St John's - Villanova

[LINY89]

Has anyone ever seen Greene take the ball to the hoop? I'm not talking about his east-west bullshit that he does on every play with the dribble. Him and branch are garbage. Harrison should bounce after this year. Sampson is not ready. Garrett has a lot of heart. But branch and Greene are not big east caliber players.

Please meet me on a court I am 21 never been on any team but grew up in the hood. I would show you who is garbage. If branch and Greene where on the court we would have not reached ot. You sir are a jackass that need to stop be such a hater on a team you are a fan of.

Where exactly is this 'hood' that you speak of?

The heights of eastern Long Island my man. Gordon Heights.

hahah...I live and grew up on Long Island...where the hell is that, man?

Coram.

 

[guinness77]

Just because Greene "got a BE scholarship" doesn't mean he can ball. He is a position-less player. Can't play the 2 and certainly can't play point. Keep watch him zig-zagging around the court mindlessly with his dribble and defending him with little class or honor.

C'mon man. This is a bit harsh. He was our second best player in the last 10 minutes of regulation tonight.

 

[STJClass_2013]

This team is pathetic. 8-7 almost guaranteed now. All you rose colored shades guys WAKE UP. This team sucks. I don't care how close you come...it's a big fat L against a lower level Nova team with half the talent we have. No way we even sniff the tourney or NIT, and get ready for 20 pt beatdowns at the hands of Cincy and G'Town. Call me negative, but I'm just dead realistic. Maybe next year.

What's with some of you clown posters who get off on calling out other posters who feel optimistic about their team?

Since it'll be next year, then I hope not to see you post on here 'til next year.

Give me ONE reason to be optimistic. I can't stand people who are optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I am from the realist crowd. Give me reasons to celebrate and believe me I'll be the first one doing so. Give me reasons to want to throw my remote as hard as a Garrett fastball, and I will not give some fake facade as if we are good. The cold hard truth is we are in the basement of the Big East. Not bottom tier, not middle, not upper middle, not top 3, THE BASEMENT. We will still win 1 or 2 games we aren't supposed to, but it will be too late anyway after Cincy and G'Town eat us for dessert. To lose back to back to the same team in OT with Harrison scoring what 36? It's just garbage. Garrett's inexcusable 3 pt foul was the sword to the chest moment for us. We win that game if he doesn't make such a stupid foul. This must look fantastic to Jordan and Lawrence sitting at home. I think it's time to raise the possibility that SJ is just a cursed, snake-bitten team for years now. Throw them in the same pile as the Islanders, Mets, and the Jets. Amazing how with so much talent we are so pathetic and can't ever shut the lid on a team no matter how bad they are.

Bring on the "you are so negative", "stfu", "get off the board", "then stop being a fan", etc. comments, but you know I am correct deep down. I want this team to be great just as bad as the rest of you, but the results do not pan out for us. I wish we could play our own defense so we could score at will like anyone else in the country.

No you aren't. This is a game. It takes your mind off the shitty world outside. I watch basketball cause I love this game. I love an underdog. I love the fact that they have room to grow and I hate that people like you can get it line say good game and shake hands at the end of a long fought battle of a game like this.

Just because you have watched losers all your life doesn't mean you need to act like one.

Have a little faith in your team. If Finn can't score they have a hard time winning. We saw it last year. Don't give them a 8-7 record before they play the games. That is stupid. But this is a game and one I love you don't like that I think this team can win. SHOVE IT

 

[marco]

we really crapped the bed in o.t. it looked like we were just happy to get there.

 

[guinness77]

Has anyone ever seen Greene take the ball to the hoop? I'm not talking about his east-west bullshit that he does on every play with the dribble. Him and branch are garbage. Harrison should bounce after this year. Sampson is not ready. Garrett has a lot of heart. But branch and Greene are not big east caliber players.

Please meet me on a court I am 21 never been on any team but grew up in the hood. I would show you who is garbage. If branch and Greene where on the court we would have not reached ot. You sir are a jackass that need to stop be such a hater on a team you are a fan of.

Where exactly is this 'hood' that you speak of?

