The Knee

Getting back to the original poster’s question: How do you react if one of our SJU players takes the knee?

For me, the question is: Should young, broke Shamorie Ponds be held to a different standard than an NFL or NBA player? As far as I am concerned, the answer is yes. I won’t be happy about it --and I am 100% opposed to the NFL players’ protest— but I think the the college kids need to be cut some slack. I don’t think it will be pretty at MSG if it happens, though.
 
Is there a more racist NFL game scheduled than next Monday night's game between the Chiefs and the Redskins? :unsure: :dry:
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

1) - Some common themes I’ve seen on this site is “ why protest the flag, it’s disrespectful to our military”.

Answer: The military has nothing to do with the protest at all. In fact I’m still confused how that flag became associated with the military in the first place. The reason why a lot of black football players and people ( again just my views) are protesting the flag is because it’s tough to stand for a flag when you don’t feel like you’re being treated as fairly as your Caucasian counterpart. I’ve been told growing up that everybody is treated equal in America regardless of race etc. However, with the unequal treatment of us guys in the Justice system ( always giving police the benefit of the doubt, harsher sentences for the same crimes, etc) a lot of black people started believing that this isn’t the case. So it begs the question why stand for something that’s not giving you its original promise?

2) Second theme I’ve seen on this site has been isn’t there another way to protest?

Answer : Okay, tell us which way works. Last time I checked, every form of protest we’ve tried we get backlash for it.

- We economically boycott or shop at only black shops ( Think MLK)
* You guys are racist :angry:

-We shoot back violently ( Christopher Droner, Micah Johnson)
* You guys are violent ( insert negative references) :angry:

- We peacefully protest ( Kaepernick, BLM in Missouri)
* You guys are ungrateful :angry:

- We protest in college ( 1950 Missouri group, Berkeley)
* You guys are spoiled :angry:

See a theme here? Backlash for everything. Also, protest aren’t meant to be comfortable BTW.


4) What is the protest for?

That’s easy. Quote by Colin Kaepernick: “I feel like there’s racial inequality in this country, and police brutality is a serious issue”.

5) These athletes should be grateful because of the money they make.

Answer: The money is great, Kudos to them for making it. HOWEVER these are still BLACK men. At the end of the day, money can’t shield you from being treated more harshly than the average white American. They’re plenty of highly educated, wealthy black men who have admitted to being treated harshly just for being black.

The following men have admitted to being racially profiled regardless of status :

- Barack Obama ( Democratic president)

- Tim Scott ( Tea party senator from South Carolina

- Michael Steele ( former Republican leader out of Maryland)

- James Blake ( Tennis star)

-Dr.Dre ( producer out of California).

-Otis Graham ( dual Ivy League educated conservative graduate, and co-creator of the book “our kind of people”)

* As you can see, these guys and players are wealthy, educated etc, and they’ve all still admitted that they were treated unfairly. So, no, money can’t protect you as much as we like to believe.

I am a caucasian male who believes there is extreme racial inequality in our country. I find it to be a major problem and we would likely agree on many issues.

That said, I resent being told how I should feel about this protest. In fact, I find it distasteful and offensive. It completely distracts me from the issue it is meant to serve.

People are free to protest and I am free to interpret their protest as I feel.
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

1) - Some common themes I’ve seen on this site is “ why protest the flag, it’s disrespectful to our military”.

Answer: The military has nothing to do with the protest at all. In fact I’m still confused how that flag became associated with the military in the first place. The reason why a lot of black football players and people ( again just my views) are protesting the flag is because it’s tough to stand for a flag when you don’t feel like you’re being treated as fairly as your Caucasian counterpart. I’ve been told growing up that everybody is treated equal in America regardless of race etc. However, with the unequal treatment of us guys in the Justice system ( always giving police the benefit of the doubt, harsher sentences for the same crimes, etc) a lot of black people started believing that this isn’t the case. So it begs the question why stand for something that’s not giving you its original promise?

2) Second theme I’ve seen on this site has been isn’t there another way to protest?

Answer : Okay, tell us which way works. Last time I checked, every form of protest we’ve tried we get backlash for it.

