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The latest on Carter:
Robert Carter is one of the nation’s hottest basketball recruits after recently announcing his intentions to transfer from Georgia Tech.
More than 50 colleges have called to inquire about the 6-foot-8 forward, according to his AAU coach. Carter has two seasons of eligibility remaining.
“Robert had people calling from all over the place after he got his release from Tech,” said his AAU coach, Winfred Jordan of the Atlanta Xpress. “Kansas, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas, Cal, USC, UCLA and Florida are some of them. Everybody has been trying to get in.”
Carter took an official visit to St. John’s last week. He will likely go on a recruiting trip to South Carolina on Saturday, and then tour Maryland on Monday. He’s also trying to schedule a trip to Kansas.
“He enjoyed St. John’s,” Jordan said. “He thought the chance to play his home games at Madison Square Garden was unbelievable. It’s a big market, and Robert is a Southern kid, and those things kind of impress you.
“But at the end of the day, we just want to make sure that Robert is in the right situation with the right kind of people so he can try to accomplish what his dream is – that’s to get to the next level for basketball.”
Carter has a connection with South Carolina. “Frank Martin coached him when he went out for the USA team two years in a row for the USA trials,” Jordan said. “There’s a relationship there. They get along very well. Frank Martin is a guy he respects. He knows Frank Martin’s history. He’s had a guys very similar to Robert, and Frank Martin put them in situations for them to play in the NBA.”
What about Maryland? “Maryland has the No. 8 recruiting class in the country coming in,” Jordan said. “That makes it interesting. And his former AAU and high school teammate, Trayvon Reed — that’s where he is going.”
Carter hopes to have a decision made by the end of June, at the latest.
“He will be enrolling in somebody’s courses at a college by late June,” Jordan said.
“He just wants to make sure to go somewhere where he feels comfortable. He does his own research, and then he comes back to me and asks me what I think. Then it’s all about what he feels he likes because it’s his decision.
“Whatever is going to make Robert happy is what he needs to do because in the end, he’s going to have to live with it.”
Carter averaged 11.4 points and 8.4 rebounds this past season at Georgia tech. He will have to sit out next season, per NCAA transfer rules.
http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2014...s-for-former-georgia-tech-star-robert-carter/
Robert Carter is one of the nation’s hottest basketball recruits after recently announcing his intentions to transfer from Georgia Tech.
More than 50 colleges have called to inquire about the 6-foot-8 forward, according to his AAU coach. Carter has two seasons of eligibility remaining.
“Robert had people calling from all over the place after he got his release from Tech,” said his AAU coach, Winfred Jordan of the Atlanta Xpress. “Kansas, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas, Cal, USC, UCLA and Florida are some of them. Everybody has been trying to get in.”
Carter took an official visit to St. John’s last week. He will likely go on a recruiting trip to South Carolina on Saturday, and then tour Maryland on Monday. He’s also trying to schedule a trip to Kansas.
“He enjoyed St. John’s,” Jordan said. “He thought the chance to play his home games at Madison Square Garden was unbelievable. It’s a big market, and Robert is a Southern kid, and those things kind of impress you.
“But at the end of the day, we just want to make sure that Robert is in the right situation with the right kind of people so he can try to accomplish what his dream is – that’s to get to the next level for basketball.”
Carter has a connection with South Carolina. “Frank Martin coached him when he went out for the USA team two years in a row for the USA trials,” Jordan said. “There’s a relationship there. They get along very well. Frank Martin is a guy he respects. He knows Frank Martin’s history. He’s had a guys very similar to Robert, and Frank Martin put them in situations for them to play in the NBA.”
What about Maryland? “Maryland has the No. 8 recruiting class in the country coming in,” Jordan said. “That makes it interesting. And his former AAU and high school teammate, Trayvon Reed — that’s where he is going.”
Carter hopes to have a decision made by the end of June, at the latest.
“He will be enrolling in somebody’s courses at a college by late June,” Jordan said.
“He just wants to make sure to go somewhere where he feels comfortable. He does his own research, and then he comes back to me and asks me what I think. Then it’s all about what he feels he likes because it’s his decision.
“Whatever is going to make Robert happy is what he needs to do because in the end, he’s going to have to live with it.”
