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[quote="Moose" post=386464][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

Well are you hearing based on inside information also?[/quote]

Most of the “insiders” have suggested he’s likely coming back. Of course few people, if anybody, know LJ’s mind. Indeed, it’s not clear whether even he does at this point. But I haven’t read anything credible to suggest the expectation is it’s more than likely he’s not coming back.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=386465][quote="Moose" post=386464][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

Well are you hearing based on inside information also?[/quote]

Most of the “insiders” have suggested he’s likely coming back. Of course few people, if anybody, know LJ’s mind. Indeed, it’s not clear whether even he does at this point. But I haven’t read anything credible to suggest the expectation is it’s more than likely he’s not coming back.[/quote]

I must have missed it because I don't recall seeing any insiders saying he is likely back. Is he getting drafted? No way but doesn't take inside information to figure that one out. The question will be if he has INTL options to play. At this point now its a flip of the coin.

I have seen quite a few players announce they are back or they are signing with an agent since declaring. LJ declared over a month ago but its been quiet.

I'm still firmly in the corner of we can't wait till July or whatever new opt out date they put into place.
 
“ I'm still firmly in the corner of we can't wait till July or whatever new opt out date they put into place“

This right here I totally agree with. Need a timetable while we have good options. Even CMA in his interview kinda laughter it off as being complicated. It’s time for us to win. LJ needs to make a decision relatively soon imo.
 
[quote="Moose" post=386466][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386465][quote="Moose" post=386464][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

Well are you hearing based on inside information also?[/quote]

Most of the “insiders” have suggested he’s likely coming back. Of course few people, if anybody, know LJ’s mind. Indeed, it’s not clear whether even he does at this point. But I haven’t read anything credible to suggest the expectation is it’s more than likely he’s not coming back.[/quote]

I must have missed it because I don't recall seeing any insiders saying he is likely back. Is he getting drafted? No way but doesn't take inside information to figure that one out. The question will be if he has INTL options to play. At this point now its a flip of the coin.

I have seen quite a few players announce they are back or they are signing with an agent since declaring. LJ declared over a month ago but its been quiet.

I'm still firmly in the corner of we can't wait till July or whatever new opt out date they put into place.[/quote]

Zach has said it and Paultz as well. I don’t think either of them have suggested they know anything for certain, but even their hunches are meaningful to me.

Regardless, we can’t chase Figueroa out or force him to make a decision before July. Would send a horrible message to recruits. Nothing wrong with having a candid discussion up front about his intentions, but the kid has every right to explore the draft. It’s unfortunate that the process is delayed this year, but these are special circumstances.
 
Il’ll add that I don’t think the staff is is totally in the dark here. I’m confident they’re talking with LJ and his people. If they continue to wait for Figueroa without filling his spot, it’s likely because the staff thinks there’s a good chance he’s coming back. Of course, that doesn’t mean he will.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=386475]Il’ll add that I don’t think the staff is is totally in the dark here. I’m confident they’re talking with LJ and his people. If they continue to wait for Figueroa without filling his spot, it’s likely because the staff thinks there’s a good chance he’s coming back. Of course, that doesn’t mean he will.[/quote]

Thanks BH and we have a very good Head Coach and staff who have given us every reason to trust their collective judgment!
They not we know exactly what they are doing. In a mere single year they have brought us back to respectability and possibility.
All the best!
 
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[quote="Boo Harvey" post=386474][quote="Moose" post=386466][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386465][quote="Moose" post=386464][quote="Boo Harvey" post=386462][quote="Rob" post=386428]Contingency planning because the expectation is a greater than 50% chance that LJ decides to turn professional, so the staff is pleasantly surprised if he elects to return but has some options if he does not. Or someone else is considering a move. Or either of those are not likely to happen but they want to make sure diligence is done so we aren't left without options. Or some other creative options none of us are thinking about.[/quote]

Greater than 50 percent chance he doesn’t come back? Do you have inside info bc that’s not what I’ve been hearing.[/quote]

Well are you hearing based on inside information also?[/quote]

Most of the “insiders” have suggested he’s likely coming back. Of course few people, if anybody, know LJ’s mind. Indeed, it’s not clear whether even he does at this point. But I haven’t read anything credible to suggest the expectation is it’s more than likely he’s not coming back.[/quote]

I must have missed it because I don't recall seeing any insiders saying he is likely back. Is he getting drafted? No way but doesn't take inside information to figure that one out. The question will be if he has INTL options to play. At this point now its a flip of the coin.

