UCONN back to Big East?
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[quote="Tommy O 54" post=353759]Funny timing of this, back in the Big East and now they go after them, coincidental maybe but the NCAA will never surprise me![/quote]
It's coincidental.
They've been investigating this for some time and Ucon self-imposed sanctions back in January.
It's coincidental.
They've been investigating this for some time and Ucon self-imposed sanctions back in January.
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=353828][quote="Tommy O 54" post=353759]Funny timing of this, back in the Big East and now they go after them, coincidental maybe but the NCAA will never surprise me![/quote]
It's coincidental.
They've been investigating this for some time and Ucon self-imposed sanctions back in January.[/quote]
I know I was just breaking balls, let's see how the NCAA handles all these cheating blue bloods.....
It's coincidental.
They've been investigating this for some time and Ucon self-imposed sanctions back in January.[/quote]
I know I was just breaking balls, let's see how the NCAA handles all these cheating blue bloods.....
[quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.
[quote="Adam" post=354446][quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
I thought Army would have been a good fit. It would have given the conference a 12 team, two division set-up for football, and 10 schools for basketball. Army and Navy seem to have different philosophies on this subject.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
I thought Army would have been a good fit. It would have given the conference a 12 team, two division set-up for football, and 10 schools for basketball. Army and Navy seem to have different philosophies on this subject.
“In English, that means Connecticut will share fully in Big East Conference revenue from Day One. Contrast that with Rutgers and Maryland, which joined the Big Ten in 2014 but won’t get full revenue sharing within the conference until 2021. That key difference shows how UConn’s reunion with the Big East is good for both sides, because the Huskies get to renew some of their old men’s basketball rivalries and to play the conference tournament in Madison Square Garden, as opposed to Fort Worth, Texas, where the AAC will play its men’s hoop tourney the next three years.”
Full piece
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/j...ce-between-uconn-and-the-american-conference/[/URL]
Full piece
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/j...ce-between-uconn-and-the-american-conference/[/URL]
I think an overlooked benefit oh the UCONN basket program is the ladies program. Most of the Big East programs will elevate their program with the opportunity to compete against them.
Looking forward to increased quality among the members, which will probably mean an attendance and greater revenue. Also with UCONN a perrenial national contender we will all share in the dollars as they advance in the tourney.
Looking forward to increased quality among the members, which will probably mean an attendance and greater revenue. Also with UCONN a perrenial national contender we will all share in the dollars as they advance in the tourney.
[quote="Adam" post=354446][quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.
[quote="SJU85" post=354486][quote="Adam" post=354446][quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.
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[quote="Adam" post=354488][quote="SJU85" post=354486][quote="Adam" post=354446][quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.[/quote]
You raised a good point about Wichita State so I will say all but them play FBS football. As for adding another team from the BE if one were available would mess up the 20 game round robin schedule. To add if there were to add, Creighton would be a candidate for many of the reasons Wichita State was.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.[/quote]
You raised a good point about Wichita State so I will say all but them play FBS football. As for adding another team from the BE if one were available would mess up the 20 game round robin schedule. To add if there were to add, Creighton would be a candidate for many of the reasons Wichita State was.
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New Haven Register: "Ray Allen seeking protective order against UConn"
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL]
[quote="Coaster" post=354506]New Haven Register: "Ray Allen seeking protective order against UConn"
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...
[quote="SJU85" post=354490][quote="Adam" post=354488][quote="SJU85" post=354486][quote="Adam" post=354446][quote="Paultzman" post=354442]Rothstein
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.[/quote]
You raised a good point about Wichita State so I will say all but them play FBS football. As for adding another team from the BE if one were available would mess up the 20 game round robin schedule. To add if there were to add, Creighton would be a candidate for many of the reasons Wichita State was.[/quote]
I mentioned Creighton just because the AAC already has Wichita St (similar location), but yeah they'd probably still take them. The AAC would probably also take DePaul because they are recruiting well now. I could see the AAC taking any of our members if available (which would obviously never happen since nobody would leave the Big East for the AAC).
I don't think the AAC's 11 members will go to 20 games and do the round robin. Round robin is only worth it when the bottom feeders in your conference aren't NET/RPI killers. For any conference not doing round robin (>10 or 11 teams), they schedule fewer cupcake games for the top tier teams. Duke for instance is more likely to play UNC or Syracuse 2X and bottom feeders like Wake Forest or GT only 1X. Top tier teams like Memphis and Cincy don't have any upside in playing teams like ECU or Tulane. As we saw this year, the Committee doesn't care about how many wins you have but rather the quality of your Q1/Q2 wins.
