@West Virginia, Fri., Dec. 1, 7p, ESPN-2

While the Johnnie’s have not technically played an away game, playing against Dayton, with their cheerleaders, band and the majority of fans made it feel like the Johnnies were a visiting team.
The band makes a big difference. Anyone who has ever attended an NCAA tournament game knows the difference between the schools that use the seats for extra fans v. the schools that use those seats for the pep band.
 
The band makes a big difference. Anyone who has ever attended an NCAA tournament game knows the difference between the schools that use the seats for extra fans v. the schools that use those seats for the pep band.
Especially when the band was behind the Johnnies basket in the second half. If you check the stats, the Johnnies had worse foul shooting stats facing that band.
 
Especially when the band was behind the Johnnies basket in the second half. If you check the stats, the Johnnies had worse foul shooting stats facing that band.

Dayton has an impressive base of supporters. They are a Marianist school (like Chaminade hs) and their endowment is about $800 million, though they report investments of $1.06 billion).

They brought their band and cheerleaders, and my guess is they outnumbered st johns fans about 3 to 1. I did mention the band and cheerleaders right away and was told the cost of that is pretty significant. Flying and housing 25-30 cheerleaders and band members has to run in the $30k range.

Obviously they spend a lot less on coaching staff but their fand travel well and the school raises a lot more money which allows this sort of spend.

Severals years back I happened to be in Spokane on business when the ncaa regionals were going on. By chance I was at the host hotel where both Harvard and North Dakota stayed. North Dakota's pep squad was literally one person with a boom box blasting the school fight song as the team arrived and exited the bus.

Then Harvard arrived. The first bus had the band and cheerleaders that welcomed the team with an impressive rousing display. $50 billion in endowment does that for you.
 
Kind of kills the point the guy was making about Dayton being 53 pages.

No it doesn’t. I guess you didn’t get the point of my post. My point was about losing vs winning and length of game threads. Not about pre game talk on a game.

Plus it was Michigan in the 50’s. Dayton was in the 30’s. If you are gonna try and negate something at least be as accurate as you can be.

And this game has been a week away and ppl started posting right after the holy cross game with anticipation.
 
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The Johnnies NCAA tournament selection chance will be decided by their conference performance, not by an early December game. You obviously want to win every game you play, but a good or bad in-conference is going to leave this game long in the rear view mirror.
 
The Johnnies NCAA tournament selection chance will be decided by their conference performance, not by an early December game. You obviously want to win every game you play, but a good or bad in-conference is going to leave this game long in the rear view mirror.
Disagree
10-8 in BE is a good performance but 18 wins won’t get us in. Losses in Dec just means more BE and BET wins will have to get.
 
The Johnnies NCAA tournament selection chance will be decided by their conference performance, not by an early December game. You obviously want to win every game you play, but a good or bad in-conference is going to leave this game long in the rear view mirror.
It’s true. The Covid year St John’s beat a much better West Virginia team than this one and then beat a ranked Arizona team a couple weeks later but none of that mattered after they started 1-6 in conference play…

St John’s BE schedule is frontloaded. They don’t need to be world beaters. Just get through the first 10 games 5-5 or 4-6. It won’t feel amazing but it will set themselves up for a 2nd half run. If you want an indicator of how hard the first half of St John’s BE schedule is compared to the back half just know that all 4 of their games against DePaul & Georgetown are in the last 9 games. They just have to steal enough games to put themselves in position.
 
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