Carter averaged 11.4 points and 8.4 rebounds this past season at Georgia tech. He will have to sit out next season, per NCAA transfer rules.
http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2014...s-for-former-georgia-tech-star-robert-carter/
Which again is my point, those schools use a completely different model than it appears Lavin is following. Like I have posted, I would like to see up develop a consistent competitive program like VCU, Butler, etc. rather than the seemingly yearly "reloading" that seems to be the model Lavin is attempting to employ. Maybe I am wrong but that is the impression I am getting.
I don't disagree. In general, I think you almost always want the more talented player. I don't buy that it ever pays to have the less talented kid. But if you have relatively equal players, the guy more willing to accept his role can be infinitely more valuable. That's definitely true.
I also think what Paul said about creating an environment where the team comes first can go along way.
Lastly, I'm sure this will make some posters scream, but if you want to stop showcasing recruits and build a more consistent and fundamentally sound basketball program, then you need a fundamentally sound basketball coach, not a salesman. I'm not trying to stir the pot, I think that just speaks to what our objective is at this point, and what Lavin brings to the table. Many people wanted the program to make a splash, get headlines, and substantially improve the talent level of the recruits we bring in. Lavin has done that, and frankly that's what he's good at.
But if we're going to start talking about building a fundamentally sound, team-first, and consistent program ... then you begin to look for qualities in a head coach that Lavin might not posses in spades.
basketballjones
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The staff is only reloading if guys leave early. Harkless left early. Some say rightly so, some not. However, he did make it in the league and got first round money. Sampson left early. Some say that defies logic. You can't control a kid wanting to go early even if he's not ready. Just gotta find players. If he brought in all "program" players that stayed 4 years we would complain that there are not enough 4 and 5 stars to put us over the top in the Big East. If he recruits 4 and 5 star guys only, they leave early. I'd like to see 1 or 2 top 30 players every year and the rest 3 and 4 star guys that stick around. Do that consistently and we'll compete for the Big East championship every year.
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Great post Paul...in any walk of life (parenting, corporate life, coaching et al)...if you share expectations (i.e. roles and responsibilities) and the rationale and hold folks accountable, the results will follow as long as you have the right ingredients and the plan is sound
Great post Paul...in any walk of life (parenting, corporate life, coaching et al)...if you share expectations (i.e. roles and responsibilities) and the rationale and hold folks accountable, the results will follow as long as you have the right ingredients and the plan is sound
I guess that's where I differ with many on the board...I don't care what the rating of a player is, I would like to see a good basketball team. I want to see a plan, an approach, an identity. 5 years into Lavin's tenure I still have no idea what kind of program he is trying to build. We bring in athletes but don't force tempo, we bring in shooters and don't run plays for them, we skip an entire recruiting class and are now scrambling to find transfers and JUCOs while seemingly putting most of our recruiting on players I don't think will ultimately come here.
basketballjones
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I don't think that pov is different than most. Except he didn't skip the '14 class. The staff was definitely recruiting talented players. They just didn't land any of the high level recruits last fall. . That said, coach Lav has proven over time he can get players. The recruitment of players, this year notwithstanding, has improved. Establishing an identity, forcing tempo, putting players into position to score and defend speaks more to game prep and coaching. It frustrated people at UCLA and it does at St. John's too.
MarkRedman
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@AdamZagoria: Niagara transfer Antoine Mason is "not even close" to cutting his list, his dad tells #SNYtv
Shane Rector is a 6'1 combo guard. we need another guy who play the 3 this year. then I think we can really achieve something this year. I really like our guards and we can always go with a 3 guard offense. Villanova had a lot of success playing 4 guards and Dante Cunningham. But, Lavin bringing in another 6'5, 6,6 guy who can play the 3 and shoot some, then I think that's puts us in much better position going into this season.
When I say skip the class I didn't mean they weren't recruiting; bad choice of words maybe but I meant we got none of the recruits we targeted. And a big part of recruiting is getting players that fit your style, not just being ranked on statistical lists. But you need a style to recruit to satisfy it so I guess it becomes a chicken and egg thing.
STJClass_2013
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Video of Shane rector dunking on Chris obekpa.