Transfers SJU May Get Involved With

LOL. Be happy you are a Giants fan brotha. I can count on one hand how many franchises have had a better run over the past 30 years: 5 Super Bowl appearances, 4 wins - two of which are among the most historic W's ever in the big game, tons of great playoff games, and relatively few "down" years. There are about 25 NFL fan bases that would kill for the Gmen's success since the mid 80s.
 
So realize this isn't an original thought, but disappointed with our recruiting for this year. Hope we can land someone solid, and we still could, but as of now our recruiting is non-existentd.

Non -existent ?????
Guess the staff has me fooled. Simon who plays the 1-3 was a top 40 recruit.
Clark who plays the 3-4 was a top 50 recruit.
Mikey Dixon was the freshman of the year in his conference and should be a very proud important piece in 2018 and beyond.
We are in the final running for an up and coming 6 8 220 pound inside player.
Can't speak for others but I would take such a recruiting class each and every season.

Why did you cut off the second half of my post, which directly addresses your point? I am excited for Simon and Clark, however they were last year's class. Did forget Dixon, although not overly excited about him yet. Hope he surprises me.

As Paultzman noted, LoVett returning was huge. Highlight of the off-season so far.
 
Let's hope you're a better judge of intelligence than you are basketball talent.

Well look stupid. This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a rodent's and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work blue, because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do. Last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of pedagogy, which is the basis of the university system - they'll be better this year than they were last. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhausting. Not because you're negative, but because you're boring. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it.

I may be off on this given my inability to distill nuanced thought, but after reading yet another of your gratuitously verbose posts, I take it your point is that Owens and Yakwe together constitute an above average big man.

I'm not sure whether you envision Owens eating Yakwe, in which case I may have to agree with you. Short of that, however, the Yakwe/Owens two headed monster that I saw last year was consistently outrebounded, outmuscled, outscored, and outplayed.

Simply because Yakwe and Owens' combined numbers may compare favorably to those of the average front court player does not mean that Yakwe and Owens together are better than an average big man. Surely someone "who can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards" can comprehend that logic.

Now I like Owens and think he has some potential and the jury is out on Yakwe. But any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.
 
Let's hope you're a better judge of intelligence than you are basketball talent.

Well look stupid. This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a rodent's and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work blue, because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do. Last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of pedagogy, which is the basis of the university system - they'll be better this year than they were last. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhausting. Not because you're negative, but because you're boring. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it.

I may be off on this given my inability to distill nuanced thought, but after reading yet another of your gratuitously verbose posts, I take it your point is that Owens and Yakwe together constitute an above average big man.

I'm not sure whether you envision Owens eating Yakwe, in which case I may have to agree with you. Short of that, however, the Yakwe/Owens two headed monster that I saw last year was consistently outrebounded, outmuscled, outscored, and outplayed.

Simply because Yakwe and Owens' combined numbers may compare favorably to those of the average front court player does not mean that Yakwe and Owens together are better than an average big man. Surely someone "who can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards" can comprehend that logic.

Now I like Owens and think he has some potential and the jury is out on Yakwe. But any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.

While I do believe your assessment of Owens and Yawke I do not think the verbal in fighting
btw members is good . But do understand it goes on in sites like this. Hope fences can be mended in the end we are all brothers in this cause
 
Let's hope you're a better judge of intelligence than you are basketball talent.

Well look stupid. This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a rodent's and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work blue, because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do. Last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of pedagogy, which is the basis of the university system - they'll be better this year than they were last. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhausting. Not because you're negative, but because you're boring. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it.

I may be off on this given my inability to distill nuanced thought, but after reading yet another of your gratuitously verbose posts, I take it your point is that Owens and Yakwe together constitute an above average big man.

I'm not sure whether you envision Owens eating Yakwe, in which case I may have to agree with you. Short of that, however, the Yakwe/Owens two headed monster that I saw last year was consistently outrebounded, outmuscled, outscored, and outplayed.

Simply because Yakwe and Owens' combined numbers may compare favorably to those of the average front court player does not mean that Yakwe and Owens together are better than an average big man. Surely someone "who can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards" can comprehend that logic.

Now I like Owens and think he has some potential and the jury is out on Yakwe. But any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.
Not to mention that duo helped us to 14 wins last season. FU in advance to No Fun. (FU does not stand for Friendly Undertaking. It stands for Fordham University :unsure: ).
 
any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.

Fine stupid, and should any post that uses that phrase appear feel free to ridicule it. And should I say that our front court last year was "above average" feel free to ridicule me. But I never used that phrase and I never said anything like what you claim I said. What I said was

"Owens and Yakwe averaged between them 10 points, 9 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in 39 and a half minutes. That's an inside presence that's well above what any average five is going to give you."

