Techs and refs

I agree that Ponds got robbed on multiple occasions tonight. But, whether you like it or not, he does play a role. I'll be more specific.......

Not sure those who watch on TV would see this, but Ponds has several times this year protested a bad call by walking away from the ref with the ball and placing it on the court. Sounds like a small thing, but it's a really effective way to infuriate a referee.

Also, Trimble got dangerously close to causing himself a problem tonight. He purposely bumped into a ref while walking back. Again, it was lightly, but.......
 
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I’ve said it earlier. Ever since that Seton Hall game when those refs got embarrassed by that no call they have had it out for us.

They were embarrassed and now they hate us for it.
 
[quote="Section3" post=326391][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=326290]I hate arguing and complaining to referees, but how could you expect someone to play or coach in part of this and not? Ponds literally had 2 fantastic defensive plays stripped from him on anticipated foul cAlls that resulted in 4 free throws. Did we even shoot 4 free throws?[/quote]

Ponds was also blatantly fouled on at least 3 drives in full view of these 3 buffoons.

The mos5 egregious of all was the young ref. He, in particular, seemed to come in loaded for bear. And, I believe there were deliberate no calls.[/quote]

Yes, the young ref is Nathan Farrell. He, in particular, does not care for Mullin.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=326396][quote="Section3" post=326391][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=326290]I hate arguing and complaining to referees, but how could you expect someone to play or coach in part of this and not? Ponds literally had 2 fantastic defensive plays stripped from him on anticipated foul cAlls that resulted in 4 free throws. Did we even shoot 4 free throws?[/quote]

Ponds was also blatantly fouled on at least 3 drives in full view of these 3 buffoons.

The mos5 egregious of all was the young ref. He, in particular, seemed to come in loaded for bear. And, I believe there were deliberate no calls.[/quote]

He T'd up Mullin in the Depaul game. Clearly, there is no love lost between those two.

I wonder if an Earl Weaver- Ron Luciano situation will eventually develop. Things got so bad between those two back in the 70s, that the American League eventually let Luciano take his vacation time whenever he was scheduled to do an Orioles series.[/quote]

The young ref ran completely across the court to enforce the coaches box after warning Mullin. It's an idiotic call at a critical juncture of a game when the guy should have been watching play and not the coach. It is also a rule rarely enforced so it was definitely to punish mullin.

33-5 in free throws tells the story of the game. This had the potential to be a barn burner as we crept back in. Refs blew this one, and Ponds had every right to become unhinged after a couple of phantom calls on strips or blocks and no calls on his drives to the hoop.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=326404]I agree that Ponds got robbed on multiple occasions tonight. But, whether you like it or not, he does play a role. I'll be more specific.......

Not sure those who watch on TV would see this, but Ponds has several times this year protested a bad call by walking away from the ref with the ball and placing it on the court. Sounds like a small thing, but it's a really effective way to infuriate a referee.

Also, Trimble got dangerously close to causing himself a problem tonight. He purposely bumped into a ref while walking back. Again, it was lightly, but.......[/quote]

Ponds was lucky tonight after getting t'ed up when he hugged a player around the neck. If he was tossed there I wouldn't have been shocked
 
Mullin’s incessant complaining has rubbed off on the team and I can understand the refs frustration but your job is to call a game correctly and I don’t believe they did. The Farrell guy particularly looked unhinged.
 
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Mullin's game style has translated into our guys mouthing off and complaining. Enough already from the coach and players.
And yes the reffing was terrible.
 
There is an organized effort by the officials to make us pay. Xavier fouls everyone. It’s one thing to be down 7-2 calls to Nova, but Xavier? They fouled Ponds on every drive. They pushed offf with extended arms on 1/3 of their jumpers and even pushed Trimble on the face on one made three without a call.

We’ll be the first team to be happy with officials from a different conference in the tournament.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=326435]There is an organized effort by the officials to make us pay. Xavier fouls everyone. It’s one thing to be down 7-2 calls to Nova, but Xavier? They fouled Ponds on every drive. They pushed offf with extended arms on 1/3 of their jumpers and even pushed Trimble on the face on one made three without a call.

We’ll be the first team to be happy with officials from a different conference in the tournament.[/quote]

Stu Jackson, the #2 person in the Big East office (at least when it comes to men's basketball), usually sits on press row at our CA games. He was not there tonight. A wise move on his part, as he might not have been able to get out of the building alive (and since the Seton Hall game, our fans have given him an earful). The sad part about that last sentence is, I'm only half-joking.
 
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If you polled all the college sports writers and coaches on which team has been screwed the most by officials, St. John’s would get 90% of the votes.

The officialsand Stu were embarrassed every step of the way from the SH debacle from the blown call to the coverup.

We don’t make it easy to bury the hatchet either. Marv is the worst. He will drill a player with an obvious foul and then throw his hands up and complain. When you do that on obvious calls you lose all credibility.
 
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Referees in college basketball have become like referees in pro wrestling. They have become too much of the story, Between the crap with flagrant 1 and 2 fouls, and technicals seemingly every game or 2, it's gotten out of hand. Their job is to call the game fairly, but let the players decide the outcome. They hate being shown up, but blew enough calls to have deserved the constant attacks by Mullin. Simon doesn't touch Hankins on a dunk, and gets called. Hankins body bumps Ponds, and the refs look the other way. They missed 3 clean blocks/strips by Clark and Ponds, all resulting in points by Xavier. The team was over matched by too much size and too much of Marshall tonight, but got put away by the referees. The league office embarrassed themselves after the Seton Hall farce. They should have admitted the ref blew it, and left it at that. I'm waiting for one of the refs to slip a foreign object to our first round opponent in the Big East tournament.
 
