Welcome back Julian!

BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.

Right. And I would not discount the value of an education to him and his family.
 
While there may be some disagreement about what is best for Julian's professional aspirations, there should be unanimous agreement that returning to the school and the team is great for the program and the fans. Losing your best player, who also happens to be a quiet leader, would likely have made this as close to a rebuilding year as a team can get. I hope I'm not celebrating too soon, but it's nice to see the possession arrow leaning our way.
 
Room112 post=433922 said:
BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.

Right. And I would not discount the value of an education to him and his family.
Supposedly, it (education) is important based on what I heard.  That's not to say he wouldn't pass up on guaranteed money, but it says he'll likely wise decision.
 
MJDinkins post=433925 said:
Room112 post=433922 said:
BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.

Right. And I would not discount the value of an education to him and his family.
Supposedly, it (education) is important based on what I heard.  That's not to say he wouldn't pass up on guaranteed money, but it says he'll likely wise decision.
 
I am on the other side of the education piece.  Not that it isn't important, but that if he leaves school he can never finish.  If he plans on playing basketball professionally, that will be for a finite amount of time.  If he is lucky he will play into his late 30's so you are looking at a 15-20 year career at max (usually).  After that he can go back to school and should be financially able to do so.
 
Anthony Mattia post=433927 said:
MJDinkins post=433925 said:
Room112 post=433922 said:
BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.

Right. And I would not discount the value of an education to him and his family.
Supposedly, it (education) is important based on what I heard.  That's not to say he wouldn't pass up on guaranteed money, but it says he'll likely wise decision.

 
I am on the other side of the education piece.  Not that it isn't important, but that if he leaves school he can never finish.  If he plans on playing basketball professionally, that will be for a finite amount of time.  If he is lucky he will play into his late 30's so you are looking at a 15-20 year career at max (usually).  After that he can go back to school and should be financially able to do so.
I don't disagree at all with you.  But maybe Julian has things he wants to accomplish before he moves forward as a professional.
 
fordham96 post=433847 said:
That maybe true.  But let's all agree outside of being fans we have zero skin in the game so to speak.  

My larger point is we should never substitute our own judgement for that of the actual player.  If he comes back and gets injured or whatever we don't pay that price he does.

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fordham96 post=433805 said:


Agreed.  The problem is what he thinks is best for him now might not look like the best option in hindsight a few years down the road.


I agree again.  All I can post is what I think I would do or what I would like to see my kid do under the circumstances.

I'd like to say I'd value the experience, the degree, etc... But if my kid is sure his career is going to be professional basketball player and if the experts tell him he's not going to improve his draft stock or even greatly increase his skills and earning potential overseas by returning I'm telling him to go pro too.  However, if my kid looks like someone that can make the jump with one more year that's going to provide ROI so I try and convince him to return as a financial decision.

I recall when Mo declared and I was sure he would be a borderline 1st round pick but a lottery pick if he returned.  Of course he was smarter than I was and got the lottery money by staying so even if we think we know, we usually don't know.  
 
BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.
yummy friend are on the same message chain as us so you know our friend and his connections the inly important thing is you invite me to your craft beer thing :)
 
mjmaherjr post=433953 said:
BrookJersey Redmen post=433903 said:
MJ and OLV hit the nail on the head.

Here's my hope--- he comes back, gets his degree in 3 years (easy enough at SJU) and is POY and leading scorer in the BE, second team AA, and mid first round selection in 2022.

On the other hand if he goes, I wish him all the luck in the world, a great kid from a legacy family and one class act.
yummy friend are on the same message chain as us so you know our friend and his connections the inly important thing is you invite me to your craft beer thing :)
If you can refer to someone as "yummy" the are way more than just a "friend"...just sayin'.   
 
Mjm's phone must be infected with usguards user approved type ahead dictionary.
 
