UCONN back to Big East?

[quote="Mike Zaun" post=353183]Lavin recruited well here because he was a good recruiter (at first). That was with UConn here towards the end of their "blue blood" era in the old Big East. If the theory is true that UConn renders us useless to recruits, why did we get so many top notch guys with UConn in our conference at their best? Because it's not UConn at all...it's us. If we lose out on recruits to UConn, we still would have whether they were in the AAC or in the Big East. Who cares about local recruiting? Of course we try to keep the best NYC area kids home, but they don't want to be home 99% of the time. We all know this. With kids going to different states for HS/AAU and the trend of kids not wanting to stay home for NYC exclusively, who cares about them? Of course we will try, but I don't care if we get a kid from Missouri or Long Island. As long as we get kids who fit the system and play as a team without being divas who leave immediately. Our competition is ourselves first and foremost. Failure or success is our choice, not UConn's. When you really think about it, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory being peddled. No one's holding us back but us.[/quote]

UCONN won a championship in 2014. What did we win with Lavin's recruits?

If UCONN isn't formidable any longer, why do we want them in the Big East and why would it strengthen our TV contract? The expectation is that they are premier brand, and once Hurley can sell UCONN's presence at the BET, away games at MSG and Meadowlands to area recruits, the expectation is from media is that they will return to that.

If the last 30 years have taught us any lessons, it's that returning year in and year out at the top of the Big East is a very tall order. Yea, you don't shy away from competition, but in an 11 team conference that reasonably will still get 4-5 bids at most in a season, this just makes it that much tougher to get to the dance each season. If anyone doubts that, I will take bets on which program will get more NCAA bids over the next 5 seasons and I will take UCONN. Even before UCONN, smart money would say 2 bids at most over next 5 for St. John's.

I'm not afraid of competition. I compete every day against behemoth sized companies compared to mine. I'm saying that realistically this makes things much tougher for SJU to return to elite status in the league. VIllanova is at the top, Georgetown on the rise, Marquette solid even with their defections, etc, etc, etc. It's a tough enough league.

We gave UCONN a gift that helps them immensely whereby I don't think any other major conference was wooing them. Their fortunes just turned northward in a hurry.

The Big East will make more money, no doubt. The league is strengthened, no doubt. But if the league is stronger, how does SJU benefit from that in the W-L column?
 
[quote="Adam" post=353199]Not sure if this is official, but...

https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1143955459570831361

So, expect UConn to be here until at least the early 2030s. By then their football program will be completely dead so I don't see them ever leaving.[/quote]

Why did UCONN accept that? Because no major football conference wanted them, and that's where the real money is. They can drop football and return to profitability in the Big East, but the point is that the Big East was the best landing spot for them so they weren't a flight risk to begin with.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353217][quote="Mike Zaun" post=353183]Lavin recruited well here because he was a good recruiter (at first). That was with UConn here towards the end of their "blue blood" era in the old Big East. If the theory is true that UConn renders us useless to recruits, why did we get so many top notch guys with UConn in our conference at their best? Because it's not UConn at all...it's us. If we lose out on recruits to UConn, we still would have whether they were in the AAC or in the Big East. Who cares about local recruiting? Of course we try to keep the best NYC area kids home, but they don't want to be home 99% of the time. We all know this. With kids going to different states for HS/AAU and the trend of kids not wanting to stay home for NYC exclusively, who cares about them? Of course we will try, but I don't care if we get a kid from Missouri or Long Island. As long as we get kids who fit the system and play as a team without being divas who leave immediately. Our competition is ourselves first and foremost. Failure or success is our choice, not UConn's. When you really think about it, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory being peddled. No one's holding us back but us.[/quote]

UCONN won a championship in 2014. What did we win with Lavin's recruits?

If UCONN isn't formidable any longer, why do we want them in the Big East and why would it strengthen our TV contract? The expectation is that they are premier brand, and once Hurley can sell UCONN's presence at the BET, away games at MSG and Meadowlands to area recruits, the expectation is from media is that they will return to that.

If the last 30 years have taught us any lessons, it's that returning year in and year out at the top of the Big East is a very tall order. Yea, you don't shy away from competition, but in an 11 team conference that reasonably will still get 4-5 bids at most in a season, this just makes it that much tougher to get to the dance each season. If anyone doubts that, I will take bets on which program will get more NCAA bids over the next 5 seasons and I will take UCONN. Even before UCONN, smart money would say 2 bids at most over next 5 for St. John's.

