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L J S A
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We definitely aren't finding a 20 ppg guy in the portal in late June.MainMan post=435414 said:
The backup plan is Posh adding 5 ppg, Mathis and Wheeler getting to 10+ ppg, Soriano and Smith staying at 10+ ppg with the jump in level, and everyone defending their asses off.
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L J S A post=435407 said:
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thetux1 post=435420 said:
There's a reason Garza stayed in school. ESPN has him going 53. NBA Draft.net keeps a consensus draft using multiple sources and in that he goes undrafted. I found another guy with a more current consensus of the 1st round and Garza doesn't show up. ESPN had 10 guys in the game in their mock, highest was Josh Primo at 35, the only guy in the top 40. Other guys who seem borderline first round in that consensus are Greg Brown and Nah'Shon Hyland.L J S A post=435415 said:
The guys going in the top 15 don't play in the 5 on 5s at the combine. In fact if your pretty sure you are a first rounder you don't play. Don't want to risk getting exposed. Better to show your skills in a managed workout. There's hours of tape of you playing 5 on 5 available to teams.
PS Garza should stay in school. Only 10 guys have scored 3K points in their NCAA careers, Garza could become #5. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
PPS Still amazing that the all time leader, Pistol Pete, only played 3 years. Everyone else in the club played 4, though the Big O came within 26 points. /media/kunena/emoticons/whistling.png
PPPS If you take out mid major players and coach's sons there's no one who has scored 3K in their career. /media/kunena/emoticons/grin.png
PPPPS The highest ranked player who plays for a team that is currently in the big 6 (AAC does not count) and did not have his father as a head or assistant coach is Tyler Hansborough. /media/kunena/emoticons/sick.png After that Redick, and then Markus Howard. Manning and Houston also disqualified by the dad on staff rule.
PPS Still amazing that the all time leader, Pistol Pete, only played 3 years. Everyone else in the club played 4, though the Big O came within 26 points. /media/kunena/emoticons/whistling.png
PPPS If you take out mid major players and coach's sons there's no one who has scored 3K in their career. /media/kunena/emoticons/grin.png
PPPPS The highest ranked player who plays for a team that is currently in the big 6 (AAC does not count) and did not have his father as a head or assistant coach is Tyler Hansborough. /media/kunena/emoticons/sick.png After that Redick, and then Markus Howard. Manning and Houston also disqualified by the dad on staff rule.
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I think he returns because there is more to gain from returning, perhaps significantly more.
As far as Garza, great college player. And in the 80s or even early/mid 90s, maybe later, he ends up being a first round pick. No more. Now it is about projections to what the current NBA looks like. Versatility to create off the bounce for yourself or others. The ability to get your shot and/or shoot at a high level (and if you can't get your own shot consistently, you better project to shoot at a really high level and have some size). Rim protectors. 3 and D guys. Bigs that are athletic enough to guard the switch on the pick roll and make plays off the lob in the PNR structure on offense. Garza was ions better as a college big than Kai Jones. But Jones is going to get taken long before him because how NBA folks project his fit in the current league compared to Garza. Dropping 40 pounds is Garza's attempt to mold himself into a versatile enough big that can stick.
As far as Garza, great college player. And in the 80s or even early/mid 90s, maybe later, he ends up being a first round pick. No more. Now it is about projections to what the current NBA looks like. Versatility to create off the bounce for yourself or others. The ability to get your shot and/or shoot at a high level (and if you can't get your own shot consistently, you better project to shoot at a really high level and have some size). Rim protectors. 3 and D guys. Bigs that are athletic enough to guard the switch on the pick roll and make plays off the lob in the PNR structure on offense. Garza was ions better as a college big than Kai Jones. But Jones is going to get taken long before him because how NBA folks project his fit in the current league compared to Garza. Dropping 40 pounds is Garza's attempt to mold himself into a versatile enough big that can stick.
Zach B. article
Julian Champagnie focuses on NBA draft combine as St. John’s decision looms
https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/st-jo...-dream-for-now/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Julian Champagnie focuses on NBA draft combine as St. John’s decision looms
https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/st-jo...-dream-for-now/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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P1NSTR1PEZ
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He's doing post season work -- july 7 will be the deadline for all our answersthetux1 post=435420 said:
Knockout-Ned
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Rated #7 out of the G league combine:7. Jose AlvaradoThe 6-foot skilled point guard has kept his options open and could return to Georgia Tech for a fifth season. Alvarado demonstrated his ball-handling and passing prowess in both games while also showing off the ability to knock down jumpers on a consistent basis, particularly from deep off the dribble.He was also outstanding defensively as he “dogged” opposing point guards. He probably helped his draft stock, if he decides to remain in the NBA draft and is potential late-second-round draft choice.G-League Elite Camp stats: 8.0 points, 2.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 2.0 steals, 1.0 turnover, and 1.5 blocks.He was 6 of14 from the field (42.6%), 3 of 6 (50%) from the 3-point line, and 1 of 2 (50%) from the charity stripe.P1NSTR1PEZ post=435432 said:
Mullins Revenge
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Do they post the measureables from the combine. Id love to see how julian stacks up with the other kids.
I dont think the scrimmage or the workout is going to push him up or down the board, I think the measurables will.
I dont think the scrimmage or the workout is going to push him up or down the board, I think the measurables will.
Mullins Revenge
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Answered my own question. Not good numbers on the vertical:
[URL]https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility/[/URL]
Interesting quote from that articleRedStormNC post=435430 said:
If the rising junior stays in the draft, he likely would be a mid-to-late second-round pick this year in what is a loaded draft, multiple scouts told The Post. At the next level, he will play on the wing, and needs to improve his athleticism, ball-handling and on-ball defense, the evaluators said.“What’s he going to lose by going back?” one of the scouts asked. “I don’t see how he has a bad season unless he just doesn’t make shots.”
As skilled as Alvarado is in shooting and playmaking , a 6 foot guard is not the prototype NBA guard. Maybe the G League or Europe is his ultimate future . He appears to want to play more BB and maybe make some $$$ doing it . No harm in that . And , he graduated from GA Tech with a degree . He’s got a good education in his pocket .
Anthony Mattia
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2nd lowest lane agility time, 2nd lowest non center standing vertical, 2nd lowest non center max vertical. Basically all of the things we have been saying for monthsDuke of Earlington post=435438 said: