Vaccine

Anyone else wants to try and get an appointment at Numc for the vaccine either reply here or send me a message.  I send out a little info to the vaccine center there.  Then based on where in line you are and supply you get appointment slot.  They are supposedly getting replenishment vaccine doses in next week and they are still encouraging staff to reach out.  So it might not be a day or 2 as it was when they opened this option up but I would think within a week now since more staff has reached out to the community.  I give my hospital credit.  They have really utilized all their inventory well and will continue to try hard to help vaccinate as many as we can there. 
 
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My parents, both in their late 70s, got the vaccine (Moderna) yesterday.  Mom has some minor soreness at the injection site, but otherwise they feel fine.  This is a big relief for us!
 
JohnnyFan" post=414325 said:
My parents, both in their late 70s, got the vaccine (Moderna) yesterday.  Mom has some minor soreness at the injection site, but otherwise they feel fine.  This is a big relief for us!

 
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When I think of the line jumpers, whether healthcare admnistrators and executives who received the vaccine and should have been further down the priority list, or those who simply gamed the system, I think of people like your parents, or my family's four 90+ year old aunts and uncles.   For every vaccine given to a someone who should not be vaccinated at this time, some people in the higher risk categories who are left unvaccinated will get sick and die.   

I've read these stories of human decency and valor who were passengers on the Titanic.   Some men of welath and influence were offered seats on the life boats, but declined to because there were women and children on board who would instead die.   To a very large extent, we've lost that in our culture.  
 
It's easy to game the system in New Jersey. 
I know. I did it purposefully to see where I could land. 
In NJ's registration portal, I put in that I had hypertension. My BP spikes at times (who's doesn't?) but it's a gross exaggeration to say I have hypertension. 
A few days ago, I got an email that I'm eligible presumably because of my "underlying condition." 
No documentation is needed to prove I have hypertension. 
Now I'm as eligible at a 90 yo with COPD or a 45 yo with lung cancer or an 18 yo on a respirator. 
I'm not going to take advantage of this even if vaccines were plentiful. I'm healthy and 80% of NJ's 20K dead are 65+. I will gladly wait for my (real) turn. 
But how many people are getting shots this way?




 
 
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I'm hoping to get my first shot on Friday when my town of Mooresville is holding a first come, first serve drive by vaccine clinic for those 65 and older. If they run out before I get to the front of the line, they are doing appointments in a town 30 minutes away so pretty confident I can get the first shot in the next 3-4 weeks.  
 
As MainMan said, NJ's system is rife with problems.

MY wife and I are both over 65 and have 2-3 major underlying conditions (real ones), we both registered to get our name on the list.

We were told to wait for a second e amil after that to get a link to be able to try to make an appointment.

I got the second e mail, but my wife who's underlying diabetes is worse than mine, still has not gotten her second e mail so she cannot try to get an appointment.

After a week of getting shut out, I got an appointment. Regardless of the appointment, there was a 45 mintue wait outside an academy in the cold and wind (not complaining about that part, just sayin'). (Nice gesture by us in line, there was an elderlw woman with a cane, was on line, we told her to go sit in her warm car until we were all at the front of the line and we would let her back in.)

Moderna, no side effects, but they are supposed to, but did not give an appointment for the second dose; I guess the many hours spent on the computer and telephone for the first shot will have to be repeated for the second shot.

Releived to get the shot, but very anxious for my wife to get hers.

All in all, I would say, NJ is not doing a very good job with rolling this vaccine out there.
So many stories like MainMan, under 65, no problem, just say you smoke, boom, you get lumped in with over 65+ because of your underlying condition.
 
Just sent a copy to Florida Health of what I think is a phishing e-mail sent to people waiting for the vaccine.  If true, it starts to overcome my distaste for capital punishment.
 
J&J came out today with its one-shot vaccine efficacy announcement.

While a lot of folks are focusing  on the 66%-72% effectiveness vs Pfizer and Moderna's 90+%, this is the most important part of the J&J/Janssen press release:

"The Janssen COVID-19 vaccine candidate demonstrated complete protection against COVID-related hospitalization and death, 28 days post-vaccination. There was a clear effect of the vaccine on COVID-19 cases requiring medical intervention (hospitalization, ICU admission, mechanical ventilation, extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO)), with no reported cases among participants who had received the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, 28 days post-vaccination."
 
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Does anyone know how they arrive at the 72% number in human trials?  Are they exposing everyone in human trials to Covid?   Or is it just that 72% of those in the trial did not contract Covid post vaccination?   If that's the case, it would have to be compared to the infection rate in the general unvaccinated population.
 