I'm not afraid of competition. I compete every day against behemoth sized companies compared to mine. I'm saying that realistically this makes things much tougher for SJU to return to elite status in the league. VIllanova is at the top, Georgetown on the rise, Marquette solid even with their defections, etc, etc, etc. It's a tough enough league.

We gave UCONN a gift that helps them immensely whereby I don't think any other major conference was wooing them. Their fortunes just turned northward in a hurry.

The Big East will make more money, no doubt. The league is strengthened, no doubt. But if the league is stronger, how does SJU benefit from that in the W-L column?[/quote]

We benefit when we start beating UConn. Shying away fromBetter teams entering the conference is never the answer. We need to get our house in order to win games. SJU was stronger when we had a stronger Big East, period.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=353219][quote="Beast of the East" post=353217][quote="Mike Zaun" post=353183]Lavin recruited well here because he was a good recruiter (at first). That was with UConn here towards the end of their "blue blood" era in the old Big East. If the theory is true that UConn renders us useless to recruits, why did we get so many top notch guys with UConn in our conference at their best? Because it's not UConn at all...it's us. If we lose out on recruits to UConn, we still would have whether they were in the AAC or in the Big East. Who cares about local recruiting? Of course we try to keep the best NYC area kids home, but they don't want to be home 99% of the time. We all know this. With kids going to different states for HS/AAU and the trend of kids not wanting to stay home for NYC exclusively, who cares about them? Of course we will try, but I don't care if we get a kid from Missouri or Long Island. As long as we get kids who fit the system and play as a team without being divas who leave immediately. Our competition is ourselves first and foremost. Failure or success is our choice, not UConn's. When you really think about it, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory being peddled. No one's holding us back but us.[/quote]

UCONN won a championship in 2014. What did we win with Lavin's recruits?

If UCONN isn't formidable any longer, why do we want them in the Big East and why would it strengthen our TV contract? The expectation is that they are premier brand, and once Hurley can sell UCONN's presence at the BET, away games at MSG and Meadowlands to area recruits, the expectation is from media is that they will return to that.

If the last 30 years have taught us any lessons, it's that returning year in and year out at the top of the Big East is a very tall order. Yea, you don't shy away from competition, but in an 11 team conference that reasonably will still get 4-5 bids at most in a season, this just makes it that much tougher to get to the dance each season. If anyone doubts that, I will take bets on which program will get more NCAA bids over the next 5 seasons and I will take UCONN. Even before UCONN, smart money would say 2 bids at most over next 5 for St. John's.

I'm not afraid of competition. I compete every day against behemoth sized companies compared to mine. I'm saying that realistically this makes things much tougher for SJU to return to elite status in the league. VIllanova is at the top, Georgetown on the rise, Marquette solid even with their defections, etc, etc, etc. It's a tough enough league.

We gave UCONN a gift that helps them immensely whereby I don't think any other major conference was wooing them. Their fortunes just turned northward in a hurry.

The Big East will make more money, no doubt. The league is strengthened, no doubt. But if the league is stronger, how does SJU benefit from that in the W-L column?[/quote]

We benefit when we start beating UConn. Shying away fromBetter teams entering the conference is never the answer. We need to get our house in order to win games. SJU was stronger when we had a stronger Big East, period.[/quote]

When was the last time we could consistently beat good teams yea rin and year out in the Big East?
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353221][quote="MCNPA" post=353219][quote="Beast of the East" post=353217][quote="Mike Zaun" post=353183]Lavin recruited well here because he was a good recruiter (at first). That was with UConn here towards the end of their "blue blood" era in the old Big East. If the theory is true that UConn renders us useless to recruits, why did we get so many top notch guys with UConn in our conference at their best? Because it's not UConn at all...it's us. If we lose out on recruits to UConn, we still would have whether they were in the AAC or in the Big East. Who cares about local recruiting? Of course we try to keep the best NYC area kids home, but they don't want to be home 99% of the time. We all know this. With kids going to different states for HS/AAU and the trend of kids not wanting to stay home for NYC exclusively, who cares about them? Of course we will try, but I don't care if we get a kid from Missouri or Long Island. As long as we get kids who fit the system and play as a team without being divas who leave immediately. Our competition is ourselves first and foremost. Failure or success is our choice, not UConn's. When you really think about it, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory being peddled. No one's holding us back but us.[/quote]

UCONN won a championship in 2014. What did we win with Lavin's recruits?

If UCONN isn't formidable any longer, why do we want them in the Big East and why would it strengthen our TV contract? The expectation is that they are premier brand, and once Hurley can sell UCONN's presence at the BET, away games at MSG and Meadowlands to area recruits, the expectation is from media is that they will return to that.

