New York Mets 2025 Season

[sjc88]

What’s interesting about Sproat is the fluctuation in K’s. Not that K’s are a be all end all. That’s not what I am saying.

However, it does speak to swing and miss and deception. That certainly is ticking up with 9 K”s. When he was struggling his game logs show 0 or 1Ks and that was alarming.

I started to think injury because he fell off the ledge. He seems to have it back. His ERA overall is now 4 when for a period it was 6. Seems he is back on track.

 

[dk423]

I think the walks are huge. Last six starts, averaging 3 walks per 9. That would be his slowest since he broke out in Binghamton the year prior. Shows he's gaining confidence.

 

[Marillac2]

What’s interesting about Sproat is the fluctuation in K’s. Not that K’s are a be all end all. That’s not what I am saying.

However, it does speak to swing and miss and deception. That certainly is ticking up with 9 K”s. When he was struggling his game logs show 0 or 1Ks and that was alarming.

I started to think injury because he fell off the ledge. He seems to have it back. His ERA overall is now 4 when for a period it was 6. Seems he is back on track.

When you have the kind of arm talent that Sproat has, you expect swings and misses. That hasn't been there for him. Tong and McLean look like they are throwing wiffle balls in comparison...the movement is that crazy.

I haven't seen him in this stretch, but around May/June, I did think the fastball was something that needed to be completely torn down and built from scratch during the offseason. Sometimes a new grip and a few games with it can change a season...I'm hoping that's the case here. He's double his curveball usage and he's gained a few MPH on his fastball in July.

The Mets will certainly add Sproat and McLean for the September call-ups -- maybe sooner to spell Holmes. Maybe stack those two in the same game a handful of times.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Thanks god my season tix didn't go up much so now I can still go to the world series. Ryder cup I'm going to still have to do some double talk

 

[gman]

0-10 so far for the fab 4…

Reverse jinx from me, Alonso broke the 0-fer

 

[Jack Williams]

Massive AB coming up for Pete. Fly ball can tie the game at the very least

 

[Jack Williams]

Oh my god. They really put butto out there

 

[dk423]

Not sure that was a spot to pinch hit Baty for Vientos. Mendoza loves his platoons too much

 

[Marillac2]

Helsley is electric. Wow.

 

[dk423]

Helsley is effing electric. Going to be real fun to watch.

 

[Jack Williams]

Helsley is electric. Wow.

Couple soft base hits but wow that was exhilarating

 

[gman]

Our big 4 really suck right now. They need to get it together.

 

[guinness77]

Not sure that was a spot to pinch hit Baty for Vientos. Mendoza loves his platoons too much

This right here. He’s got too much Yankee analysis in his blood. Vientos has been good, Baty has not. Game got lost right here.

Not to mention, Nimmo should be bunting in the 10th but who the hell does that anymore?

 

[logen]

Not sure that was a spot to pinch hit Baty for Vientos. Mendoza loves his platoons too much

I am sure, horrible move IMO. But no manager looks good when you have a lineup that is just devoid of clutch hitters. Let’s face it the Mets have played .500 baseball for 2 months now. 14 games over .500 on May 31 and August 1, maybe that’s just what they are. Still right there standing wise but seemingly just treading water.

 

[mjmaherjr]

This game hurt my brain

 

[Jack Williams]

I am sure, horrible move IMO. But no manager looks good when you have a lineup that is just devoid of clutch hitters. Let’s face it the Mets have played .500 baseball for 2 months now. 14 games over .500 on May 31 and August 1, maybe that’s just what they are. Still right there standing wise but seemingly just treading water.

Agreed. I haven’t felt genuine belief in this lineup for close to two months. They just don’t feel threatening in the way they should.

That’s why I hated taking Vientos out late in this one. You gotta try to get him going, give him some clutch ABs, he’s shown he’s capable in the past, give him the shot. This lineup needs his pop

 

[logen]

Agreed. I haven’t felt genuine belief in this lineup for close to two months. They just don’t feel threatening in the way they should.

That’s why I hated taking Vientos out late in this one. You gotta try to get him going, give him some clutch ABs, he’s shown he’s capable in the past, give him the shot. This lineup needs his pop

Could not agree more. Your description of them, “don’t feel threatening”, is exactly spot on. Conversely, the use of the term “Big 4”, which seems to have come into vogue here, almost appears to be more sarcastically mocking because they are anything but now and never were that.
Nimmo not getting the runner over in the 10th last night was glaringly symptomatic of an offense that does none of the little things.
This may be a huge stretch and more a reflection of my view of sports but guys like Bader and Iglesias, who brought an intangible energy and attitude to the team as well as being good players, are sorely missed IMO. I think your quote reveals sadly but nicely a lack of both those things with this team.

 

[dk423]

The main issue is that our Fab 4 relies on two notoriously streaky hitters: Alonso and Lindor. Its partially why Stearns is hesitant to give Alonso a long-term commitment, and I don't blame him. Lindor is extremely frustrating and I wouldn't blame anyone for booing him. Hitting below .200 for a 48 game stretch is just unacceptable, and something he has a routine of doing at this point.

Nimmo/McNeil have been consistently good for the most part. The Soto RISP numbers are baffling and I'm not sure what to make of it. Vientos not taking a step forward this year has really harmed the offense. Hopefully Mullins adds something. I get too angry watching Taylor take at-bats at this point.

 

[logen]

The main issue is that our Fab 4 relies on two notoriously streaky hitters: Alonso and Lindor. Its partially why Stearns is hesitant to give Alonso a long-term commitment, and I don't blame him. Lindor is extremely frustrating and I wouldn't blame anyone for booing him. Hitting below .200 for a 48 game stretch is just unacceptable, and something he has a routine of doing at this point.

Nimmo/McNeil have been consistently good for the most part. The Soto RISP numbers are baffling and I'm not sure what to make of it. Vientos not taking a step forward this year has really harmed the offense. Hopefully Mullins adds something. I get too angry watching Taylor take at-bats at this point.

One of my consistent mantras coaching, whether HS basketball or now 7U traveling baseball (my grandson) was repeating over and over to players that the ONLY thing they control is their effort.
So a question for you, what does “unacceptable” mean to you exactly? No one can knock Lindor’s effort EVER! You state Lindor is a “notoriously streaky hitter(s)”, yet state you “wouldn’t blame anyone for booing him.” For being EXACTLY the player you described a couple of sentences before, the player he has been his whole career?
Lindor comes across as someone who exudes class, a man’s man who doesn’t shy away from the microphone when things are going bad, and who certainly doesn’t hide behind excuses. Win or lose, going good or bad, he remains a leader by example and he is up there in my list of most admired NY athletes.

 

[Marillac2]

Not sure that was a spot to pinch hit Baty for Vientos. Mendoza loves his platoons too much

I rarely second guess managers, but this seemed obvious. Vientos is finally hot and Baty was in an 0-14 slump.

Vientos looked pissed.