- We economically boycott or shop at only black shops ( Think MLK)
* You guys are racist :angry:

-We shoot back violently ( Christopher Droner, Micah Johnson)
* You guys are violent ( insert negative references) :angry:

- We peacefully protest ( Kaepernick, BLM in Missouri)
* You guys are ungrateful :angry:

- We protest in college ( 1950 Missouri group, Berkeley)
* You guys are spoiled :angry:

See a theme here? Backlash for everything. Also, protest aren’t meant to be comfortable BTW.


4) What is the protest for?

That’s easy. Quote by Colin Kaepernick: “I feel like there’s racial inequality in this country, and police brutality is a serious issue”.

5) These athletes should be grateful because of the money they make.

Answer: The money is great, Kudos to them for making it. HOWEVER these are still BLACK men. At the end of the day, money can’t shield you from being treated more harshly than the average white American. They’re plenty of highly educated, wealthy black men who have admitted to being treated harshly just for being black.

The following men have admitted to being racially profiled regardless of status :

- Barack Obama ( Democratic president)

- Tim Scott ( Tea party senator from South Carolina

- Michael Steele ( former Republican leader out of Maryland)

- James Blake ( Tennis star)

-Dr.Dre ( producer out of California).

-Otis Graham ( dual Ivy League educated conservative graduate, and co-creator of the book “our kind of people”)

* As you can see, these guys and players are wealthy, educated etc, and they’ve all still admitted that they were treated unfairly. So, no, money can’t protect you as much as we like to believe.

But why is their 2 different standards for whites and black?

I remember Obama going to that mass for the 5 cops who were slaughtered then 2 days later inviting the founders of black lives matter (why is it black lives matter instead of all lives matter? What white, Hispanic, and Asian lives don't matter, only black lives?) was invited to the white house (one of the founders organized the protest in minnesota where one one protester dropped a block of concrete from a over over hitting a cop and snapping his back, and is now in a wheel chair for the rest of his life.).
Well if Trump after what happened in Charlottesville invited white supremacist, there would be a huge up roar.

But yeah, two different standards.
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

1) - Some common themes I’ve seen on this site is “ why protest the flag, it’s disrespectful to our military”.

Answer: The military has nothing to do with the protest at all. In fact I’m still confused how that flag became associated with the military in the first place. The reason why a lot of black football players and people ( again just my views) are protesting the flag is because it’s tough to stand for a flag when you don’t feel like you’re being treated as fairly as your Caucasian counterpart. I’ve been told growing up that everybody is treated equal in America regardless of race etc. However, with the unequal treatment of us guys in the Justice system ( always giving police the benefit of the doubt, harsher sentences for the same crimes, etc) a lot of black people started believing that this isn’t the case. So it begs the question why stand for something that’s not giving you its original promise?

2) Second theme I’ve seen on this site has been isn’t there another way to protest?

Answer : Okay, tell us which way works. Last time I checked, every form of protest we’ve tried we get backlash for it.

- We economically boycott or shop at only black shops ( Think MLK)
* You guys are racist :angry:

-We shoot back violently ( Christopher Droner, Micah Johnson)
* You guys are violent ( insert negative references) :angry:

- We peacefully protest ( Kaepernick, BLM in Missouri)
* You guys are ungrateful :angry:

- We protest in college ( 1950 Missouri group, Berkeley)
* You guys are spoiled :angry:

See a theme here? Backlash for everything. Also, protest aren’t meant to be comfortable BTW.


4) What is the protest for?

That’s easy. Quote by Colin Kaepernick: “I feel like there’s racial inequality in this country, and police brutality is a serious issue”.

5) These athletes should be grateful because of the money they make.

Answer: The money is great, Kudos to them for making it. HOWEVER these are still BLACK men. At the end of the day, money can’t shield you from being treated more harshly than the average white American. They’re plenty of highly educated, wealthy black men who have admitted to being treated harshly just for being black.

The following men have admitted to being racially profiled regardless of status :

- Barack Obama ( Democratic president)

- Tim Scott ( Tea party senator from South Carolina

- Michael Steele ( former Republican leader out of Maryland)

- James Blake ( Tennis star)

-Dr.Dre ( producer out of California).

-Otis Graham ( dual Ivy League educated conservative graduate, and co-creator of the book “our kind of people”)

* As you can see, these guys and players are wealthy, educated etc, and they’ve all still admitted that they were treated unfairly. So, no, money can’t protect you as much as we like to believe.

You're an exceptionally intelligent guy 13, but here's a tip from an old white guy who's been around the block and back(FWIW), you'll never get your message across by starting out with something like: . "...considering the age and racial demographics of the site..."
 