I don't think it'd be smart for the American to go to 20 games/round robin (which is why they currently aren't doing that and staying at 18), so adding a 12th team would have no impact on that. I think they would have added another basketball team if any of the candidates were worth it.
Mike Aresco told reporters at American Conference Media Day in Newport that the league has no plans to expand following UConn's departure. Will stay at 11.[/quote]
If the AAC doesn't think the current expansion candidates are worth it (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, Buffalo, etc), it just goes to show how little value those teams bring. I'm glad the Big East never settled for mediocre or risky (Gonzaga) additions.[/quote]
The fact that Buffalo is the only team on your list that plays FBS football which every school in the AAC does and they can play 20 league basketball games with each team playing each other twice might have more to do with the reason not to expand.[/quote]
I agree that generally football runs things in conference realignment. There have been some exceptions though, such as the AAC adding Wichita St last year.
UConn is a bit of a unique case since they'd be replacing a terrible football / excellent basketball team. I figured they might want to get another basketball only member like VCU so they wouldn't take too much of a hit losing their flagship basketball program. That seems more important than staying at 11 teams for a conference that has some REALLY bad teams at the bottom that the upper teams would want to avoid (not schedule). 11 teams round robin for the Big East is different given that DePaul is much better than ECU. In the AAC I see no advantage to doing a double round robin besides consistency in the standings.
I'll just say this: if any of the Big East schools were available, with the possible exception of a couple like Creighton or DePaul, the AAC would pick them up in a heartbeat. Every member seems more valuable than Wichita St. There is a massive difference in the 11 teams in the Big East and the A10 expansion candidates. That brings me back to my original point: all the candidates available (besides UConn) would have been awful additions.[/quote]
You raised a good point about Wichita State so I will say all but them play FBS football. As for adding another team from the BE if one were available would mess up the 20 game round robin schedule. To add if there were to add, Creighton would be a candidate for many of the reasons Wichita State was.[/quote]
I mentioned Creighton just because the AAC already has Wichita St (similar location), but yeah they'd probably still take them. The AAC would probably also take DePaul because they are recruiting well now. I could see the AAC taking any of our members if available (which would obviously never happen since nobody would leave the Big East for the AAC).
I don't think the AAC's 11 members will go to 20 games and do the round robin. Round robin is only worth it when the bottom feeders in your conference aren't NET/RPI killers. For any conference not doing round robin (>10 or 11 teams), they schedule fewer cupcake games for the top tier teams. Duke for instance is more likely to play UNC or Syracuse 2X and bottom feeders like Wake Forest or GT only 1X. Top tier teams like Memphis and Cincy don't have any upside in playing teams like ECU or Tulane. As we saw this year, the Committee doesn't care about how many wins you have but rather the quality of your Q1/Q2 wins.
I don't think it'd be smart for the American to go to 20 games/round robin (which is why they currently aren't doing that and staying at 18), so adding a 12th team would have no impact on that. I think they would have added another basketball team if any of the candidates were worth it.
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[quote="Paul Massell" post=354508][quote="Coaster" post=354506]New Haven Register: "Ray Allen seeking protective order against UConn"
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...[/quote]
This article is amazing. Ollie supposedly had a conversation with a recruit and let Ray Allen talk to the recruit on the phone. This got him fired and a show cause order by the NCAA, unf--king believable. You have coaches on tape talking about payments to prospective athletes who are still employed. Carolina had bogus classes for years without any consequences, smh. Survival in college basketball is all about wins and losses.
Ollie's problem was having a losing season. If you think I am wrong, compare the violations committed in his time to those committed under Calhoun.
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...[/quote]
This article is amazing. Ollie supposedly had a conversation with a recruit and let Ray Allen talk to the recruit on the phone. This got him fired and a show cause order by the NCAA, unf--king believable. You have coaches on tape talking about payments to prospective athletes who are still employed. Carolina had bogus classes for years without any consequences, smh. Survival in college basketball is all about wins and losses.
Ollie's problem was having a losing season. If you think I am wrong, compare the violations committed in his time to those committed under Calhoun.
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[quote="Paul Massell" post=354508][quote="Coaster" post=354506]New Haven Register: "Ray Allen seeking protective order against UConn"
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...[/quote]
This is the kind of sleaze we have let back in to the Big East. Ray Allen made them millions of dollars and now they treat him like a criminal. Disgusting.
[URL]https://www.nhregister.com/uco...g-protective-order-against-UConn-14096789.php[/URL][/quote]
You have to hand it to Yukon. They are in elite company with UNC in terms of No Class...[/quote]
This is the kind of sleaze we have let back in to the Big East. Ray Allen made them millions of dollars and now they treat him like a criminal. Disgusting.