The heights of eastern Long Island my man. Gordon Heights.

hahah...I live and grew up on Long Island...where the hell is that, man?

Coram.

hahah...I am just busting his nuts, but Coram? I grew up in more of a "hood" than that.

 

[true 3 blue]

You guys hail Greene has ballsy one minute, dismiss as crap the next.

You guys can't wait for Branch to arrive, now you want to drive him back to the airport.

hahahah...you can't make this stuff up.

Seriously. Dudes on here at times really come off as Yankee fans (and I'm a fan of the Yankees). Jesus Christ, it's laughable how extreme everything is in here.

Moving forward, not gonna be pretty when teams start doing what James Bell did to Harrison late in this game.

Face guarding him and basically killing whatever offense we did have.

30 minutes of Greene dribbling is not going to get the ball to Harrison......inbound should have been to D'Lo every play.

Agreed there. Maybe the coaching staff takes an extended look at the game film and makes serious adjustments to those out-of-timeout plays? Hopefully.

 

[Marillac]

Oh well. This season is over. They wont recover from this. Losing to a Nova team that will finish with a losing record indicates a really horrible season is ahead.

This team will struggle to match the 13 wins of last season. Which will effecively put Lavin on the hot seat by seasons end.
Whether next season is his last will depend on his ability to hire another high caliber Xs & Os specialist. If not, march 2014 is the last we will see of Lavin at St Johns.


This team will have a losing record this year. If Lavin is wise, he starts thinking hard about who he will target during offseason to replace Dunlap, or else his coaching career is over next year

Wow. I hate these boards sometimes. Holy sh*t.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Lavin needs a insider banger to succeed in the BE, not just athletic gazelles. I'm beginning to see why UCLA FANS

got frustrated with him as a Coach..He unquestionably gets very good talent but, so far, it's not enough.

And, fundamentals appear lacking on both, offense/defense. Major breakdowns at crunch time too.

OT tonite showed again a powerlessness to stem the tide of the opponent going on a game deciding run.Those breakdowns have cost us games against Ashville, Murray and Baylor. USF WAS JUST A TEAM DISGRACE!

Against Nova we snatched a loss on a game we should have won in regulation.

 

[queensbridge]

Giving up 98 points to this Villanova team is absolutely insane. We are a glorified AAU showcase team right now. Lavin has consistently shown his inability to make in-game adjustments like the high pick and roll with Arcidiacano tonight and the dribble penetration with Doolin from SF. So sick of always hearing excuses for this team and that starts with Lavin always feeling the need to mention how young we are in media appearances.

 

[MJDinkins]

This team is pathetic. 8-7 almost guaranteed now. All you rose colored shades guys WAKE UP. This team sucks. I don't care how close you come...it's a big fat L against a lower level Nova team with half the talent we have. No way we even sniff the tourney or NIT, and get ready for 20 pt beatdowns at the hands of Cincy and G'Town. Call me negative, but I'm just dead realistic. Maybe next year.

What's with some of you clown posters who get off on calling out other posters who feel optimistic about their team?

Since it'll be next year, then I hope not to see you post on here 'til next year.

Give me ONE reason to be optimistic. I can't stand people who are optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I am from the realist crowd. Give me reasons to celebrate and believe me I'll be the first one doing so. Give me reasons to want to throw my remote as hard as a Garrett fastball, and I will not give some fake facade as if we are good. The cold hard truth is we are in the basement of the Big East. Not bottom tier, not middle, not upper middle, not top 3, THE BASEMENT. We will still win 1 or 2 games we aren't supposed to, but it will be too late anyway after Cincy and G'Town eat us for dessert. To lose back to back to the same team in OT with Harrison scoring what 36? It's just garbage. Garrett's inexcusable 3 pt foul was the sword to the chest moment for us. We win that game if he doesn't make such a stupid foul. This must look fantastic to Jordan and Lawrence sitting at home. I think it's time to raise the possibility that SJ is just a cursed, snake-bitten team for years now. Throw them in the same pile as the Islanders, Mets, and the Jets. Amazing how with so much talent we are so pathetic and can't ever shut the lid on a team no matter how bad they are.