Most of these guys will hop in their Bentleys tonight and drop 20K popping bottles at the strip club. You know, "making a difference". It's a hypocritical fake stance on nothing that will cause change on any level.

Wanting disproportionate excessive police force to stop and wanting a big pair of titties in your face are mutually exclusive?
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

1) - Some common themes I’ve seen on this site is “ why protest the flag, it’s disrespectful to our military”.

Answer: The military has nothing to do with the protest at all. In fact I’m still confused how that flag became associated with the military in the first place. The reason why a lot of black football players and people ( again just my views) are protesting the flag is because it’s tough to stand for a flag when you don’t feel like you’re being treated as fairly as your Caucasian counterpart. I’ve been told growing up that everybody is treated equal in America regardless of race etc. However, with the unequal treatment of us guys in the Justice system ( always giving police the benefit of the doubt, harsher sentences for the same crimes, etc) a lot of black people started believing that this isn’t the case. So it begs the question why stand for something that’s not giving you its original promise?

2) Second theme I’ve seen on this site has been isn’t there another way to protest?

Answer : Okay, tell us which way works. Last time I checked, every form of protest we’ve tried we get backlash for it.

- We economically boycott or shop at only black shops ( Think MLK)
* You guys are racist :angry:

-We shoot back violently ( Christopher Droner, Micah Johnson)
* You guys are violent ( insert negative references) :angry:

- We peacefully protest ( Kaepernick, BLM in Missouri)
* You guys are ungrateful :angry:

- We protest in college ( 1950 Missouri group, Berkeley)
* You guys are spoiled :angry:

See a theme here? Backlash for everything. Also, protest aren’t meant to be comfortable BTW.


4) What is the protest for?

That’s easy. Quote by Colin Kaepernick: “I feel like there’s racial inequality in this country, and police brutality is a serious issue”.

5) These athletes should be grateful because of the money they make.

Answer: The money is great, Kudos to them for making it. HOWEVER these are still BLACK men. At the end of the day, money can’t shield you from being treated more harshly than the average white American. They’re plenty of highly educated, wealthy black men who have admitted to being treated harshly just for being black.

The following men have admitted to being racially profiled regardless of status :

- Barack Obama ( Democratic president)

- Tim Scott ( Tea party senator from South Carolina

- Michael Steele ( former Republican leader out of Maryland)

- James Blake ( Tennis star)

-Dr.Dre ( producer out of California).

-Otis Graham ( dual Ivy League educated conservative graduate, and co-creator of the book “our kind of people”)

* As you can see, these guys and players are wealthy, educated etc, and they’ve all still admitted that they were treated unfairly. So, no, money can’t protect you as much as we like to believe.

But why is their 2 different standards for whites and black?

I remember Obama going to that mass for the 5 cops who were slaughtered then 2 days later inviting the founders of black lives matter (why is it black lives matter instead of all lives matter? What white, Hispanic, and Asian lives don't matter, only black lives?) was invited to the white house (one of the founders organized the protest in minnesota where one one protester dropped a block of concrete from a over over hitting a cop and snapping his back, and is now in a wheel chair for the rest of his life.).
Well if Trump after what happened in Charlottesville invited white supremacist, there would be a huge up roar.

But yeah, two different standards.

Yes, all lives matter but "Black Lives Matters" started specifically due to unarmed blacks being killed to bring attention to the injustice. If that message has morphed into something else, that is a different story.

And yes there are two different standards and as I eluded to in an earlier post 9 pages or so ago, the fact that this is still an issue in this day an age is truly sad.
 
sju grad 13- Among so many other things,The anthem is usually preceded by a march of a military honor quard.. My blood boils when any American disrespects the flag which represents your right to protest and still be alive.
 
In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

I've taken the liberty of hosing the majority of your post. Not because it comprised a list of facts that every school child knows but only a member of the stupidest generation would find profound, but for clarity.

Since you brought it up, we'll begin with demographics. I'm old. Not so old that my dick doesn't work or that I can't still do a good day's work in the back 40 but old enough where I'm beginning to can feel the gravitational pull of the grave. It doesn't worry me particularly - I came to grips with my own death when I was 11 or so - but I do worry about the loss of dignity and autonomy that end of life brings and hope I have the balls to hang myself when the time comes. But I'll stipulate to no longer being a young man. Also I'm white (mongrelized but still) and having been born so in the 20th century in NY state am happy for it. I would have been less happy had I been born a white indentured servant in Virginia in the 17th century and less happy still had I been born a white serf in Russia in the 15th or a white slave in Egypt in the 5th BC. But Lady Fortuna has smiled upon me and I am not so blind that I'm oblivious to my good fortune.

