Xavier, Wed., Dec. 28, 9p, FS-1

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I wasn’t a fan of CMA hire to start. However; his first year he really surprised. Was at the West Virginia game and thought we might be headed in right direction. The loss to Seton Hall in ‘21 BET was the big head scratcher. Last season with one of the biggest disappointments. I see the same this year. CMA likes scheduling cupcakes and building a big winning record! At the end of day, this is not NCAA team. They don’t play full game.

Hopefully end of the year he retires gracefully. There’s only one solution that’s Slick Rick. I don’t want to hear about the moral police. We inducted a murder into our Hall of Fame.

This year will be 23 years without a tournament win. We have not played on a Friday night in BET for that same amount of time.
 
Wow. It's like a morgue around here. I don't remember the board being in a combined melancholy mood like this. If it makes us sad, imagine what the players feel like. That may explain their body language, at least as perceived by the body language experts on the board. What I see is frustration, which leads to pressing and forcing things. Posh is trying too hard to get to the basket, leading to tough shots in traffic and turnovers. then crying for the foul after a bad miss. Refs don't often reward out of control play.

Curbelo does not play a fundamentally sound game. Looie would not tolerate this. Of course no 3 point shot then. but Looie could win with a PG that could not shoot but valued each possession. If you believe that college hoops especially rewards good guard play, then a combined 11 for 50 from 3 (22%) and a combined 6 turnovers per game from our starting backcourt says a lot.
 
A publication I subscribe to identifies a “good player” as someone who could start on more than half off the Luther teams in the conference

Looking at the roster I believe that only Soriano could start on more than half of the teams in the Big East. Perhaps Jones, could also start on half of the Big East teams but I do not believe Posh, Curbelo, or Mathias would.

As previously stated by other posters, the St. John’s roster is composed of more athletes than basketball players.

I would rate Soriano, Jones, and Mathias as the only regular rotation players that seem to understand the team concept.
 
AlBovino said:
Agree this is the dumbest (basketball IQ) SJU team of all time, and we have had quite a few dumb teams over the last 15 years. Please stop recruiting athletes and recruit basketball players.
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Unless there is a miraculous recovery, this will mean SJU will have had seven unsuccessful coaching hires in a row. The managerial incompetence is staggering.
 
otis said:
A publication I subscribe to identifies a “good player” as someone who could start on more than half off the Luther teams in the conference

Looking at the roster I believe that only Soriano could start on more than half of the teams in the Big East. Perhaps Jones, could also start on half of the Big East teams but I do not believe Posh, Curbelo, or Mathias would.

As previously stated by other posters, the St. John’s roster is composed of more athletes than basketball players.

I would rate Soriano, Jones, and Mathias as the only regular rotation players that seem to understand the team concept.
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I think Posh understands the team concept. I also agree that he has had a horrible year so far. I blame it on his playing out of position. Posh is a Point Guard and only a Point Guard. His playing out of position and with a hot dog PG like Curbelo has frustrated him into playing poorly and out of control himself.
 
Las Vegan said:
Unless there is a miraculous recovery, this will mean SJU will have had seven unsuccessful coaching hires in a row. The managerial incompetence is staggering.
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Ended as badly as it possibly could have however I was extremely happy to happy with 4 Jarvis years. And don’t think you can call Lavin a failure
But understand your point
 
classof2010 said:
I wasn’t a fan of CMA hire to start. However; his first year he really surprised. Was at the West Virginia game and thought we might be headed in right direction. The loss to Seton Hall in ‘21 BET was the big head scratcher. Last season with one of the biggest disappointments. I see the same this year. CMA likes scheduling cupcakes and building a big winning record! At the end of day, this is not NCAA team. They don’t play full game.

Hopefully end of the year he retires gracefully. There’s only one solution that’s Slick Rick. I don’t want to hear about the moral police. We inducted a murder into our Hall of Fame.

This year will be 23 years without a tournament win. We have not played on a Friday night in BET for that same amount of time.
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Do you think Pitino would make public the offer and then refuse it? Or would he take this job?
 
