Yankees - 2018

They will make the playoffs, but are not built to win the WS. Cashin has known for 2 years that the starting pitching was inadequate for playoff baseball. He's chosen not to use his chips or money to acquire starting pitching. A great bullpen (it hasn’t been that great of late) can’t get you back into games that the starting pitch has thrown away. The max swing HR or nothing offense produces gaudy numbers but does not usually translate to championships. The Sabermetrics stuff is BS and does not account for compiling big #s against inferior teams while wilting against the top teams. The Yankees are built to be a very good (.600 plus) regular season team. But for years now has under produced against the better teams and especially against premier starting pitching. It is not a coincidence that the 2 best teams in baseball today (Houston and Boston) are not HR or nothing offenses, and have much better starting pitching that the Yanks do. I know Met and other fans say shut up you spoiled Yankee fan, your guys are going to win 100 games. But it is not good baseball to watch and the team is not built to win it all.
 
[quote="redmanwest" post=291555]They will make the playoffs, but are not built to win the WS. Cashin has known for 2 years that the starting pitching was inadequate for playoff baseball. He's chosen not to use his chips or money to acquire starting pitching. A great bullpen (it hasn’t been that great of late) can’t get you back into games that the starting pitch has thrown away. The max swing HR or nothing offense produces gaudy numbers but does not usually translate to championships. The Sabermetrics stuff is BS and does not account for compiling big #s against inferior teams while wilting against the top teams. The Yankees are built to be a very good (.600 plus) regular season team. But for years now has under produced against the better teams and especially against premier starting pitching. It is not a coincidence that the 2 best teams in baseball today (Houston and Boston) are not HR or nothing offenses, and have much better starting pitching that the Yanks do. I know Met and other fans say shut up you spoiled Yankee fan, your guys are going to win 100 games. But it is not good baseball to watch and the team is not built to win it all.[/quote]

The Yankees have a better record vs. plus-.500 teams, then under-.500 teams. They're a combined 15-9 against the three AL division leaders this year, and when you factor in second wild card Oakland, and just out of it Seattle, that record goes to 20-10. So, that part of your argument does not hold.
 
I would have to analyze who started the games that they won in. The Yankees do not perform well against the front-line starters who they face. Those are basically the only guys that they will face in the post-season.
 
I think the dynamic of the need for starting pitchers to go deep into a game has been blown up by the quality and depth of a Great Bullpen. What is need are starters that can consistently go 5-6 innings and keep the team in a game.
 
I agree you need a couple of dominant starters to win in post season. Only guys Yanks have with that potential are Severino & Tanaka. Here's hoping they can both become dominant again between now and playoffs.
 
Really a pretty pathetic showing when it mattered most. This is not a championship team. Hopefully we can win that wild card game.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=291609]Really a pretty pathetic showing when it mattered most. This is not a championship team. Hopefully we can win that wild card game.[/quote]

Well they got what they wanted, which was a split. Now they're gonna try to put us to sleep, and end out hopes for the div crown.
We left nobody on base, Gardner was hit, was out on the dp, and Andujars HR. What an easy game for Porcello.
Can we get a split? We'd be alive, but would still need cpr.
My gut feeling? We'd be lucky to take even one of the last 2.

Lets see if they could show atleast alittle fight, or are they just gonna lay down.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=291633][quote="NCJohnnie" post=291609]Really a pretty pathetic showing when it mattered most. This is not a championship team. Hopefully we can win that wild card game.[/quote]

Well they got what they wanted, which was a split. Now they're gonna try to put us to sleep, and end out hopes for the div crown.
We left nobody on base, Gardner was hit, was out on the dp, and Andujars HR. What an easy game for Porcello.
Can we get a split? We'd be alive, but would still need cpr.
My gut feeling? We'd be lucky to take even one of the last 2.

Lets see if they could show atleast alittle fight, or are they just gonna lay down.[/quote]

One, ONE! freaking hit at Fenway!
 
It's ok.
As Moose would say

27


Games


Above


500


Jeez.

Well Boston just put us to sleep, div is wrapped up.
On to the WC standings

A's are now 19 games over. Thank god Seattle is on a 4 game losing streak.

I don't understand how they could look so good going 50-22, theyn 18-19 in the next 37.
We're just a freaking 500 team now.
The 3 game set at Chicago I think is huge, it will show us where our confidence is at.
If they can't hit vs. their pitchers, they're in deep trouble.

We keep waiting for them to snap out of it, but they aren't, and 37 games is a significant amount of games.
 
We are a solid wild card team, nothing more, nothing less. Injuries have hurt, but starting pitching was a weakness never addressed.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=291671]It's ok.
As Moose would say

27


Games


Above


500


Jeez.