Bring on the "you are so negative", "stfu", "get off the board", "then stop being a fan", etc. comments, but you know I am correct deep down. I want this team to be great just as bad as the rest of you, but the results do not pan out for us. I wish we could play our own defense so we could score at will like anyone else in the country.

No you aren't. This is a game. It takes your mind off the shitty world outside. I watch basketball cause I love this game. I love an underdog. I love the fact that they have room to grow and I hate that people like you can get it line say good game and shake hands at the end of a long fought battle of a game like this.

Just because you have watched losers all your life doesn't mean you need to act like one.

Have a little faith in your team. If Finn can't score they have a hard time winning. We saw it last year. Don't give them a 8-7 record before they play the games. That is stupid. But this is a game and one I love you don't like that I think this team can win. SHOVE IT

He acts like he's entitled to having a good team. He throws a tantrum because none of his teams are giving him something to where he'll feel good.

 

[Pray4change]

I feel your pain and agony! Let it out man, let it out. I just kicked my dog. Friggin maddening.

It will be interesting to see if the team improves.

 

[ghostzapper]

I thought the refs did a bad job. We were pushed around all night and Villanova got away with murder, We were out shot from the line 42 to 20. That being said they made 81% of their free throws and we made only 60%. That killed us.

Obviously they were superior on the boards but the way the game was called made us more tentative and that helped widen their rebounding advantage. It was a game we could have won but did not. Hopefully somewhere along the way we can pull an upset to balance this loss out.

 

[STJClass_2013]

Has anyone ever seen Greene take the ball to the hoop? I'm not talking about his east-west bullshit that he does on every play with the dribble. Him and branch are garbage. Harrison should bounce after this year. Sampson is not ready. Garrett has a lot of heart. But branch and Greene are not big east caliber players.

Please meet me on a court I am 21 never been on any team but grew up in the hood. I would show you who is garbage. If branch and Greene where on the court we would have not reached ot. You sir are a jackass that need to stop be such a hater on a team you are a fan of.

So first I'm a jackass(called me that twice) and now I'm a clown that can't ball... I am thoroughly offended. I can tell that you "grew up in the hood" because instead of formulating a decent argument, you spew out defamatory remarks and have bad grammar. It's "were" not "where." Where denotes a position or placement.

Just because Greene "got a BE scholarship" doesn't mean he can ball. He is a position-less player. Can't play the 2 and certainly can't play point. Keep watching him zig-zagging around the court mindlessly with his dribble and defending him with little class or honor.

Where I grew up gave me a drive to get out. The fact that I have bad grammar proves nothing. You are a jackass and people like you suck the fun out of basketball

I can form argument but when I get pissed because so called fans start shitting on their team.

 

[boo haarvey]

This team is pathetic. 8-7 almost guaranteed now. All you rose colored shades guys WAKE UP. This team sucks. I don't care how close you come...it's a big fat L against a lower level Nova team with half the talent we have. No way we even sniff the tourney or NIT, and get ready for 20 pt beatdowns at the hands of Cincy and G'Town. Call me negative, but I'm just dead realistic. Maybe next year.

What's with some of you clown posters who get off on calling out other posters who feel optimistic about their team?

Since it'll be next year, then I hope not to see you post on here 'til next year.

Give me ONE reason to be optimistic. I can't stand people who are optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I am from the realist crowd. Give me reasons to celebrate and believe me I'll be the first one doing so. Give me reasons to want to throw my remote as hard as a Garrett fastball, and I will not give some fake facade as if we are good. The cold hard truth is we are in the basement of the Big East. Not bottom tier, not middle, not upper middle, not top 3, THE BASEMENT. We will still win 1 or 2 games we aren't supposed to, but it will be too late anyway after Cincy and G'Town eat us for dessert. To lose back to back to the same team in OT with Harrison scoring what 36? It's just garbage. Garrett's inexcusable 3 pt foul was the sword to the chest moment for us. We win that game if he doesn't make such a stupid foul. This must look fantastic to Jordan and Lawrence sitting at home. I think it's time to raise the possibility that SJ is just a cursed, snake-bitten team for years now. Throw them in the same pile as the Islanders, Mets, and the Jets. Amazing how with so much talent we are so pathetic and can't ever shut the lid on a team no matter how bad they are.