Ray Morgan said:
Wow. It's like a morgue around here. I don't remember the board being in a combined melancholy mood like this. If it makes us sad, imagine what the players feel like. That may explain their body language, at least as perceived by the body language experts on the board. What I see is frustration, which leads to pressing and forcing things. Posh is trying too hard to get to the basket, leading to tough shots in traffic and turnovers. then crying for the foul after a bad miss. Refs don't often reward out of control play.

Curbelo does not play a fundamentally sound game. Looie would not tolerate this. Of course no 3 point shot then. but Looie could win with a PG that could not shoot but valued each possession. If you believe that college hoops especially rewards good guard play, then a combined 11 for 50 from 3 (22%) and a combined 6 turnovers per game from our starting backcourt says a lot.
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I think we wind up 10-10.
AlBovino said:
I think Posh understands the team concept. I also agree that he has had a horrible year so far. I blame it on his playing out of position. Posh is a Point Guard and only a Point Guard. His playing out of position and with a hot dog PG like Curbelo has frustrated him into playing poorly and out of control himself.
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I would honestly turn the keys over to Posh and have Curbelo playing off the ball. I truly believe Posh cares and wants to win badly and he is trying to be something he isnt. An off the ball guard.
 
In this game more then any so far, the Posh/Curbelo tandem is not working. In my opinion it was doomed from the start. Since neither can shoot consistently, the only way it would work is if the amount of disruption on defense they would cause would far outweigh the loss of offense, But this is the Big East where there are quality back court players and that just aint gonna work. Many salivated on the thought of Posh and Curbelo vs. a perceived weak Archie 2 and freshman Armstrong at Nova but how did that work out? In fact, early on Armstrong took Curbelo to the cleaners.

The concern I have with this is that once again in the Xavier game, the team had a very poor opening half again in a large part due to the combo not working. Yet Anderson made no change, went with the same starting line up for quite some time and again the same result...... getting into a hole they never got out of. Is that what we should expect from a D1 coach making several million a year? No adjustment for an obvious issue that continues to plague the team?
 
billyfa said:
I think we wind up 10-10.

I would honestly turn the keys over to Posh and have Curbelo playing off the ball. I truly believe Posh cares and wants to win badly and he is trying to be something he isnt. An off the ball guard.
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Curbelo can't play the 2G. Mathis has earned the 2G position with his play so far. Curbelo should only come off the bench as a sub for Posh.
 
AlBovino said:
Curbelo can't play the 2G. Mathis has earned the 2G position with his play so far. Curbelo should only come off the bench as a sub for Posh.
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Mathis success this year is in large part due to him not having the ball in his hands. He is being set up well and most importantly, to his credit, is not forcing it. If there’s one thing I don’t want to change, it is how he is being used.
 
Mullins Revenge said:
I think the exact opposite. Id have posh come off the bench to spell Curbelo.
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Curbello does not gripe and throw his hands up like posh is doing every time he takes a terrible shot or loses the ball. Posh really needs to put his hands down and keep after it. Stop complaining in the middle of the game.
If the team can play with energy like they did at the end. The scheme could work. But it really has to be consistent. Not just five minutes a night. The shot at the end of the half is indicative of playing calling. Dribble on top of the key rush the hoop with seconds left and throw up a terrible shot. How about a pick and roll?
 
Amaseinyourface said:
Mathis success this year is in large part due to him not having the ball in his hands. He is being set up well and most importantly, to his credit, is not forcing it. If there’s one thing I don’t want to change, it is how he is being used.
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I'd like for him to get the ball more and plays called for him, to leverage that discipline and success he has shown.
 
Rhythm said:
Curbello does not gripe and throw his hands up like posh is doing every time he takes a terrible shot or loses the ball. Posh really needs to put his hands down and keep after it. Stop complaining in the middle of the game.
If the team can play with energy like they did at the end. The scheme could work. But it really has to be consistent. Not just five minutes a night. The shot at the end of the half is indicative of playing calling. Dribble on top of the key rush the hoop with seconds left and throw up a terrible shot. How about a pick and roll?
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“weave it”
 
redmanwest said:
I'd like for him to get the ball more and plays called for him, to leverage that discipline and success he has shown.
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Plays called for him to get looks I completely agree. But don’t want him being the guy with the ball attempting to make those plays from the perimeter. Think that difference would be noticeable between being the 2 guard, and playing the 3 along two other guards.
 
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