a bit by staying an extra year so maybe we are fortunate to get the same result here.
 
Where did Shamorie play last year ?

Any estimate what Shamorie would have earned last season ?

Thanks.
 
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I'm also preparing mentally for him to leave (hoping not though) In normal times it might make sense to stay another year and see if a great season can raise his profile enough to get a crack at the NBA. These aren't normal times though and we have no idea when the next college season will begin. I wonder how many guys are waiting it out while hoping for some clarity on what things will look like in a couple of months. Difficult, unpredictable circumstances to be making decisions about your future in. For anyone in almost any field. If he does go or we can't wait. I'd love to pick up Salnave. Seems like a tough kid who can score and it would be fun to have a handful of local kids on the team.
 
[quote="otis" post=386510]Where did Shamorie play last year ?

Any estimate what Shamorie would have earned last season ?

Thanks.[/quote]
Shamorie was with the Rockets and Raptors in g league almost exclusively. Had a brief nba appearance but was waived both times. Apparently signed in Italy but that too did not work out. Must be in limbo now. I feel he can be a solid off the bench type in NBA but would need to improve his outside shooting especially from 3pt range. Most likely he ends up overseas and does well there.

[URL]https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/shamorie-ponds-loses-two-way-spot/[/URL]
 
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Arizona State big man Romello White has entered his name into the Transfer Portal, a source tells
@RivalsPortal
.Immediately eligible post that averaged 10.2 points and 8.8 rebounds last season.
 
A little surprising that Romelio White would want to transfer as ASU is projected to be a top 15 team and he'd have a great chance to be part of a sweet 16 run in his last year. Maybe he's concerned with reduced pt?
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=386514]A little surprising that Romelio White would want to transfer as ASU is projected to be a top 15 team and he'd have a great chance to be part of a sweet 16 run in his last year. Maybe he's concerned with reduced pt?[/quote]

Yeah definitely odd.

Sounds like he maybe looking to get closer to home-Atlanta. My guess is Josh Pastner and Tom Crean should be on the phone.

[URL]https://www.azcentral.com/stor...p-nba-draft-enter-transfer-portal/3076269001/[/URL]
 
I am well aware that it happens all of the time but this reaks of tampering. Kentucky has struck out on transfers all season and losing a bunch of kids and happens to pluck a kid from a school who just let go of their coach.

If NCAA eventually lets a waiver for kids who have coaches leave or fired they are basically going to let the sharks come In and pick apart lower rosters of their best players.
 
[quote="PSK938" post=386706]I am well aware that it happens all of the time but this reaks of tampering. Kentucky has struck out on transfers all season and losing a bunch of kids and happens to pluck a kid from a school who just let go of their coach.

If NCAA eventually lets a waiver for kids who have coaches leave or fired they are basically going to let the sharks come In and pick apart lower rosters of their best players.[/quote]

It's not different than what goes on now. One time waivers with the right structure around it could clean things up actually.

As for this one to be fair Wake waited so damn long to fire Manning I would be shocked if this kid doesnt get an approved waiver.
 
I am not fan of Zach and think that a stupid tweet by him
 
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[quote="gman" post=386785]I am not fan of Zach and think that a stupid tweet by him[/quote]

Why? Say we added Salnave leaving us one over the scholarship limit. CMA goes to McGriff and tells him that they won’t be honoring his scholarship for the next year because they filled that space with someone else. Why should McGriff have to sit out a year because he was screwed over?
 
Sources have told @GoodmanHoops that both Elijah Olaniyi and Andrew Garcia are expected to depart from Stony Brook. If true, the Seawolves will have lost 4 of their 5 main starters from last year, with Olaniyi being an America East Player of the Year candidate.
 
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