I have seen quite a few players announce they are back or they are signing with an agent since declaring. LJ declared over a month ago but its been quiet.

I'm still firmly in the corner of we can't wait till July or whatever new opt out date they put into place.[/quote]

Zach has said it and Paultz as well. I don’t think either of them have suggested they know anything for certain, but even their hunches are meaningful to me.

Regardless, we can’t chase Figueroa out or force him to make a decision before July. Would send a horrible message to recruits. Nothing wrong with having a candid discussion up front about his intentions, but the kid has every right to explore the draft. It’s unfortunate that the process is delayed this year, but these are special circumstances.[/quote]

Respectfully I don’t think anyone has any firm idea. It’s 50 50. Zach and anyone who watches SJU knows he has no chance of being drafted. It comes to down to if he wants to play for pay somewhere in the world and nobody has those connections to know.

So will you promise then if LJ waits to formally leave and we can’t fill a spot because it’s too late and we struggle next year to not complain when losing our leading scorer leads to struggles?

Kid has every right to explore but doesn’t mean staff has to wait. Clearly they aren’t if we are being linked with Perez and Salnave etc. And I don’t feel it sends a bad message to recruits at all but you are absolutely good to feel that way if you choose.
 
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2nd year in the row LJ is on the fence. Agree he needs to decide. Must be difficult for coaching staff to deal with this type of situation.
 
No SJU in Pérez 5 announced today

Georgia Tech, Illinois, Iowa State, Marquette and Memphis.
 
I also don’t believe LJ has signed with a certified agent like McClung which is now allowed and he can still maintain eligibility. Signing with one of these certified agents can give you easier access to the information you need to gauge next level interest.
 
If true, that seems odd LJ hasn't signed with a 'certified agent', if he can still retain his eligibility. Don't know what that means--if anything--just seems odd.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=386486]If true, that seems odd LJ hasn't signed with a 'certified agent', if he can still retain his eligibility. Don't know what that means--if anything--just seems odd.[/quote]

To clarify I don’t think he has signed with anyone based on initial comments when he declared. Many players announced they were declaring and signing with one of them to maintain eligibility. When LJ declared it said he wasn’t signing with an agent so still maintaining but just a different route.
 
[quote="Moose" post=386487][quote="Chicago Days" post=386486]If true, that seems odd LJ hasn't signed with a 'certified agent', if he can still retain his eligibility. Don't know what that means--if anything--just seems odd.[/quote]

To clarify I don’t think he has signed with anyone based on initial comments when he declared. Many players announced they were declaring and signing with one of them to maintain eligibility. When LJ declared it said he wasn’t signing with an agent so still maintaining but just a different route.[/quote]

Out of curiosity, what is your prediction?
 
[quote="Room112" post=386494][quote="Moose" post=386487][quote="Chicago Days" post=386486]If true, that seems odd LJ hasn't signed with a 'certified agent', if he can still retain his eligibility. Don't know what that means--if anything--just seems odd.[/quote]

To clarify I don’t think he has signed with anyone based on initial comments when he declared. Many players announced they were declaring and signing with one of them to maintain eligibility. When LJ declared it said he wasn’t signing with an agent so still maintaining but just a different route.[/quote]

Out of curiosity, what is your prediction?[/quote]

My flip of coin says he’s not back. But I’m just basing it on SJU having shit luck for decades ;)
 
Hopefully, that sh*t luck is changing but most on this Board hears you.
 
[quote="Moose" post=386482]No SJU in Pérez 5 announced today

Georgia Tech, Illinois, Iowa State, Marquette and Memphis.[/quote]

Not a shock.
 
[quote="usguard" post=386483]If he is smart he comes back has a very good yr and then sees if there are any nba teams interested[/quote]

That's assuming there IS a season.
 
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