Zags: St. John's & Slice Part Ways
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basketballjones
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While this development doesn't have a good look, and I hate to lose such a highly regarded recruiter, if Slice wants to quit within 1 year because He believes he was not given preferential treatment on the staff and the lead role on the bench under Mullin, then I think Mullin did the right thing all along. Slice is obviously an excellent recruiter, but from what I have seen and heard from him I don't think he's a good coach at all. Wherever he ends up I think it will be as a recruiter. So, this seems to be all ego driven and not well thought out.
beast of the east
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No way this can be spun into something positive. It was either a bad hire, or bad management of a problem that surfaced.
With a largely inexperienced staff, Richmond would be a foolish hire. It's lunacy to believe that building a top notch college program is based on a HOF player's resume or that it's an easy job. If that were the case, guys like Coach K wouldn't get paid a well deserved $5 million plus per season. A lot more people fail than succeed, and coaches typically rise to a certain level based on competence. There are a ton of guys not capable of being more than a D2 or D3 coach, and even more best suited to teach history and coach a HS team.
Get an experienced guy in here as an assistant.
With a largely inexperienced staff, Richmond would be a foolish hire. It's lunacy to believe that building a top notch college program is based on a HOF player's resume or that it's an easy job. If that were the case, guys like Coach K wouldn't get paid a well deserved $5 million plus per season. A lot more people fail than succeed, and coaches typically rise to a certain level based on competence. There are a ton of guys not capable of being more than a D2 or D3 coach, and even more best suited to teach history and coach a HS team.
Get an experienced guy in here as an assistant.
beast of the east
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Hate to loose Slice. But the reality is ,at SJU Matt out recruited him. His days at Manhatten never demonstrated a high XO acumen. The fact that Mullin let ST Jean have more say than Slice in the XO dept. may be telling. Have to question if he was worth his salary at SJU. Don't think this is as big of a loss as most people think. Would rather get an experienced in game coach, but will probably promote MR. MR doesn't have coaching exp. but he should be able to help in the player development dept. Plus has name recognition.
prjohnnies
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Can't it be that it was a great hire which simply did not work out for various reasons (either unexpected or because of parties' expectations differing), and that is simply best for all to move on quickly? Not saying that I know anything on this, just asking the question.
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beast of the east
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Most coaches fail. I don't know that great players succeed or fail in higher proportions.
Lenny Wilkens was a great player and a very good coach. Players don't have to motivate and direct other players, except mostly by example. Coaching is a different skillset
Lenny Wilkens was a great player and a very good coach. Players don't have to motivate and direct other players, except mostly by example. Coaching is a different skillset
we are sju
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"Yeah I mean Mullin and Richmond are fine I guess but I really wanted to meet the guy who played the detective in Glengarry Glen Ross," said Naz Reid, huge David Mamet fan.
http://www.latlmes.com/world/naz-reid-1
beast of the east
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Most employment contracts have a termination for cause clause - with no severance pay, a termination for no cause - with anywhere from 6 mos. to the term of the agreement. In the case of voluntary resignation, there is typically no severance. Only way SJU pays is if they asked him to leave. Considering Oliva is general counsel and AD, hopefully the university executed an agreement that makes sense, but with SJU you never know.
He must be pretty fed up to walk at this point in the off year where latching on to a top program will be difficult.
He must be pretty fed up to walk at this point in the off year where latching on to a top program will be difficult.
Agree that this is not great from a PR perspective, although I think we overestimate the importance of it nationally and even locally, but good that it happened when it did(quiet period for college hoops). Besides if Matt keeps on doing what he's been doing, and if we have a half way decent season, this will turn out to be barely a bleep on our radar.