See stupid? The phrase you put in quotes does not appear in my post. So you made it up. That's not nuance. That's you're either a liar or you can't read.

What I said was that Owens and Yakwe stats combined were "well above" those of one single "average five." Because "average five(s)" don't average a double double. See stupid? And that's not nuance either, that's seventh grade reading comprehension meets Logic 101. Which one did you fail?

 
I do not think the verbal in fighting btw members is good . But do understand it goes on in sites like this. Hope fences can be mended in the end we are all brothers in this cause

As it turns out I agree with you. (Except for that brothers part, I don't even like my own brothers and we shared a birth canal.) Which is why I have my own website, so as not to disrupt this one with my winning personality and various peccadilloes. But notice what happened here. I made a comment purely about basketball and some vicious bastard made a comment about my intelligence. Imagine how painful that was to a sensitive sort such as myself. I am the aggrieved party. I am the innocent lamb subjected to vicious slander and calumny. I ask you, how much can one man be expected to bear, even a Christ like figure such as myself who so often turns the other cheek and treats others as I would myself like to be treated. I am not currently wearing shoes but were I I'd challenge you to walk a mile in them. Because it would be difficult, trust me.
 
Dont worry grasso just got isiah still from robert morris avg 15 ppg and 6 RPG.. We have a new recruit named Stu gots 6'7" 235.
 
Dont worry grasso just got isiah still from robert morris avg 15 ppg and 6 RPG.. We have a new recruit named Stu gots 6'7" 235.

Stu Gots is a grad transfer from Whatsamata U. Rumors are he will play both Yakwe and Owens positions at the same time which will make him an average above average player except against those teams with a true center in which case Stu Gots will suck at playing the 5 as much as Yakwe and Owens who were regularly bitch slapped or otherwise abused while trying to defend any player taller than 6'7. Of course, like Yakwe and Owens, Stu Gots will pad his stats against 10 mediocre teams on the schedule and then become invisible against most Big East teams. The irony will be that both Yakwe and Owens will subsequently transfer after next season due to fewer minutes leaving Matt Abdelmassih to scramble to sign a yet to be announced grad transfer or two or three.
 
Dont worry grasso just got isiah still from robert morris avg 15 ppg and 6 RPG.. We have a new recruit named Stu gots 6'7" 235.

His name may as well be Mikey Dixon then, because he's sitting next year, right?
 
any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.

Fine stupid, and should any post that uses that phrase appear feel free to ridicule it. And should I say that our front court last year was "above average" feel free to ridicule me. But I never used that phrase and I never said anything like what you claim I said. What I said was

"Owens and Yakwe averaged between them 10 points, 9 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in 39 and a half minutes. That's an inside presence that's well above what any average five is going to give you."

See stupid? The phrase you put in quotes does not appear in my post. So you made it up. That's not nuance. That's you're either a liar or you can't read.

What I said was that Owens and Yakwe stats combined were "well above" those of one single "average five." Because "average five(s)" don't average a double double. See stupid? And that's not nuance either, that's seventh grade reading comprehension meets Logic 101. Which one did you fail?

Wow Fun, did I really get under your skin that much? You typically exert such effort to be witty, but this post seemed to be lacking that certain je ne sais quoi.

Surely you could do better than calling me a "stupid liar."

Speaking of intilect, you remind me of a frustrated English teacher who never had either the ability or the balls to publish anything.

As I previously explained to you, a basketball fan board is likely not the best place to engage in rigorous intilectual banter. Nonetheless, you constantly feel the need to try to impress us with your tedious posts and self-aggrandizing blog. News flash, they're not giving out Pulitzers for wittiest post on Redmen.com. But hey, if aspiring to be the Dostoyevsky of Redmen.com helps you ward off your inner deamons, more power to you.

In any event, we both appear to be diehard fans of the same program and there is no sense in continuing to bicker. Do your best or worst in response. I will not continue to engage.
 
I do not think the verbal in fighting btw members is good . But do understand it goes on in sites like this. Hope fences can be mended in the end we are all brothers in this cause

As it turns out I agree with you. (Except for that brothers part, I don't even like my own brothers and we shared a birth canal.) Which is why I have my own website, so as not to disrupt this one with my winning personality and various peccadilloes. But notice what happened here. I made a comment purely about basketball and some vicious bastard made a comment about my intelligence. Imagine how painful that was to a sensitive sort such as myself. I am the aggrieved party. I am the innocent lamb subjected to vicious slander and calumny. I ask you, how much can one man be expected to bear, even a Christ like figure such as myself who so often turns the other cheek and treats others as I would myself like to be treated. I am not currently wearing shoes but were I I'd challenge you to walk a mile in them. Because it would be difficult, trust me.