You on the other hand are young and black. I know this because you can barely go a single post without mentioning it. I take from it that you think your youth a badge of intelligence, fresh as you are from college, where you no doubt read several books. From your blackness I am not sure what to take. You seem on the one hand to think that it allows you special insight into the mysteries of life - I don't, I think the opposite, that those who see everything through the prism of race make the mistake of thinking everyone is as myopic as are they. But more profound is the other hand: you seem to find that blackness qua blackness aggrieving. That is I think sad and a shame. It is true that you might have been fortunately born a black king in Africa 600 years ago, where you could have traded your black slaves to Portuguese racketeers for rum and beads for transport to Brazil and Cuba where they would die in sugar fields - as was the fate of most African slaves, sold by their black owners to Hispanic traders for labor on Latin American plantations. But otoh you might have been born a slave in Africa or the New World or into Jim Crow, where the physical lineaments of institutional racism where transparent, as was my boon companion Panther, whose contempt for whites is at least understandable.

So that's out of the way. I'm white and old and that makes me a narrow-minded unintelligent bigot and you're young and black and that makes you a victim, despite the virtue and insight that your pigment bestows upon you. Which meandering leads me to my point, which [strike]should [/strike] shall take the form of two questions, like on Jeopardy, hosted by Alex Trebek who, evidently, had he tried just a bit harder might have been named head of the Luftwaffe, because if you can't see the difference between a game show host and Hitler, you're blind.

Question. What do you think would aid the black community more over the course of a single generation. The elimination of racial profiling and police shootings of unarmed African Americans, or if black children pulled up their pants, did their homework, stopped having babies out of wedlock, and stopped shooting each other? (I might have been trepidatious about asking that so bluntly had we not already established by age and demographics that I'm a racist.)

Question: how do a group of half-educated millionaires kneeling down in a sports arena address any of the issues raised in question one - on either side of the hypothetical - and if it does not, what is the point of it. Progressives - like say you and Theo, who sneer at old white men like myself - are already woke, and old white racists are not only too old to learn new tricks but presumably don't care to. So what is the point? All I can figure is that you are celebrating your own victimization whist simultaneously bullying your oppressors. Who it seems to me, if they were really skilled at oppressing, would not deign to be so bullied.

Discuss.
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

I've taken the liberty of hosing the majority of your post. Not because it comprised a list of facts that every school child knows but only a member of the stupidest generation would find profound, but for clarity.

Since you brought it up, we'll begin with demographics. I'm old. Not so old that my dick doesn't work or that I can't still do a good day's work in the back 40 but old enough where I'm beginning to can feel the gravitational pull of the grave. It doesn't worry me particularly - I came to grips with my own death when I was 11 or so - but I do worry about the loss of dignity and autonomy that end of life brings and hope I have the balls to hang myself when the time comes. But I'll stipulate to no longer being a young man. Also I'm white (mongrelized but still) and having been born so in the 20th century in NY state am happy for it. I would have been less happy had I been born a white indentured servant in Virginia in the 17th century and less happy still had I been born a white serf in Russia in the 15th or a white slave in Egypt in the 5th BC. But Lady Fortuna has smiled upon me and I am not so blind that I'm oblivious to my good fortune.

You on the other hand are young and black. I know this because you can barely go a single post without mentioning it. I take from it that you think your youth a badge of intelligence, fresh as you are from college, where you no doubt read several books. From your blackness I am not sure what to take. You seem on the one hand to think that it allows you special insight into the mysteries of life - I don't, I think the opposite, that those who see everything through the prism of race make the mistake of thinking everyone is as myopic as are they. But more profound is the other hand: you seem to find that blackness qua blackness aggrieving. That is I think sad and a shame. It is true that you might have been fortunately born a black king in Africa 600 years ago, where you could have traded your black slaves to Portuguese racketeers for rum and beads for transport to Brazil and Cuba where they would die in sugar fields - as was the fate of most African slaves, sold by their black owners to Hispanic traders for labor on Latin American plantations. But otoh you might have been born a slave in Africa or the New World or into Jim Crow, where the physical lineaments of institutional racism where transparent, as was my boon companion Panther, whose contempt for whites is at least understandable.

