SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

IDRAFT post=427643 said:
Is the "free transfer" every year or something a player will only have available once in their career? If they are unlimited I suspect that the only reason to keep SJU season tickets is as a donation, or if you just enjoy watching basketball with no regard to the success of the teams involved. So if they are unlimited no need to read on.

But if it's the latter wouldn't it make sense for non-elite programs to target freshman and sophmore transfers and not spend so much recruiting time on high school players? This would give you a chance within a few years of actually having a roster of experienced players who have played in your system. Bringing in players who continuously play their junior and senior years somewhere else seems counterproductive to success. An SJU coach has not recruited a four year player since Amar. As of now without mentioning names there is a shot we could end that dubious streak next year. On the other hand bringing in one-year senior rentals for anything more than to plug a hole doesn't seem like a good formula to me either. Not just experience, but experience within a program has value.

Trying to figure out how SJU ever finds any success in this new system. Finding lower ranked players and coaching them up is not going to accomplish anything for SJU except to be a farm team for the teams that end up playing in the tournament. So when it comes to high school guys forget about potential - if they can't make an immediate impact don't bother with them. Lose the JUCO coaches phone numbers too. There are pages and pages (and pages and pages) of posts here from multiple posters how the real benefit of a JUCO comes in his second year due to the adjustment to D1. I agree! That would mean if a team has any interest in a JUCO they might as well let some less aware program handle the adjustment year. Like SJU just did with Cole and Moore. 

And sure, this is not only a SJU problem, but losing four underclassmen a year is a problem and I'm looking at this from a SJU perspective. The players SJU has lost played real minutes and made real accomplishments this year. The idea that they will not improve and would not have accomplished even more next year flies in the face of coaching players up being a recipe for success, as you just coached them up to help someone else.

The rules have changed. I'm not anti-player so I'm not against it. But the programs that adapt to the changes are going to be the winning programs and the ones that do not are going to be left behind until they realize the full ramifications and adjust to the new order of things.




 
The "free transfer" which everyone expects to be a rule has not in fact been enacted yet by the NCAA..  It was supposed to be a one time deal but who knows since the NCAA has dragged their feet (their standard mode of operation) on this.
 
No cigar, as expected;

Northeastern guard Tyson Walker told @Stadium he will make a decision this weekend between Maryland, Michigan St, Texas, Kansas, Vanderbilt and Miami. Absolutely love Walker’s game. Sophomore guard averaged 18.8 ppg last season.
Jeff Goodman 
 
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There has been so many names that it is hard to keep apart. I like the guards mentioned from Penn State, SMU, Indiana, and North Dakota. I think any of them (plus what we already have) could fill the void left by Cole on the wing and Dunn in the backcourt. Guess we have to be patient and understand there’s no way CMA and staff aren’t going to add some bigs and forwards to this group, even if names aren’t popping up. 
 
Our biggest issue right now is not who CMA and staff will bring in transfer wise , I’m sure they will bring in some quality kids and address our needs.  Our biggest issue is if Julian is leaving or not. Whether it be for the NBA, pro ball somewhere else or to play with his brother at Pitt if they don’t leave college. I know this is all fluid but the fact of the matter is that if Julian doesn’t come back it’s another rebuilding year for us next season and we are right back to the same old story. Rebuilding , a young team , no post season, next season will be the breakout year etc. I see this as our biggest issue now because without Julian next year we are a still a young bottom half of the Big East team. Unless the staff can bring in another player of Julian’s caliber but even then all these new players have to learn the system etc. it’s the same old story. 
 
I only sporadically check the status of kids in the portal. If we could limit this thread to only names of  players that we are targeting, and updates on only those players, I think it would be really helpful for our fan base. Also I believe that was the point in the  OP by StJohnnie75. The overall portal group is so large that it becomes a bit tough to keep up with. IMO that should be another thread all together. 
 
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Was hoping we’d be in the mix for Walker but we move on. Arbitello hinted at this anyway.  My next favorite guard would be Mitchell of SMU...
 
Guys who have heard from SJ for certain:

Darius McNeil - guard from SMU
Jamari Wheeler - guard from Penn State
Parker Fox - PF from D2 Northwestern

As we see indicated contact for others or update these, we can list or edit accordingly
 
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I said Mitchell prior, I meant McNeil..  I like Parker fox too.  He’s a Champagnie type but better athlete.  CAn do it all.
 
