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[dk423]

Kadary is the alpha we've been saying we need. As other have mentioned there is a bit of a fit question with his inability to shoot paired with RJ and Cliff but damn Kadary + Bensley + Cliff + some athleticism on the wing would be impossible to score against

I trust Rick in mixing the lineup combinations. We will always have a deep bench with him. It’ll be a very interesting question of who will close out games

 

[paultzman]

All lucky to have Dave and Paultz. Super connected, well informed, and all my dealing with them you can tell are just great guys.

Gracias my friend! You are the gold standard though.

 

[KG44]

Kadary is a tremendous talent. Big lead guard who can get to the rim and set his teammates up. He's got a role on any offense in the country. From what I gather he has an incredibly sour relationship with Holloway, on top of NIL issues, thus the divorce on the horizon.

It's another head scratcher for me because I think he has an interesting skill set but not sure how it jives with what Pitino wants, and stresses, specifically the outside shooting need. We'll see

He is an old school 3pt specialist. 81% from the FT line, 4.6 attempts per game.

 

[MJDinkins]

A strange fit, but I do feel like we need that "alpha" on next year's team and Kadary is that guy. Tough to rely on Sim to make the big leap and be that guy next season.

Wilcher is more of a combo guard IMO, whereas Richmond is like a true point forward who can adeptly man the point guard position.

 

[bucketshardy]

Kadary is the alpha we've been saying we need. As other have mentioned there is a bit of a fit question with his inability to shoot paired with RJ and Cliff but damn Kadary + Bensley + Cliff + some athleticism on the wing would be impossible to score against

With a Potential* lineup with Kadary and Cliff in it... a stretch 4 who can shoot would be a solid puzzle piece... and Rick knows just the guy...

Now I haven't seen his name floated yet, but with the coaching change at WVU, and what I think* (correct me if I am wrong- looking- i think there was a medical redshirt - and he has the Covid year...), 1 more yr of eligibility... our old friend Quinn Slazinski could slide nicely in that role...

I know, i know... "we can do better!".... but I would wouldn't hate this signing....

 

[IDRAFT]

I beg to differ. There's Obekpa; and then there is everyone else. Watching Obekpa was like watching a baseball game when Ricky Henderson got on first base. Excitement and anticipation followed.

When you look at the SJU statistics for the two the blocks per 40 minutes were the following. Owens averaged 4.2 per 40 for SJU, Obekpa 5.5. Higher for sure, yes, and I didn't dispute that - I would expect his raw block numbers to be higher. In fact, I knew they would be and didn't say they wouldn't be. I brought up goaltending.

The difference to me was one guy tried to block everything and didn't use his head which led to too many goaltending calls and the other guy did not. Every goaltend is two points for the other team and a real negative. But if goaltending is listed as a statistic in player profiles, I can't find it, so I won't fight the crowd on this, having no data to support what I have said. Sure felt to me like Owens was way more efficient at it, but memories can be faulty, which means I can't now be sure I'm correct.

 

[Boo Harvey]

He is an old school 3pt specialist. 81% from the FT line, 4.6 attempts per game.

Who is a three point specialist? Not Kadary

 

[redmen4life]

Kadary is a tremendous talent. Big lead guard who can get to the rim and set his teammates up. He's got a role on any offense in the country. From what I gather he has an incredibly sour relationship with Holloway, on top of NIL issues, thus the divorce on the horizon.

It's another head scratcher for me because I think he has an interesting skill set but not sure how it jives with what Pitino wants, and stresses, specifically the outside shooting need. We'll see

do we know why the relationship is sour?

RP is very, very demanding, and so if Kadary isn't open to being coached, then it could do more harm than good....

 

[KG44]

Who is a three point specialist? Not Kadary

I'm talking about the old-school 3pt play. A bucket and one...

 

[Boo Harvey]

do we know why the relationship is sour?

RP is very, very demanding, and so if Kadary isn't open to being coached, then it could do more harm than good....

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[NCJohnnie]

Who is a three point specialist? Not Kadary

KG was referencing the old "and one" type of three point play, hence mentioning his FT% as well.

 

[Boo Harvey]

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There was also some weirdness in the season when Kadary was injured and apparently didn’t want to play.

 

[billthetruth]

CRP played against him 3 times so he knows Richmond's game. Will probably get some feedback from Boeheim on him to weigh the positives and negatives to make a good decision.