If the last 30 years have taught us any lessons, it's that returning year in and year out at the top of the Big East is a very tall order. Yea, you don't shy away from competition, but in an 11 team conference that reasonably will still get 4-5 bids at most in a season, this just makes it that much tougher to get to the dance each season. If anyone doubts that, I will take bets on which program will get more NCAA bids over the next 5 seasons and I will take UCONN. Even before UCONN, smart money would say 2 bids at most over next 5 for St. John's.

I'm not afraid of competition. I compete every day against behemoth sized companies compared to mine. I'm saying that realistically this makes things much tougher for SJU to return to elite status in the league. VIllanova is at the top, Georgetown on the rise, Marquette solid even with their defections, etc, etc, etc. It's a tough enough league.

We gave UCONN a gift that helps them immensely whereby I don't think any other major conference was wooing them. Their fortunes just turned northward in a hurry.

The Big East will make more money, no doubt. The league is strengthened, no doubt. But if the league is stronger, how does SJU benefit from that in the W-L column?[/quote]

We benefit when we start beating UConn. Shying away fromBetter teams entering the conference is never the answer. We need to get our house in order to win games. SJU was stronger when we had a stronger Big East, period.[/quote]

When was the last time we could consistently beat good teams yea rin and year out in the Big East?[/quote]

We haven’t. We hired awful coaches for decades. That’s the problem, not other teams. Can Iron Mike do it? I think he’s a pretty good coach but it remains to be seen.

I will add, after reading the UConn boards, nothing has humbled them. They are still the most vile around. We need to get better or this will certainly annoy us forever. They are vile.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=353220][quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.[/quote]

The guy hasn’t had a losing season in what , 17 yrs? No, he’s never won a National Championship but I don’t know what these people were expecting. The guy never had a losing season while at these schools. If he can’t recruit then how did he continue to win? I understand player development but you still need a certain level of talent. Just seems like they’re being very hard on the guy.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353220][quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.[/quote]

The Missouri people are FOS. He never had a losing record there and his final three seasons there he was 77-29 which means he was awful winning 73% of his games. His overall winning percentage was 66% at Mizzou. Oregon tried to hire him. Even at Arkansas he won 62% of his games. Granted those winning percentages pale in comparison to Tim Cluess who racked up his wins at CW Post and in the MAAC but I'll give extra credit to coach Anderson who had to win in the Southeast Conference and Big 12.
Recruiting is a valid concern but some folks think this is the finest staff CMA has ever assembled. Van Macon, DeMeo, Pressey, TJ Cleveland along with Mike Anderson is arguably the most experienced staff ever assembled at St. John's.
They have to undo the image of mediocrity created by the pitiful records of the last 4 coaches who combined have never come close to CMA's winning percentages.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=353198][quote="Mike Zaun" post=353183]Lavin recruited well here because he was a good recruiter (at first). That was with UConn here towards the end of their "blue blood" era in the old Big East. If the theory is true that UConn renders us useless to recruits, why did we get so many top notch guys with UConn in our conference at their best? [/quote]

I told one of our fans the same thing a few days ago.

Our competition is ourselves first and foremost. Failure or success is our choice, not UConn's. When you really think about it, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory being peddled. No one's holding us back but us.
Click to expand...

I practically told that same fan this as well.[/quote]

Excuse me while I look out my window to see Uconn fans flying errrrrrr I mean pigs flying.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353220][quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.[/quote]

Was the hotel concierge or your uber driver a UAB grad?

72 hit the nail on the head but the Missouri fans must have really had an unhealthy hard on for Quinn Snyder's final 3 years of 12-16 wins.
 
Beast of the East wrote: The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful".

Have no idea what "once he ran out of family families to recruit" even means but given that in his last three years at that Big 12 school he won 73% of his games, made the dance all three years and won 4 NCAA tourney games, not sure anything those folks say is worth repeating...
 
They already go after the same kids we do. I'm not afraid of the competition. I just want traitors to twist in the wind until they die.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=353238]Beast of the East wrote: The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful".