Bring on the "you are so negative", "stfu", "get off the board", "then stop being a fan", etc. comments, but you know I am correct deep down. I want this team to be great just as bad as the rest of you, but the results do not pan out for us. I wish we could play our own defense so we could score at will like anyone else in the country.

I can't nor will I make you optimistic. That has to come from within. No reason to call folks out because you're miserable. That is like trying to steal someone's glory. There really isn't anything to be optimisitic about at the moment (it's not looking too hot right now), but I'd rather be in the presence of an optimistic person versus a pessimistic person all day long.

If you feel we're not gonna be any good the remainder of the season, and feel you have to spew your cobra-like venom at every, single turn, then maybe you should move on from the board the remainder of the season.

Mjd -- I feel your pain. It's tough being in the minority on this board. Was not very long ago that our roles were reversed. Kudos to you for maintaining your optimism.

I'll give you something to be optimistic about. Ain't no way in hell Sampson is going pro after this year. Kid is nowhere near ready. That being said -- he has potential to be special

 

[bk8664]

Just because Greene "got a BE scholarship" doesn't mean he can ball. He is a position-less player. Can't play the 2 and certainly can't play point. Keep watch him zig-zagging around the court mindlessly with his dribble and defending him with little class or honor.

C'mon man. This is a bit harsh. He was our second best player in the last 10 minutes of regulation tonight.

I'm not an X's and O's guy, but isn't Greene's aimless dribbling east & west a function of the half court offense as a whole? Isn't the onus on the 5 players on the court, taken collectively together to create opportunities?

Don't get me wrong, it drives me nuts that Greene dribbles so much, but the half court offense seems to just never get going. I think the ball needs to get into Branch's hands more. His mental mistakes notwithstanding, at least Branch has the ability to the get to the rim. It gets Greene off the ball to be a spot up shooter - which he is pretty good at.

 

[SJUhoopNUT]

Giving up 98 points to this Villanova team is absolutely insane. We are a glorified AAU showcase team right now. Lavin has consistently shown his inability to make in-game adjustments like the high pick and roll with Arcidiacano tonight and the dribble penetration with Doolin from SF. So sick of always hearing excuses for this team and that starts with Lavin always feeling the need to mention how young we are in media appearances.

I'm beginning to agree. It's becoming a major concern. However, you do have to remember Lavin was in a ridiculous spot when he got here. He basically had to build a team from scratch. That's not easy. He's gotten nice talent. I just don't love his style of play and how he's using this talent. Also, he needs to figure out quickly that you need tougher kids, more physical players. I don't care what league you are in.

 

[LINY89]

This team is pathetic. 8-7 almost guaranteed now. All you rose colored shades guys WAKE UP. This team sucks. I don't care how close you come...it's a big fat L against a lower level Nova team with half the talent we have. No way we even sniff the tourney or NIT, and get ready for 20 pt beatdowns at the hands of Cincy and G'Town. Call me negative, but I'm just dead realistic. Maybe next year.

What's with some of you clown posters who get off on calling out other posters who feel optimistic about their team?

Since it'll be next year, then I hope not to see you post on here 'til next year.

Give me ONE reason to be optimistic. I can't stand people who are optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I am from the realist crowd. Give me reasons to celebrate and believe me I'll be the first one doing so. Give me reasons to want to throw my remote as hard as a Garrett fastball, and I will not give some fake facade as if we are good. The cold hard truth is we are in the basement of the Big East. Not bottom tier, not middle, not upper middle, not top 3, THE BASEMENT. We will still win 1 or 2 games we aren't supposed to, but it will be too late anyway after Cincy and G'Town eat us for dessert. To lose back to back to the same team in OT with Harrison scoring what 36? It's just garbage. Garrett's inexcusable 3 pt foul was the sword to the chest moment for us. We win that game if he doesn't make such a stupid foul. This must look fantastic to Jordan and Lawrence sitting at home. I think it's time to raise the possibility that SJ is just a cursed, snake-bitten team for years now. Throw them in the same pile as the Islanders, Mets, and the Jets. Amazing how with so much talent we are so pathetic and can't ever shut the lid on a team no matter how bad they are.