I have all to do the wear my own shoes. Just like to see us get along, Not putting blame on anyone individual To all out there have a difference of opinion state it ,intelligently and control name calling. Its hard enough seeing how we can not a a presence in the post from any place in the country
 
any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.

Fine stupid, and should any post that uses that phrase appear feel free to ridicule it. And should I say that our front court last year was "above average" feel free to ridicule me. But I never used that phrase and I never said anything like what you claim I said. What I said was

"Owens and Yakwe averaged between them 10 points, 9 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in 39 and a half minutes. That's an inside presence that's well above what any average five is going to give you."

See stupid? The phrase you put in quotes does not appear in my post. So you made it up. That's not nuance. That's you're either a liar or you can't read.

What I said was that Owens and Yakwe stats combined were "well above" those of one single "average five." Because "average five(s)" don't average a double double. See stupid? And that's not nuance either, that's seventh grade reading comprehension meets Logic 101. Which one did you fail?

Wow Fun, did I really get under your skin that much? You typically exert such effort to be witty, but this post seemed to be lacking that certain je ne sais quoi.

Surely you could do better than calling me a "stupid liar."

Speaking of intilect, you remind me of a frustrated English teacher who never had either the ability or the balls to publish anything.

As I previously explained to you, a basketball fan board is likely not the best place to engage in rigorous intilectual banter. Nonetheless, you constantly feel the need to try to impress us with your tedious posts and self-aggrandizing blog. News flash, they're not giving out Pulitzers for wittiest post on Redmen.com. But hey, if aspiring to be the Dostoyevsky of Redmen.com helps you ward off your inner deamons, more power to you.

In any event, we both appear to be diehard fans of the same program and there is no sense in continuing to bicker. Do your best or worst in response. I will not continue to engage.

I'm disappointed in you Boo! You came nowhere close to getting under Fun's skin. He was just toying with you.
I, on the other hand, seem to get under his skin easily for no apparent reasons.
My original non plagiarized opinion on the subject is as follows:

This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a Chihuahua at 20 yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a little dog and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work in green, white and red (the colors of Monte's favorite players' home flag), because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAFF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you or that Fck face Fun, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful. Of course that social intercourse would be less painful with a little dab of KY Jelly but I digress.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do but in reality last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. Come to think about it they ended the season providing less service than a 20 dollar 10th Ave hooker. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless because we didn't recruit ANY freshmen and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of the theory of hypothetical stupidity - they'll be better this year than they were last, which is not saying much since they singularly sucked and combined were awful last year. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain because the sky actually fell in a Pittsburg motel room when a St. John's team was sent there without its coach whose Vincention Christmas gift was a pink slip. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhilarating. Not because you're negative, but because you're your name Boo and you scare me like clowns do. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it like John Wayne Gacy Jr.

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any post that uses the phrase "above average" to describe our front court last year, no matter how "nuanced" the intent, invites ridicule.

Fine stupid, and should any post that uses that phrase appear feel free to ridicule it. And should I say that our front court last year was "above average" feel free to ridicule me. But I never used that phrase and I never said anything like what you claim I said. What I said was

"Owens and Yakwe averaged between them 10 points, 9 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in 39 and a half minutes. That's an inside presence that's well above what any average five is going to give you."

See stupid? The phrase you put in quotes does not appear in my post. So you made it up. That's not nuance. That's you're either a liar or you can't read.

What I said was that Owens and Yakwe stats combined were "well above" those of one single "average five." Because "average five(s)" don't average a double double. See stupid? And that's not nuance either, that's seventh grade reading comprehension meets Logic 101. Which one did you fail?

Wow Fun, did I really get under your skin that much? You typically exert such effort to be witty, but this post seemed to be lacking that certain je ne sais quoi.

Surely you could do better than calling me a "stupid liar."

Speaking of intilect, you remind me of a frustrated English teacher who never had either the ability or the balls to publish anything.

As I previously explained to you, a basketball fan board is likely not the best place to engage in rigorous intilectual banter. Nonetheless, you constantly feel the need to try to impress us with your tedious posts and self-aggrandizing blog. News flash, they're not giving out Pulitzers for wittiest post on Redmen.com. But hey, if aspiring to be the Dostoyevsky of Redmen.com helps you ward off your inner deamons, more power to you.

In any event, we both appear to be diehard fans of the same program and there is no sense in continuing to bicker. Do your best or worst in response. I will not continue to engage.