So that's out of the way. I'm white and old and that makes me a narrow-minded unintelligent bigot and you're young and black and that makes you a victim, despite the virtue and insight that your pigment bestows upon you. Which meandering leads me to my point, which [strike]should [/strike] shall take the form of two questions, like on Jeopardy, hosted by Alex Trebek who, evidently, had he tried just a bit harder might have been named head of the Luftwaffe, because if you can't see the difference between a game show host and Hitler, you're blind.

Question. What do you think would aid the black community more over the course of a single generation. The elimination of racial profiling and police shootings of unarmed African Americans, or if black children pulled up their pants, did their homework, stopped having babies out of wedlock, and stopped shooting each other? (I might have been trepidatious about asking that so bluntly had we not already established by age and demographics that I'm a racist.)

Question: how do a group of half-educated millionaires kneeling down in a sports arena address any of the issues raised in question one - on either side of the hypothetical - and if it does not, what is the point of it. Progressives - like say you and Theo, who sneer at old white men like myself - are already woke, and old white racists are not only too old to learn new tricks but presumably don't care to. So what is the point? All I can figure is that you are celebrating your own victimization whist simultaneously bullying your oppressors. Who it seems to me, if they were really skilled at oppressing, would not deign to be so bullied.

Discuss.

Since you brought it up, we'll begin with demographics. I'm old. Not so old that my dick doesn't work or that I can't still do a good day's work in the back 40 but old enough where I'm beginning to can feel the gravitational pull of the grave.

Just curious - why did you use the term back 40 here and not just the backyard?
 
Sigh!! They’re so many things wrong with this thread that it was tough and slightly emotional to read. But considering the age and racial demographics of the site I’m not really surprised. I’ll just try to offer my persepective as a young (28) African American male, if it helps.

Side note: If they’re any other black posters on this site, I apologize if it seemed like I skipped over your post or come off as a bad representation in your eyes ( you can always DM me).

Here we go!

I've taken the liberty of hosing the majority of your post. Not because it comprised a list of facts that every school child knows but only a member of the stupidest generation would find profound, but for clarity.

Since you brought it up, we'll begin with demographics. I'm old. Not so old that my dick doesn't work or that I can't still do a good day's work in the back 40 but old enough where I'm beginning to can feel the gravitational pull of the grave. It doesn't worry me particularly - I came to grips with my own death when I was 11 or so - but I do worry about the loss of dignity and autonomy that end of life brings and hope I have the balls to hang myself when the time comes. But I'll stipulate to no longer being a young man. Also I'm white (mongrelized but still) and having been born so in the 20th century in NY state am happy for it. I would have been less happy had I been born a white indentured servant in Virginia in the 17th century and less happy still had I been born a white serf in Russia in the 15th or a white slave in Egypt in the 5th BC. But Lady Fortuna has smiled upon me and I am not so blind that I'm oblivious to my good fortune.

You on the other hand are young and black. I know this because you can barely go a single post without mentioning it. I take from it that you think your youth a badge of intelligence, fresh as you are from college, where you no doubt read several books. From your blackness I am not sure what to take. You seem on the one hand to think that it allows you special insight into the mysteries of life - I don't, I think the opposite, that those who see everything through the prism of race make the mistake of thinking everyone is as myopic as are they. But more profound is the other hand: you seem to find that blackness qua blackness aggrieving. That is I think sad and a shame. It is true that you might have been fortunately born a black king in Africa 600 years ago, where you could have traded your black slaves to Portuguese racketeers for rum and beads for transport to Brazil and Cuba where they would die in sugar fields - as was the fate of most African slaves, sold by their black owners to Hispanic traders for labor on Latin American plantations. But otoh you might have been born a slave in Africa or the New World or into Jim Crow, where the physical lineaments of institutional racism where transparent, as was my boon companion Panther, whose contempt for whites is at least understandable.

So that's out of the way. I'm white and old and that makes me a narrow-minded unintelligent bigot and you're young and black and that makes you a victim, despite the virtue and insight that your pigment bestows upon you. Which meandering leads me to my point, which [strike]should [/strike] shall take the form of two questions, like on Jeopardy, hosted by Alex Trebek who, evidently, had he tried just a bit harder might have been named head of the Luftwaffe, because if you can't see the difference between a game show host and Hitler, you're blind.

