There were posters crying about posh all season . Now is there chance to cry a little less regardless he isn't coming backSeriously, keep this crap out of this thread. We have no interest in a dime a dozen pg who cant shoot.
There were posters crying about posh all season . Now is there chance to cry a little less regardless he isn't coming backSeriously, keep this crap out of this thread. We have no interest in a dime a dozen pg who cant shoot.
NoThere were posters crying about posh all season . Now is there chance to cry a little less regardless he isn't coming back
Completely premature to make any kind of judgment on Scheier's ability as head coach to develop guys for NBA, positive or negative. He has only coached 2 years. He does have a .750 winning percentage and is 4-2 in the dance but given where he is coaching, hard to base too much on that. He certainly hasn't been anything close to a flop though.This is crazy talk. Scheyer had 2 draft picks last year, his first year as head coach. This year, 2 Duke players are expected to be lottery picks.
Remind me: who was the last player Pitino got into the draft?
You are completely twisting my post. My point is that this is a "what have you done for me lately?" world and Pitino hasn't had a player drafted in 7 years. And he's up against programs like Duke for these recruits.I sense a move to “Scheyer produces pros, Pitino on the other hand, only a bunch of average Joes” thread shortly.
And you are completely ruining my witty sarcasm, so we are even.You are completely twisting my post. My point is that this is a "what have you done for me lately?" world and Pitino hasn't had a player drafted in 7 years. And he's up against programs like Duke for these recruits.
I wonder how many scheyer would have had at Iona. Hmmmm.You are completely twisting my post. My point is that this is a "what have you done for me lately?" world and Pitino hasn't had a player drafted in 7 years. And he's up against programs like Duke for these recruits.
Hate to take this thread off the rails, but feel it’s quiet enough to point how unaware this post is.Again: who was the last player Pitino got into the draft? Scheyer will have 4 in the last 2 years.
This isn't a knock on Pitino--I love him. But to dismiss Duke / Scheyer as being an inferior breeding ground to SJU/Pitino for NBA players is ludicrous
My brother in law went to Duke. Eff Duke.It's threads like this where you can tell someone's kids or siblings went to Duke. Same thing happens in Villanova threads.
Not at all. Scheyer is getting NBA ready guys. He has not shown a history of developing non-NBA guys into NBA guys.This is crazy talk. Scheyer had 2 draft picks last year, his first year as head coach. This year, 2 Duke players are expected to be lottery picks.
Remind me: who was the last player Pitino got into the draft?
By that theory, none of the blue blood coaches do because they are always getting NBA ready guys.Not at all. Scheyer is getting NBA ready guys. He has not shown a history of developing non-NBA guys into NBA guys.
I think that theory is fact.By that theory, none of the blue blood coaches do because they are always getting NBA ready guys.
Sorry, but that's ridiculous to me. K, Self, Williams, Few, Calipari...all great coaches and developers of talent. If we had coaches with half of there acumen the last 40 years we wouldn't have a program that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in a generationI think that theory is fact.
K was the best blue blood coach in recent memory X's and O's wise. But his major flaw -- stubbornness -- did cost him games that he could have won.
Oh yes, of course, because what other reason would one have to respect a program like Duke? It's not like they've accomplished anything.It's threads like this where you can tell someone's kids or siblings went to Duke.
Agree. The idea that guys like K, Self, Dean Smith, Wooden, Williams and whoever couldn’t coach and develop players imho is nonsense and to a large degree jealousy from fans of schools not so lucky to have those kind of coaches. Sure the recruiting budget and school rep is big but the school rep is earned over time.Sorry, but that's ridiculous to me. K, Self, Williams, Few, Calipari...all great coaches and developers of talent. If we had coaches with half of there acumen the last 40 years we wouldn't have a program that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in a generation
Agree. The idea that guys like K, Self, Dean Smith, Wooden, Williams and whoever couldn’t coach and develop players imho is nonsense and to a large degree jealousy from fans of schools not so lucky to have those kind of coaches. Sure the recruiting budget and school rep is big but the school rep is earned over time.
When we moved down here and my youngest was in middle school/ high school, the sports event that drew the most interest among his classmates was not the Super Bowl or World Series but the two UNC - Duke games and there is something cool about that imho.
Agree completely with your last two sentences but would add that a number of the blue blood coaches got their jobs at the blue blood schools due to coaching success at non blue blood schools. Scheyer and Davis of course don’t fall into that category and have proven little either way at this point.So now we're comparing some of the greats of all time to Sheyer? Just kidding. I think the blanket statement made about blue blood coaches is very inaccurate but you can't argue that much of their successes started with filling the rosters with better players than the rank and file coaches throughout the NCAA. There are surely a bunch of guys long forgotten by guys who only watch the final four and st johns who were great developers of mid level talent. I think the point is Sheyer doesn't have to do that because of the image created by K which like most of the coaches above was accelerated by systemic graft.
I just read the last page. Guessing the outcome is no good if we are off topic.Agree completely with your last two sentences but would add that a number of the blue blood coaches got their jobs at the blue blood schools due to coaching success at non blue blood schools. Scheyer and Davis of course don’t fall into that category and have proven little either way at this point.
You seem very defensive.Oh yes, of course, because what other reason would one have to respect a program like Duke? It's not like they've accomplished anything.