I'm disappointed in you Boo! You came nowhere close to getting under Fun's skin. He was just toying with you.
I, on the other hand, seem to get under his skin easily for no apparent reasons.
My original non plagiarized opinion on the subject is as follows:

This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a Chihuahua at 20 yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a little dog and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work in green, white and red (the colors of Monte's favorite players' home flag), because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAFF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you or that Fck face Fun, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful. Of course that social intercourse would be less painful with a little dab of KY Jelly but I digress.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do but in reality last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. Come to think about it they ended the season providing less service than a 20 dollar 10th Ave hooker. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless because we didn't recruit ANY freshmen and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of the theory of hypothetical stupidity - they'll be better this year than they were last, which is not saying much since they singularly sucked and combined were awful last year. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain because the sky actually fell in a Pittsburg motel room when a St. John's team was sent there without its coach whose Vincention Christmas gift was a pink slip. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhilarating. Not because you're negative, but because you're your name Boo and you scare me like clowns do. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it like John Wayne Gacy Jr.

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I am now dumber for having read this...

Are either of the transfers being discussed realistic possibilities?
 
seems like if i was a recruiter I would be combing every decent JUCO team and looking at their Centers and Power Forwards. Rebounds, points, fouls, height, weight. Then the phones calls..."Hey would you rather play for east cupcake community college or ST JOHNS UNIVERSITY next year. Seems too easy, what gives? I, like many on here think THE most frustrating situation is being in the same exact situation as last year this and we didn't act on it. Yes, recruits didn't choose us, move on.....We are St Johns....this has to be an option for some. We are thin already, and that doesn't include any unforeseen injuries, academic problems, or any other curve balls we are ALWAYS thrown. Now is the time boys, lock some guys up. We have ships to give-use them!!
 
Let's hope you're a better judge of intelligence than you are basketball talent.

Well look stupid. This isn't the forum to trade insults because I can't swear and although I can write the balls off a squirrel at thirty yards - and I presume yours are bigger than a rodent's and so would make an easier target - it's less pleasurable for me when I can't work blue, because I work in swearing like Modigliani worked in clay. And I can't be bothered dissuading you from your relentless negativity because I don't GAF if your hobbies make you miserable and in fact it makes me happy that they do, because other people's unhappiness brings me pleasure. And I also can't be bothered explaining nuanced thought to you, because I similarly don't care about your lack of rhetorical skills or inability to read for comprehension. So that leaves us just about nowhere and makes our social intercourse pointless and painful.

What I said about Owens and Yakwe is that together they comprise one serviceable big man. Which by the numbers they do. Last year they had to comprise two serviceable big men, which they did not. This year they're going to be better than any single freshman that might come in regardless and assuming that they improve - which is the basis of pedagogy, which is the basis of the university system - they'll be better this year than they were last. And this year they will have the luxury of being spelled by Marvin Clark, who is allegedly a player, or at least Tom Izzo thought so, but maybe he's not such a keen judge of talent either.

Everyone would like some help in the front court. That none is forthcoming is not ideal, but neither does it mean the sky falling, as all you chronic malcontents maintain. As I've said previously, I find your crybabying exhausting. Not because you're negative, but because you're boring. And there's no greater sin. Except maybe murder, depending on the circumstances, because some people deserve it.

Didn't know we were recruiting Schadenfreude.
 
To try to add some perspective to the apparent recruiting failure SJU fans are feeling, I took a minute to look at the available scholarship for 2017 at the other Big East institutions. The results are as follows:

School Scholarships Available for 2017
SJU 3
Butler 1
Creighton 3
DePaul 2
Georgetown 4 (Hoping for Kante)
Marquette 2
Providence 1
Seton Hall 1
Villanova 2
Xavier 1

I will also point out that most of the schools also had targets to fill those vacancies.

It seems to be standard practice to leave open at least one scholarship even at the risk of "burning" it. I suppose it would be given to a walk on, admittedly that is not much more than a guess.

3 open spots at this time, is a bit concerning, but it is not 4 Hoyas fans.
 
Getting impression that besides Beverly, trying to get involved with Rooks may be only other option at the moment. We will see.
 
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Didn't know we were recruiting Schadenfreude.

he is a German guy that may be related to a lot of posters here. :)
 
To try to add some perspective to the apparent recruiting failure SJU fans are feeling, I took a minute to look at the available scholarship for 2017 at the other Big East institutions. The results are as follows:

School Scholarships Available for 2017
SJU 3
Butler 1
Creighton 3
DePaul 2
Georgetown 4 (Hoping for Kante)
Marquette 2
Providence 1
Seton Hall 1
Villanova 2
Xavier 1

I will also point out that most of the schools also had targets to fill those vacancies.

It seems to be standard practice to leave open at least one scholarship even at the risk of "burning" it. I suppose it would be given to a walk on, admittedly that is not much more than a guess.

3 open spots at this time, is a bit concerning, but it is not 4 Hoyas fans.
Georgetown just went through a coaching change so they had some roster upheaval. When we changed coaches a few years ago we had 10 schollies to give.
 
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