Bring on the "you are so negative", "stfu", "get off the board", "then stop being a fan", etc. comments, but you know I am correct deep down. I want this team to be great just as bad as the rest of you, but the results do not pan out for us. I wish we could play our own defense so we could score at will like anyone else in the country.

I can't nor will I make you optimistic. That has to come from within. No reason to call folks out because you're miserable. That is like trying to steal someone's glory. There really isn't anything to be optimisitic about at the moment (it's not looking too hot right now), but I'd rather be in the presence of an optimistic person versus a pessimistic person all day long.

If you feel we're not gonna be any good the remainder of the season, and feel you have to spew your cobra-like venom at every, single turn, then maybe you should move on from the board the remainder of the season.

So you want only biased viewpoints like Fox News? Sorry, let me take a step back here. SJ is a premier basketball squad with a plethora of NCAA appearances over the past decade! We were ranked like once in the past decade for a week or 2...that was cool. Hey, we were good in 1985 once! Hmm...we also have a slick looking coach! His wife is smoking. Oh yeah, and our coach wears air force 1's it's awesome! We are absolutely going places guys...top 10 ranking or bust! Elite 8 within reach! GO SJ!

Is that what you would rather? I don't need to be comforted...I am concerned with the truth whether it's something I'm happy about or not. Point blank, I do not feel confident against any team at any level in college with this SJ squad. Zero. You guys said Seton Hall would be bad? They are great. Nova? Supposed to be bad right? Wrong...they are very good record wise. UConn? I thought they were terrible this year...wrong. We are the worst team in the Big East besides MAYBE DePaul. Reckless optimism gets old fast. Let's call this team what it is: BAD.

 

[STJClass_2013]

Has anyone ever seen Greene take the ball to the hoop? I'm not talking about his east-west bullshit that he does on every play with the dribble. Him and branch are garbage. Harrison should bounce after this year. Sampson is not ready. Garrett has a lot of heart. But branch and Greene are not big east caliber players.

Please meet me on a court I am 21 never been on any team but grew up in the hood. I would show you who is garbage. If branch and Greene where on the court we would have not reached ot. You sir are a jackass that need to stop be such a hater on a team you are a fan of.

Where exactly is this 'hood' that you speak of?

The heights of eastern Long Island my man. Gordon Heights.

hahah...I live and grew up on Long Island...where the hell is that, man?

Coram.

hahah...I am just busting his nuts, but Coram? I grew up in more of a "hood" than that.

its not a good area. I know three people that got shot within two blocks of my house. there is two sides of coram north of 25 and south of 25. I live in the south side.

 

[sirvoo]

"I can form argument but when I get pissed because so called fans start shitting on their team"- Scott

I think this proves my point. Not going to waste any more of my time with a fool who can't put a sentence together and blindly defends players because he "grew up in the hood"

 

[SJUalum98]

Giving up 98 points to this Villanova team is absolutely insane. We are a glorified AAU showcase team right now. Lavin has consistently shown his inability to make in-game adjustments like the high pick and roll with Arcidiacano tonight and the dribble penetration with Doolin from SF. So sick of always hearing excuses for this team and that starts with Lavin always feeling the need to mention how young we are in media appearances.

Not too shabby for a marginal freshman chucker, eh?

Running Greene at PG, questionable substitutions/rotations, poor rebounding and complete lack of Xs & Os.

No such thing as morale victories when you need a Herculean effort from D'Angelo to even hang with a middle of the pack Nova team.

The team is poorly coached. It's plain as day.

Now that doesn't mean Lavin is a bad head coach. However, it's quite clear that he's not teaching these players how to play as a team. They severely lack fundamentals and situational awareness.

And guys need to really lay off the refs as if that's why we lost the game.