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REB said:
This is the second reference I've seen to Zuby being similar to Ty Grant. I don't see it. Grant was a big body in the lane but probably only about 6'7" and certainly not chiseled and athletic like Zuby. I loved Grant as a player because he had this inexplicable ability to find a way to rebound and score the ball in the lane even without elite athleticism or size for his position. He just knew where to be and what to do with the ball when he got it in his hands. From what I've read of Tyrone's life after SJU It seems he's also a terrific person so that's nice too. Anyway if we're gonna find someone to compare to Zuby's game or physical attributes, for me we need to keep looking. I will also be very happy to watch Zuby and our entire roster of new faces play!
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Agree. I don't see any semblance of build, athleticism, and game that reminds of me Tyrone Grant. Zilch.
 
MJDinkins said:
Agree. I don't see any semblance of build, athleticism, and game that reminds of me Tyrone Grant. Zilch.
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Tyrone was one of my favorite players. He was a “lunch box” guy. Hard worker.He was not gifted athletically per se but worked his ass off. He was strong and finished around the rim. Tough kid. Never forget him. He battled against some guys who were bigger and more talented and held his own.

Zuby seems much more athletic. Obviously he was very highly rated since he went to Kansas. Way higher ceiling than Tyrone. RP has a lot to work with here.
 
REB said:
This is the second reference I've seen to Zuby being similar to Ty Grant. I don't see it. Grant was a big body in the lane but probably only about 6'7" and certainly not chiseled and athletic like Zuby. I loved Grant as a player because he had this inexplicable ability to find a way to rebound and score the ball in the lane even without elite athleticism or size for his position. He just knew where to be and what to do with the ball when he got it in his hands. From what I've read of Tyrone's life after SJU It seems he's also a terrific person so that's nice too. Anyway if we're gonna find someone to compare to Zuby's game or physical attributes, for me we need to keep looking. I will also be very happy to watch Zuby and our entire roster of new faces play!
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I don't know that their games compare, as I haven't seen a lot of video on Zuby, so my comment about his speed being similar was a step too far. However, Grant was 6'7 240 and Zuby is 6'9 240, so I am still seeing fairly similar physiques. Grant knew how to get the most out what had. My comments were that even if Zuby is a Grant type player, I would be extremely happy with this. Grant was a headsy, old school player who controlled with smarts and just good solid basics. I would take a two inch taller Grant is all I am saying. I feel like many people, every time we get a good recruit, are focused on there super star ability and I would just love to see this kid be as solid a contributor as Grant was.

This roster IMHO needed someone to help Soriano control the boards and I think Zuby could be that player. I'd be even happier if he was just as solid scorer within 10' with the acumen to kick it back out to our deep threats when he's double teamed.

So...if he is that much more athletic than TG, yeah, especially if he can't get the most out of what he has, like TG did.
 
Marillac2 said:
I doubt that very much 😂
Gardner is just not a fit for Pitino, but he was a highly ranked kid that was already signed and we had a lot of room on the roster…so there was no need to push him away either. Until his mother started to push their luck. Pitino had an awful experience with an over-involved parent his first year at Lousiville and I don’t think that is a mistake you have to make twice.

The Gardner unskilled combo forward archetype is likely a thing of the past for us with Pitino here. It’s just so much easier to beef up a legitimately skilled bigger wing like Luis if you want someone that can play as a stretch four.
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Gardner and his family moved to Queens because the prior SJ staff thought they had an agreement. The new coach did his due diligence and met and reassued the family that his NIL would be honored. Within 24 hours they tried to renegotiate their deal.
THEY walked away just as Posh and Storr did because there were no playing time guarantees. That was when Pitino still had half a roster to fill.

It was obviously a smart move. He would not played ahead of players like Zuby, Luis and Taylor. Add better shooting bigs like Dunlap and Slazinski and he would have been relegated next to Drissa Traore who is the same physically but has college experience behind him.

Has any power 5 made Gardner a priority? I doubt it.
 
L J S A said:
UNC is known as a pretty good school too. And at the very least, UNC presumably shored up their cheating since then.
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Yes it’s known as a very good school. Of course, they clearly got caught. No show credit is as bad as it gets. That’s pretty lazy cheating. Who knows if that has been shored up. They were never punished. They weren’t punished because, wait for it…no show classes broke no rules. Gotta love the N.C.A.A.

You can read it here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/sports/unc-north-carolina-ncaa.html

We laughed about this little scandal when it happened. If this were SJU lets say I am or was not confident of a similar shall we say outcome.
 
NCJohnnie said:
Good for him! Have a couple of family members who went to Fairfield and loved it there.
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Hope he goes there. I haven't taken a deep look at college rankings lately, but I'll assume it's still a good school.

He definitely needs to be at a level where height alone will let him make an impact until the rest of his skills catch up, and this seems like a good spot to me.
 
L J S A said:
UNC is known as a pretty good school too. And at the very least, UNC presumably shored up their cheating since then.
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How does Michigan allow it to get that far to begin with? I mean he has been committed for more than a month and you have presumably had his transcripts for that long how in the world do you NOW decide you are not going to admit him?
 
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