I'm seeing a fair number of under 25 year olds not in patinet facing roles getting the vaccine.  Even if in retail stores, or hospital employees, they should not be getting it before those in general population.

One of the dumber comments this week was if you wear a mask you won't get Covid, simple as that.   

Everyone should wear a mask no doubt, but wearing a mask is not 100% effective against contracting Covid.    This does not absolve anyone from not wearing a mask, quite the opposite.  Wear a mask, and keep social distnacing, and away from others as much as reasonably possible.
 
It's just crazy to think that something as relatively simple objective as organizing vaccine distribution efficiently is such a cluster.  Sure there are lots of ideas on best way to do it but sadly it's not about ideas.  If the products are available, this should take weeks at most, not months to get everyone injected who wants it. Then there would be less drama over who is at front of the line.
 
MainMan" post=415324 said:
J&J came out today with its one-shot vaccine efficacy announcement.

While a lot of folks are focusing  on the 66%-72% effectiveness vs Pfizer and Moderna's 90+%, this is the most important part of the J&J/Janssen press release:

"The Janssen COVID-19 vaccine candidate demonstrated complete protection against COVID-related hospitalization and death, 28 days post-vaccination. There was a clear effect of the vaccine on COVID-19 cases requiring medical intervention (hospitalization, ICU admission, mechanical ventilation, extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO)), with no reported cases among participants who had received the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, 28 days post-vaccination."
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I think the hospitalization thing applied to the south african strain as well
 
The j and j vaccine will work fine and will be effective . The single dosing will help people get vaccinated quicker.  The biggest key is getting it out to as many people as possible.  Less "wood to burn". The more people that are vaccinated, the less spread and cases are less severe.
 
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I returned to Florida last week to receive my second shot Pfizer shot. I was told my my physician to take 2 tylenole tablets before the shot.

Now I see contradicting information whether the tylenol partially negated the effects of the second shot.  

The CDC website says that it is OK to take the tylenol before the second injection, but a recent news article I read quoted a physician who said to not take the tylenol before the shot.
 
RedStormNC" post=415467 said:
It's just crazy to think that something as relatively simple objective as organizing vaccine distribution efficiently is such a cluster.  Sure there are lots of ideas on best way to do it but sadly it's not about ideas.  If the products are available, this should take weeks at most, not months to get everyone injected who wants it. Then there would be less drama over who is at front of the line.
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You would think there could be a national registry system, or even better yet, that the states could contact the citizenry who by age are eligible or by profession are eligible.  All you'd have to do is register based on a number provided by the government, show up and show proof of employment in the licensed profession, and your ID for proof of age.   They should have worked backwards starting with those age 85 and above.

I am not even sure people registered to get the vaccine had to show proof of age or even identification.  
 
Knight" post=415490 said:
FYI -OTC drugs
https://nypost.com/2021/01/29/over-the-counter-drugs-could-dim-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness/
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I'd have to search the article but it appears that the Duke study was not based on the Covid vaccine, which has a different mechanism of action than traditional vaccines.   I think this is just a warning without the data to back it up, and could possibly be a study to consider as to whether there is any evidence that non-narcotic analgesics (acetaminophen is in this cateogry), or NSAIDs (non steroidal anti-inflammatory agents - ibuprofen and naproxen are two examples, can inhibit the immune response to a vaccine.  I guess anything is possible, and at this point better to err on this side of caution.
 
Beast of the East" post=415489 said:
RedStormNC" post=415467 said:
It's just crazy to think that something as relatively simple objective as organizing vaccine distribution efficiently is such a cluster.  Sure there are lots of ideas on best way to do it but sadly it's not about ideas.  If the products are available, this should take weeks at most, not months to get everyone injected who wants it. Then there would be less drama over who is at front of the line.
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You would think there could be a national registry system, or even better yet, that the states could contact the citizenry who by age are eligible or by profession are eligible.  All you'd have to do is register based on a number provided by the government, show up and show proof of employment in the licensed profession, and your ID for proof of age.   They should have worked backwards starting with those age 85 and above.

I am not even sure people registered to get the vaccine had to show proof of age or even identification.  



They sure know how to find you if you owe or they think you owe them money though.

 
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Just got my vaccine. I'm a dentist and over 65 and it took a lot of work and research to finally get an appointment. 
 
hi, i am on vaccine lists with 3 counties plus the VA.
for sarasota county i am # 6190. there are over 106,000 on the list.
then this morning
i get notified that i will getting the vaccine on wednesday the 3rd of february, just before SJU beats nova.
 
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