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Julian Champagnie just got a first round grade for the 2022 nba draft by Bleacher Report & Jonathan Wasserman


27. Denver Nuggets: Julian Champagnie (St. John's, SF, Junior)Twin brother Justin received more national recognition in the ACC, but scouts are also tracking Julian for his superior shooting. The 6'8" wing hit 2.4 threes per game and should be a 20-point scorer next year in the Big East. 
 
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Sju grad 13 post=433961 said:
Julian Champagnie just got a first round grade for the 2022 nba draft by Bleacher Report & Jonathan Wasserman


27. Denver Nuggets: Julian Champagnie (St. John's, SF, Junior)Twin brother Justin received more national recognition in the ACC, but scouts are also tracking Julian for his superior shooting. The 6'8" wing hit 2.4 threes per game and should be a 20-point scorer next year in the Big East. 


That’s 2022 everyone!
 
Amaseinyourface post=433962 said:
Sju grad 13 post=433961 said:
Julian Champagnie just got a first round grade for the 2022 nba draft by Bleacher Report & Jonathan Wasserman


27. Denver Nuggets: Julian Champagnie (St. John's, SF, Junior)Twin brother Justin received more national recognition in the ACC, but scouts are also tracking Julian for his superior shooting. The 6'8" wing hit 2.4 threes per game and should be a 20-point scorer next year in the Big East. 


That’s 2022 everyone!

LoL I was about to say. Why would they tout him as a 20 PPG scorer in the Big East best year in a summary of him getting drafted this year.
 
I didn't want to post this but I've been thinking about it for awhile. 

Is Julian miffed at all about the great year he had yet he was still 'snubbed' for many things.  Led BE in scoring but wasn't unanimous 1st team.  Therefore didn't win BE POY.  Didn't win Haggerty.  Just wonder we all felt he was 'the man' for us and did amazing this year but for all of that he still came up short.

Maybe I'm bored too /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png
 
I think that Julian will listen to his parents advice.
There are so many sound reasons for him to stay
in college for another year and he has the
right parents with the right value system.

I have enough confidence in our coach and the
staffs recruiting ability, that more good stuff is in the works.
Let's just all stay healthy and  enjoy a banner year because

WE DESERVE IT !!!!
 
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allnet post=433989 said:
I think that Julian will listen to his parents advice.
There are so many sound reasons for him to stay
in college for another year and he has the
right parents with the right value system.

I have enough confidence in our coach and the
staffs recruiting ability, that more good stuff is in the works.
Let's just all stay healthy and  enjoy a banner year because

WE DESERVE IT !!!!
We can speculate based on past articles, but we don't 100 percent know what that advice is, though.

Are they giving the same advice to each son? 
 
Moose post=433982 said:
I didn't want to post this but I've been thinking about it for awhile. 

Is Julian miffed at all about the great year he had yet he was still 'snubbed' for many things.  Led BE in scoring but wasn't unanimous 1st team.  Therefore didn't win BE POY.  Didn't win Haggerty.  Just wonder we all felt he was 'the man' for us and did amazing this year but for all of that he still came up short.

Maybe I'm bored too /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png

Personally, I don't see that.  He lost out to older players (POY) and Haggerty to a senior that had a comparable season.  He received plenty of accolades, including consistent coverage from the NY Post praising him, which probably matters most for a NY kid that was an under-the-radar recruit.  And if he returns those accolades are only going to increase ten-fold leading up to the season and, potentially, more accolades and exposure if he has a good year.  He's going to be the presumptive POY (perhaps along with Gillespie) if he returns.
 
 
Hope So. All parents love to see their children play together 
as  teammates.
Practically all of Pitts starters have left.  So if his brother remains

in college why not with his brother , near home, near his folks, MSG
and big city exposure for basketball and future business connections.
 
allnet post=433998 said:
Hope So. All parents love to see their children play together 
as  teammates.
Practically all of Pitts starters have left.  So if his brother remains

in college why not with his brother , near home, near his folks, MSG
and big city exposure for basketball and future business connections.
Justin is staying put in the NBA Draft. 
 
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