Have no idea what "once he ran out of family families to recruit" even means but given that in his last three years at that Big 12 school he won 73% of his games, made the dance all three years and won 4 NCAA tourney games, not sure anything those folks say is worth repeating...[/quote]

People in Missouri are among the most racist pieces of shit you will ever come across. I wouldn't listen to any opinion of theirs when it comes to a black coach.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353218][quote="Adam" post=353199]Not sure if this is official, but...

https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1143955459570831361

So, expect UConn to be here until at least the early 2030s. By then their football program will be completely dead so I don't see them ever leaving.[/quote]

Why did UCONN accept that? Because no major football conference wanted them, and that's where the real money is. They can drop football and return to profitability in the Big East, but the point is that the Big East was the best landing spot for them so they weren't a flight risk to begin with.[/quote]

Of course, but they're still a risk to leave... just a much, much lower risk than a few years ago. Their football has completely plummeted which is why the Big East let them in. Still an outside chance they are invited as a basketball only member to a P5 somewhere down the line, but I doubt it as these moves have always been about football. I'd be shocked if they're still playing FBS football 10 years from now.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=353220][quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.[/quote]

Recruiting for the last 3 years (according to 247 composite):

Arkansas:
2018: #38 nationally
2017: #36 nationally
2016: #29 nationally
3 year avg: #34 nationally
3 year total: 7 four stars

Missouri:
2018: #59 nationally
2017: #4 nationally
2016: #68 nationally
3 year avg: #44 nationally
3 year total: 2 five stars, 3 four stars

The Missouri fans you were talking with are morons.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=353231][quote="Beast of the East" post=353220][quote="Class of 72" post=353203]
Cragg and the CMA staff have ushered in a new era. We will be recruiting both locally and nationally.
[/quote]

I just spent three days in Columbia Missouri at the doorsteps of Mizzou. My business is with some state officials, all of which are big basketball fans, one being a long time season ticket holder. I travelled there with a co-worker from Arkansas who is a big razorbacks fan. These guys all know I went to St. John's and have season tickets for years. The Missouri people were very negative on Anderson as a coach, saying "Once he ran out of family families to recruit, he was awful". The Arkansas guy said he was a good bench coach, but couldn't recruit at a high level. All seemed to agree he is a decent coach but not a very good recruiter. So we will see I guess.[/quote]

The Missouri people are FOS. He never had a losing record there and his final three seasons there he was 77-29 which means he was awful winning 73% of his games. His overall winning percentage was 66% at Mizzou. Oregon tried to hire him. Even at Arkansas he won 62% of his games. Granted those winning percentages pale in comparison to Tim Cluess who racked up his wins at CW Post and in the MAAC but I'll give extra credit to coach Anderson who had to win in the Southeast Conference and Big 12.
Recruiting is a valid concern but some folks think this is the finest staff CMA has ever assembled. Van Macon, DeMeo, Pressey, TJ Cleveland along with Mike Anderson is arguably the most experienced staff ever assembled at St. John's.
They have to undo the image of mediocrity created by the pitiful records of the last 4 coaches who combined have never come close to CMA's winning percentages.[/quote]
CMA competed in the dirtiest conference in the country. If you’re not cheating in the SEC, you’re not winning. Fact that he was competitive in spite of this gives me hope. Once he builds his cred in the NE, he will be fine.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=353218][quote="Adam" post=353199]Not sure if this is official, but...

https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1143955459570831361

So, expect UConn to be here until at least the early 2030s. By then their football program will be completely dead so I don't see them ever leaving.[/quote]

Why did UCONN accept that? Because no major football conference wanted them, and that's where the real money is. They can drop football and return to profitability in the Big East, but the point is that the Big East was the best landing spot for them so they weren't a flight risk to begin with.[/quote]

Agree. And let’s face it. If UCONN were to exit within six years, they will negotiate that $30 million exit fee down.
 
[quote="Tonyinfairfield " post=353251][quote="Beast of the East" post=353218][quote="Adam" post=353199]Not sure if this is official, but...

https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1143955459570831361

So, expect UConn to be here until at least the early 2030s. By then their football program will be completely dead so I don't see them ever leaving.[/quote]

Why did UCONN accept that? Because no major football conference wanted them, and that's where the real money is. They can drop football and return to profitability in the Big East, but the point is that the Big East was the best landing spot for them so they weren't a flight risk to begin with.[/quote]

Agree. And let’s face it. If UCONN were to exit within six years, they will negotiate that $30 million exit fee down.[/quote]

I doubt it. When Maryland left from the ACC to the Big Ten they were able to negotiate down the exit fee (by suing... lol), but that was a unique case with different circumstances. Since then I think pretty much everyone has paid the full amount. For example, UConn appears to be paying the full AAC exit fee of $10 million.
 
If Mike Anderson wins 65 percent of his games like he has in his career he would have the 7th highest winning percentage at SJU behind

James Freeman 9 years
Harry Fisher 1 year
Frank McGuire 5 years
Louie 24 years
Joe Lapchik 20 years
Frank Mulzoff 3 years
 
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