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=326406][quote="Section3" post=326391][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=326290]I hate arguing and complaining to referees, but how could you expect someone to play or coach in part of this and not? Ponds literally had 2 fantastic defensive plays stripped from him on anticipated foul cAlls that resulted in 4 free throws. Did we even shoot 4 free throws?[/quote]

Ponds was also blatantly fouled on at least 3 drives in full view of these 3 buffoons.

The mos5 egregious of all was the young ref. He, in particular, seemed to come in loaded for bear. And, I believe there were deliberate no calls.[/quote]

Yes, the young ref is Nathan Farrell. He, in particular, does not care for Mullin.[/quote]

Apparently, he was called to the carpet earlier this week. This is from an article about the Fran McCaffery situation.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com...-ref-disgrace-after-loss-ohio-state/?utm_term[/URL]=.69a4594d1ce2

Tuesday’s incident also the second time McJunkins has been in the news this week. On Monday, the Atlantic 10 took unspecified disciplinary action against McJunkins and fellow referees Lamar Simpson and Nathan Farrell after they allowed the game clock to start too soon during a play at the end of the La Salle-St. Bonaventure game on Feb. 20. The Explorers lost, 62-60, after the clock started before they could inbound the ball with 3.1 seconds remaining and the officiating crew failed to notice and correct the mistake. La Salle Athletic Director Bill Bradshaw told the Philadelphia Inquirer that the Atlantic 10 apologized to him for the referees’ error.
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=326451]Referees in college basketball have become like referees in pro wrestling. They have become too much of the story, Between the crap with flagrant 1 and 2 fouls, and technicals seemingly every game or 2, it's gotten out of hand. Their job is to call the game fairly, but let the players decide the outcome. They hate being shown up, but blew enough calls to have deserved the constant attacks by Mullin. Simon doesn't touch Hankins on a dunk, and gets called. Hankins body bumps Ponds, and the refs look the other way. They missed 3 clean blocks/strips by Clark and Ponds, all resulting in points by Xavier. The team was over matched by too much size and too much of Marshall tonight, but got put away by the referees. The league office embarrassed themselves after the Seton Hall farce. They should have admitted the ref blew it, and left it at that. I'm waiting for one of the refs to slip a foreign object to our first round opponent in the Big East tournament.[/quote]

That foul call on Simon, has to be in the running for the worst call I've ever seen (putting aside game situations). He literally backed off, and gave Hankins the two points, just to avoid committing a foul. I mean, Stevie Wonder probably would have been able to tell that that was not a foul.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=326454][quote="Ray Morgan" post=326451]Referees in college basketball have become like referees in pro wrestling. They have become too much of the story, Between the crap with flagrant 1 and 2 fouls, and technicals seemingly every game or 2, it's gotten out of hand. Their job is to call the game fairly, but let the players decide the outcome. They hate being shown up, but blew enough calls to have deserved the constant attacks by Mullin. Simon doesn't touch Hankins on a dunk, and gets called. Hankins body bumps Ponds, and the refs look the other way. They missed 3 clean blocks/strips by Clark and Ponds, all resulting in points by Xavier. The team was over matched by too much size and too much of Marshall tonight, but got put away by the referees. The league office embarrassed themselves after the Seton Hall farce. They should have admitted the ref blew it, and left it at that. I'm waiting for one of the refs to slip a foreign object to our first round opponent in the Big East tournament.[/quote]

That foul call on Simon, has to be in the running for the worst call I've ever seen (putting aside game situations). He literally backed off, and gave Hankins the two points, just to avoid committing a foul. I mean, Stevie Wonder probably would have been able to tell that that was not a foul.[/quote]

People say our guys complain too much, but Simon, who never touched Hankins, didn't say a word. Our most vocal complainer is Ponds, but most of the time the replays show he was right, and the refs missed a foul on him or called a clean strip a foul.
 
As someone who admittedly probably gets on refs too much at times, I can't remember a season worse than this with this level of incompetence. It used to be a "conspiracy theory" tinfoil hat type thing to suggest that refs actually hate Mullin. It was proven tonight if not already prior. Mullin's son took to Twitter to call them "crooks" and a "disgrace". Also suggested Stu Jackson get involved. I agree.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=326456]As someone who admittedly probably gets on refs too much at times, I can't remember a season worse than this with this level of incompetence. It used to be a "conspiracy theory" tinfoil hat type thing to suggest that refs actually hate Mullin. It was proven tonight if not already prior. Mullin's son took to Twitter to call them "crooks" and a "disgrace". Also suggested Stu Jackson get involved. I agree.[/quote]

I think the incompetence has always been there. What's changed are the technological advancements in the way the game is covered, particularly on TV. HD screens, multiple replay angles, etc. all make it very easier to exploit the mistakes these zebras make, and have always made.

If the Providence game is any indication, then going to Stu Jackson might not be the wisest thing right now. Looked like he and Mullin won't be exchanging Christmas cards this year, based on that game.
 
[quote="Knight" post=326418]Mullin's game style has translated into our guys mouthing off and complaining. Enough already from the coach and players.
And yes the reffing was terrible.[/quote]

Agree 100 %.No doubt one of the worse refereed games all year, however I am getting sick of Mullin's sideline behavior.Wish he put this energy into coaching instead of complaining. Have to believe our A.D.Cragg can't be too happy with him.
 
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=326461]Could we be leading the Big East in technicals by both coach and players?[/quote]
Combined
 
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