Transfer Portal Mania

monte said:
This not capitalism at work, this is insanity. In what other industry are there hundreds and hundreds of companies vying for the same employees once a year? Eventually they will shoot the goose that laid the golden egg. Nah, they probably won't since they'll still be enough fans convincing themselves that these are college kids playing for the love of the game and their school. Ya know, the same mindset that exits with people who still think pro wrestling is real.
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MLB, NFL, NBA, MLS, etc. Those are the most comparable industries. Each year, every other industry is competing for the top college graduates in their fields. Obviously, not at the same pay scale. I wish. What other billion-dollar industry has been allowed to benefit from free labor for all these years? Please don't say that the players got scholarships. Think about the $ these athletes made for other people. That said, I am torn. I believe in the free market: I hate what it will do the college sports. But these kids have a small window to make $. Most will never make much playing pro ball.
 
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weathermannyc said:
This has been going on for years. It was just under the table before NIL. The thing that changed everything was the unlimited free transfers. That took the power in negotiations from the coaches and shifted it to the players. Most issues would be solved with one change that Moose suggested years ago. One free transfer. After that, any transfer needs to sit a year unless they graduate or the coach leaves/is fired.
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The solution is so simple but it’s the ncaa 🙄
 
Treat the sport for what it is - a professional league or for that matter multiple professional leagues...

You can't generate billions of dollars and continue hiding under the cloak of 'amateur college athletics' pay coaches tens of millions, build facilities that cost hundreds of millions, merchandising, licensing, media, etc. etc. The benefits to these universities go beyond direct revenue generated by the actual sport, it is an invaluable marketing tool... The NCAA are a greedy bunch of bureaucratic pigs, who are now finally getting called out for their one sided business model...

Players should get paid just like faculty and teachers do, they are there for one thing only... to drive revenues... if they didn't drive revenues, they would have to pay the school money like every other student does.

In short build a BUSINESS model that accounts for services provided, it really is not that hard, unless you are bunch of greedy bureaucratic pigs!
 
If you include Room & Board, the St. John's University Undergrad Tuition is currently about $60,000. Some may argue well players do not stay 4 years. If they received the full benefit of it, however, it would be roughly $240,000 worth. I also add- they get first choice of classes and tutors. They get to be showcased for their talents in the mainstream with a push to play professional one day whether NBA or overseas and could get degrees to position them for a good job one day once sports runs its course.

This business of paying $300, $400 and $500 thousand to a million depending on the school/NIL program is insane. I can get behind collecting a small percentage at autograph signings or occasional team wide-promotional with a stipend but this NIL thing is one big move for greed. Unfortunately, alot of dirty hands here in "corporatizing" the student-athletes whether it be these ridiculous TV contracts and networks and Big Money in sports at the college level from the early AAU circuit racket with sneakers, agents and false promises to take advantage of amateurs as well as other things.

To be able to stay competitive we need to keep playing this game with the NIL but it is a shame that it is the mainstream at this point and there is no way out of it. The transfer dramas will continue as we have these little Lebron style "decisions" on a large scale with the highest bidder for amateurs. Pathetic.
 
FriendofJohnnie said:
If you include Room & Board, the St. John's University Undergrad Tuition is currently about $60,000. Some may argue well players do not stay 4 years. If they received the full benefit of it, however, it would be roughly $240,000 worth. I also add- they get first choice of classes and tutors. They get to be showcased for their talents in the mainstream with a push to play professional one day whether NBA or overseas and could get degrees to position them for a good job one day once sports runs its course.

This business of paying $300, $400 and $500 thousand to a million depending on the school/NIL program is insane. I can get behind collecting a small percentage at autograph signings or occasional team wide-promotional with a stipend but this NIL thing is one big move for greed. Unfortunately, alot of dirty hands here in "corporatizing" the student-athletes whether it be these ridiculous TV contracts and networks and Big Money in sports at the college level from the early AAU circuit racket with sneakers, agents and false promises to take advantage of amateurs as well as other things.

To be able to stay competitive we need to keep playing this game with the NIL but it is a shame that it is the mainstream at this point and there is no way out of it. The transfer dramas will continue as we have these little Lebron style "decisions" on a large scale with the highest bidder for amateurs. Pathetic.
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The student thing is so disingenuous in reality. They can't choose most classes because of practice and game schedules. It's also a lot more difficult for them to do an internships over the summer (let alone fall/spring) because of basketball. They also can't participate in 99% of extracurricular activities like a normal student would.
 
Think Hopkins is negotiating what Providence paid him last year on top of this year's salary, because if I were them I'd sue him. 😁

Sadly, I'm only half-kidding. I think kids who get paid while injured and then split may find themselves staring at efforts to recover lost funds.
 
KG44 said:
MLB, NFL, NBA, MLS, etc. Those are the most comparable industries. Each year, every other industry is competing for the top college graduates in their fields. Obviously, not at the same pay scale. I wish. What other billion-dollar industry has been allowed to benefit from free labor for all these years? Please don't say that the players got scholarships. Think about the $ these athletes made for other people. That said, I am torn. I believe in the free market: I hate what it will do the college sports. But these kids have a small window to make $. Most will never make much playing pro ball.
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KG44 said:
In the other pro sports there's a small % of players who are free agents in any given year, not the entire field of players. With college grads, firms have pay scales. With all due respect, those examples that you used aren't even close to what's going on in college basketball right now.
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KG44 said:
No one is saying these kids shouldn't make money, and whats going on now may be good for the floors but it's terrible for the sport. And if its bad for the sport, eventually the players will suffer
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Not sure why this post is formatted this way, but the last 2 comments are mine not KG's
 
Cian Medley, point guard from Camden's state championship team, just entered portal from St. Louis.
 
FriendofJohnnie said:
If you include Room & Board, the St. John's University Undergrad Tuition is currently about $60,000. Some may argue well players do not stay 4 years. If they received the full benefit of it, however, it would be roughly $240,000 worth. I also add- they get first choice of classes and tutors. They get to be showcased for their talents in the mainstream with a push to play professional one day whether NBA or overseas and could get degrees to position them for a good job one day once sports runs its course.

This business of paying $300, $400 and $500 thousand to a million depending on the school/NIL program is insane. I can get behind collecting a small percentage at autograph signings or occasional team wide-promotional with a stipend but this NIL thing is one big move for greed. Unfortunately, alot of dirty hands here in "corporatizing" the student-athletes whether it be these ridiculous TV contracts and networks and Big Money in sports at the college level from the early AAU circuit racket with sneakers, agents and false promises to take advantage of amateurs as well as other things.

To be able to stay competitive we need to keep playing this game with the NIL but it is a shame that it is the mainstream at this point and there is no way out of it. The transfer dramas will continue as we have these little Lebron style "decisions" on a large scale with the highest bidder for amateurs. Pathetic.
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Why is it insane? Is it insane that the University makes multi millions off the product? Is it insane that RP is making $6+M a year? Is it insane that the University is spending $100M to build a state of the art practice facility? Is it insane that fans are paying top dollar for tickets? Not sure where the 'insane' logic breaks when it comes to compensating players???

It should come directly from the University and not some cockamamie NIL program, that's the insane part!
 
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