Well Boston just put us to sleep, div is wrapped up.
On to the WC standings

A's are now 19 games over. Thank god Seattle is on a 4 game losing streak.

I don't understand how they could look so good going 50-22, theyn 18-19 in the next 37.
We're just a freaking 500 team now.
The 3 game set at Chicago I think is huge, it will show us where our confidence is at.
If they can't hit vs. their pitchers, they're in deep trouble.

We keep waiting for them to snap out of it, but they aren't, and 37 games is a significant amount of games.[/quote]

Yes it's a shame they are 27 over 500.
Should probably fire Boone.
And trade half the team clearly
 
Yea it sucks the team looks lifeless and the Red Sox are taking them out back and smacking them around. They are playing without two very important pieces. I know most critical Yankee fans hate Sanchez but let's be real. The real Romine has reappeared as he can't play full time.

Another overlooked factor is Torreyes. Don't discount the intangible factor and what impact that has on a locker room.

Chance pitched OK. Would have liked to see Yankees start a reliever for an inning ala Tampa Bay to calm his nerves a bit. But alas.

They key now is to not look over the shoulder and see the WC lead shrinking. Get back on track and get to best of five. Anything can happen.
 
A lot of holes with this team.
Power and bullpen weaknesses concealed many.
 
[quote="Moose" post=291676]Yea it sucks the team looks lifeless and the Red Sox are taking them out back and smacking them around. They are playing without two very important pieces. I know most critical Yankee fans hate Sanchez but let's be real. The real Romine has reappeared as he can't play full time.

Another overlooked factor is Torreyes. Don't discount the intangible factor and what impact that has on a locker room.

Chance pitched OK. Would have liked to see Yankees start a reliever for an inning ala Tampa Bay to calm his nerves a bit. But alas.

They key now is to not look over the shoulder and see the WC lead shrinking. Get back on track and get to best of five. Anything can happen.[/quote]

Moose, if Sanchez comes back as that 188 hitter, no we will not miss Sanchez, if he comes back and he's the Sanchez of the last 2 years, then yes, he'll be a welcome addition.
Will he be hustling too? It's another question.

Chance was ok, but wtf are the GD BATS? Shut down by Porcello, atleast he won the mvp, but Nathan freaking Eovaldi??? Freaking kidding me? He's a #3 or #4 pitcher on any staff and yanks couldn't hit him? That's a big WTF.
I want to see how the Yanks handle what happened at Fenway. Are they fragile and struggle, or they put this series to the side and bounce back from this? Normally I'd say sweep the White Sox, but I'll say just take 2 of 3.
If they struggle vs. the White Sox, it could get bad.

We might get into the WC, with Seattle losing 5 straight (TY Seattle), but Oakland won 5 straight and only 3.5 behind the Yanks, so even if we get in, we might be going to Oakland.

Moose, do you see this Boston team faltering? I don't.
Maybe if Yanks do what boston did, win something like 20-in 25 games, they might get it down to 5. I just don't see Boston going on long losing streaks.
2 of 3 at Chicago
3 of 4 vs. Texas
beat the mets
2-3 vs TB
sweep 3 vs Toronto 11-3
sweep 2 @ Miami 13-3
Praying we take 3 0f 4 @ Balt 16-4 (knowing from the past we'll split that 4 game series)
Then 7 games vs chicago and Det at the stadium take 5 of 7? 21-6

Can we go 21-6 before the big west coast trip to Oak and Sea

They gotta find themselves first.
 
We have a horrible lineup w/o Judge and Sanchez. Just can't hit. Price blowing them away.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=291732]We have a horrible lineup w/o Judge and Sanchez. Just can't hit. Price blowing them away.[/quote]

They always hit Price, it's like maybe they gave up.
I never thought i'd see the offense look this bad this year.

Oh by the way, Seattle won. If Yanks lose, it's down to 5, 2.5 over oakland.

Chicago is the most important series of the season, to see how they rebound.

If they lose of 3 things could go on a downward spiral. It's all up to the players.
 
I'm beyond pissed, the one game you thought they had, with the closer coming in to seal the deal.
Blows it, you can't make this crap up.
I'm tuning this game off, you know they're losing this game, and screw the next 26 games.

I'll see ya in October, peace.

Call me a crappy fan, I guess I am.
I just don't understand how you go from a 41-13 in a 54 game period, to a 18-20 team in the next 38 games.
Injuries? Yeah I understand Judge but Sanchez is a 188 hitter with only 14HRs.
There's no guarantees that he'll be any better when he returns
 
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