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MCNPA post=427665 said:
I said Mitchell prior, I meant McNeil..  I like Parker fox too.  He’s a Champagnie type but better athlete.  CAn do it all.
Unfortunately a ton of teams after him, but we’ll see.

How about the virtual visit process, what’s that looking like?“I have only had one zoom call with the full staff at Iona where they offered me a scholarship. I have also FaceTime’d with Bradley. Texas A&M zoom on Thursday, TCU zoom Wednesday, and Dayton for this week. Looking to set one up to New Mexico, Cal, Butler, Xavier, Creighton, and Vanderbilt soon. As well as some of the other schools too.”
https://stockrisers.com/s/326/the-portal-dii-standout-parker-fox-a-hot-name-in-portal
 
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Renamed thread to separate SJU possibilities from transfers in general.  Will try to move SJU-related posts from this thread to the other one.
 
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Renamed thread to separate SJU possibilities from transfers in general.  Will try to move SJU-related posts from the other thread to this one.
 
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lawmanfan post=427673 said:
Renamed thread to separate SJU possibilities from transfers in general.  Will try to move SJU-related posts from the other thread to this one.

LMF I realize that's a lot of work, and it's very much appreciated. Thank you. 
 
Don't give him too many kudos. We will never hear the end of it.
 
lawmanfan post=427673 said:
Renamed thread to separate SJU possibilities from transfers in general.  Will try to move SJU-related posts from the other thread to this one.

Thanks
And now I have 335 un-read messages in a thread that I know I previously read everything /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png/media/kunena/emoticons/whistling.png
 
One thing we should keep in mind is we MAY need to be more patient than usual before landing an impactful transfer. There's almost 900 names in the portal. A bunch of the tier 1 guys think they're going to blue bloods but there won't be nearly enough spots for some who would get those offers in a normal year. As transfer season rolls on and impact players realize Coach K and Calipari aren't calling I assume schools at St. John's level will began to see a trickle down effect as they become open to more options.

Edited to add: apologies for the extra work lawmanfan. Didn't realize I'd put this in the wrong thread.
 
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1.  I have disambiguated this thread (SJU transfers/targets) from what used to be the "Bookmark This Page" thread and is now the "Transfer Portal (in general) thread as best I can.

2.  This thread is players who have a connection to SJU - former players/targets, incoming players/targets, outgoing players.  I did not include "I wish we could get this guy" posts on this thread.

3.  The Transfer Portal (in general) thread is for any transfer-related discussion that does NOT directly involve SJU.

4.  I am pretty sure the whole thing was Monte's idea, I will be sending him the bill since TBH Paul doesn't pay me anything (I'm pretty sure he pays the other mods and is just screwing me, but that's another story).  But it was a good idea and needed to be done, so thanks Monte.

5.  OhioFan and Moose can screw right off.  Only kidding.  Well maybe.

Carry on.
 
Paultzman post=427654 said:
No cigar, as expected;

Northeastern guard Tyson Walker told @Stadium he will make a decision this weekend between Maryland, Michigan St, Texas, Kansas, Vanderbilt and Miami. Absolutely love Walker’s game. Sophomore guard averaged 18.8 ppg last season.
Jeff Goodman 
I wonder what Cuffe's feelings on this are?
 
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L J S A post=427688 said:
Paultzman post=427654 said:
No cigar, as expected;

Northeastern guard Tyson Walker told @Stadium he will make a decision this weekend between Maryland, Michigan St, Texas, Kansas, Vanderbilt and Miami. Absolutely love Walker’s game. Sophomore guard averaged 18.8 ppg last season.
Jeff Goodman 
I wonder what Cuffe's feeling on this are?


He already knew what it was.
 
 
Former SJU target I believe and Posh AAU teammate

PORTAL: Pittsburgh F Abdoul Karim Coulibaly (SO) has entered. 
Verbal Commits

Received Bradley offer already
 
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Paultzman post=427692 said:
Former SJU target and Posh AAU teammate who played little at Pitt

PORTAL: Pittsburgh F Abdoul Karim Coulibaly (SO) has entered. 
Verbal Commits


This is a huge blow for Pitt because Coulibaly was their future (according to Pitt boards)  I’m absolutely stunned he’s leaving.

 
 
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