Question. What do you think would aid the black community more over the course of a single generation. The elimination of racial profiling and police shootings of unarmed African Americans, or if black children pulled up their pants, did their homework, stopped having babies out of wedlock, and stopped shooting each other? (I might have been trepidatious about asking that so bluntly had we not already established by age and demographics that I'm a racist.)

Question: how do a group of half-educated millionaires kneeling down in a sports arena address any of the issues raised in question one - on either side of the hypothetical - and if it does not, what is the point of it. Progressives - like say you and Theo, who sneer at old white men like myself - are already woke, and old white racists are not only too old to learn new tricks but presumably don't care to. So what is the point? All I can figure is that you are celebrating your own victimization whist simultaneously bullying your oppressors. Who it seems to me, if they were really skilled at oppressing, would not deign to be so bullied.

Discuss.

Since you brought it up, we'll begin with demographics. I'm old. Not so old that my dick doesn't work or that I can't still do a good day's work in the back 40 but old enough where I'm beginning to can feel the gravitational pull of the grave.

Just curious - why did you use the term back 40 here and not just the backyard?
Mmmmm, Eva Gabor!
 
To chop firewood in Turkey is to not pick olives in Spain. Every drop of energy spent on "The knee" is energy not spent on 25 years of money laundering for Putin kleptocrat buddies and serving a master other than the US Constitution and the American electorate. Had lunch with a retired law enforcement friend yesterday and his comment was that Manafort may be indictable for treason, and that towel wrung dry will start to clean a lot of the dirt from people's vision about what is really happening.
 
To chop firewood in Turkey is to not pick olives in Spain. Every drop of energy spent on "The knee" is energy not spent on 25 years of money laundering for Putin kleptocrat buddies and serving a master other than the US Constitution and the American electorate. Had lunch with a retired law enforcement friend yesterday and his comment was that Manafort may be indictable for treason, and that towel wrung dry will start to clean a lot of the dirt from people's vision about what is really happening.
I've seen an exorbitant amount of malfeasance the last few years. I have seen no action to address it. I will believe it when I see it.
 
To chop firewood in Turkey is to not pick olives in Spain. Every drop of energy spent on "The knee" is energy not spent on 25 years of money laundering for Putin kleptocrat buddies and serving a master other than the US Constitution and the American electorate. Had lunch with a retired law enforcement friend yesterday and his comment was that Manafort may be indictable for treason, and that towel wrung dry will start to clean a lot of the dirt from people's vision about what is really happening.
I've seen an exorbitant amount of malfeasance the last few years. I have seen no action to address it. I will believe it when I see it.

Also expects non-federal NY prosecution beyond reach of federal pardon. Said that precedent would have major effect re: Trump's efforts to pardon himself and family as much of the prosecutable activity occurred in New York State.
 
Just curious - why did you use the term back 40 here and not just the backyard?

Because that's what gentleman farmers such as myself call the distant fields. Womenfolk tend the backyard.
 
Had lunch with a retired law enforcement friend yesterday and his comment was that Manafort may be indictable for treason

Your law enforcement friend might want to read the article III section 3 of the US Constitution. Because he doesn't know what he's talking about. The US is not at war, therefore the US has no enemies, therefore Manafort could not have levied war against it or adhered to its enemies. Therefore he did not commit treason. You're welcome for the civics lesson.
 
In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

The Washington Post will ultimately reach the conclusion that more whites need to be killed to coincide with the demographics. They will also conclude that more Asians are shot in Asian neighborhoods than whites, more Hispanics are shot in Hispanic neighborhoods than white and that Orthodox Jews are segregationists.
 
The "funny" thing is 180 people chose to "protest" the anthem / flag because the President called the 4 or 5 guys who had been doing it "Son's of Bitches".
Personally I would prefer everyone to stand for the anthem. However I do respect the right for people to peaceably protest, even if I do not agree with said protest. That is one of the many reasons this is the greatest country in the world!
But again protesting the anthem / flag because one guy insulted 4 or 5 other guys seems like a silly protest to me. Because honestly that is what this has been all about. Just my opinion
 
Bend over and grab your ankles, Uncle Adolf......I mean the Donald is coming.
 
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