 

[KG44]

KG was referencing the old "and one" type of three point play, hence mentioning his FT% as well.

It used to be valued. Adrian Dantley was a master at it. So was AI. Neither were great 3pt shooters.

 

[KG44]

CRP played against him 3 times so he knows Richmond's game. Will probably get some feedback from Boeheim on him to weigh the positives and negatives to make a good decision.

“He’s a tremendous college player,” Boeheim said. “I don’t know how many guys in college are better than him. Just a few maybe, if that. What he does, he’s as good as anybody.”

“If he can improve [his shot], he can play in the NBA, I think. He really understands the game and sees the game really well.”

Jim Boeheim says Seton Hall’s Kadary Richmond is an NBA player: ‘He sees the game really well’

Jim Boeheim says Seton Hall's Kadary Richmond is an NBA player

www.nj.com

 

[SJUDave]

There was also some weirdness in the season when Kadary was injured and apparently didn’t want to play.

heard this was also related possibly to NIL

 

[billthetruth]

heard this was also related possibly to NIL

That is not shocking. I would be shocked if Richmond is not gone from Seton Hall.

 

[Marillac2]

But here’s the thing with that. Towards the later part of the season, Rick was more concerned with his team scoring as many points as they could (he even stated so) then being concerned with defense. I’m not sure if his coaching philosophy actually changed or if he got tired of trying to get these kids play D. Either way as I’ve said in other threads , Rick always liked his PGs to be prolific scorers which Jenkins was.

Everyone wants their PG to be able to get a bucket, but I don’t think any coach wants his PG to be a prolific scorer.

If you look through his Louisville years the higher scoring PG years usually come on the worst teams. The highest PG scoring average was Taequan Dean at 17.1 ppg and the team was 6-10 in the Big East that year and Pitino’s worse Louisville team.

The following year when the PG ( a freshman Sosa) dropped to 11.1 ppg they went 12-4 with largely the same roster. Then they did better the following two years when the same PG, Sosa, averaged 7.6 and 7.1 (including a Final Four) and then were bad again when Sosa’s scoring average jumped up to 11 ppg as a senior.

Then there is Peyton Siva, who won a national championship and made the final four the year before, scoring 10.0 and 9.1, respectively.

Bensley Joseph seems to line up with that. Pitino won 27 games in a season when the leading scorer on the whole roster only averaged 11.1 pts….he won 30 when the leading scorer only average 12.6.

 

[billthetruth]

Everyone wants their PG to be able to get a bucket, but I don’t think any coach wants his PG to be a prolific scorer.

If you look through his Louisville years the higher scoring PG years usually come on the worst teams. The highest PG scoring average was Taequan Dean at 17.1 ppg and the team was 6-10 in the Big East that year and Pitino’s worse Louisville team.

The following year when the PG ( a freshman Sosa) dropped to 11.1 ppg they went 12-4 with largely the same roster. Then they did better the following two years when the same PG, Sosa, averaged 7.6 and 7.1 (including a Final Four) and then were bad again when Sosa’s scoring average jumped up to 11 ppg as a senior.

Then there is Peyton Siva, who won a national championship and made the final four the year before, scoring 10.0 and 9.1, respectively.

Bensley Joseph seems to line up with that. Pitino won 27 games in a season when the leading scorer on the whole roster only averaged 11.1 pts….he won 30 when the leading scorer only average 12.6.

Richmond took a roster that was not overly loaded in BE talent to a 13 win season in conference.
If Pitino wants him, I would take him in a NY minute. 6'6 PGs with his driving and passing skillset are very rare commodities

 

[lawmanfan]

Everyone wants their PG to be able to get a bucket, but I don’t think any coach wants his PG to be a prolific scorer.

If you look through his Louisville years the higher scoring PG years usually come on the worst teams. The highest PG scoring average was Taequan Dean at 17.1 ppg and the team was 6-10 in the Big East that year and Pitino’s worse Louisville team.

The following year when the PG ( a freshman Sosa) dropped to 11.1 ppg they went 12-4 with largely the same roster. Then they did better the following two years when the same PG, Sosa, averaged 7.6 and 7.1 (including a Final Four) and then were bad again when Sosa’s scoring average jumped up to 11 ppg as a senior.

Then there is Peyton Siva, who won a national championship and made the final four the year before, scoring 10.0 and 9.1, respectively.

Bensley Joseph seems to line up with that. Pitino won 27 games in a season when the leading scorer on the whole roster only averaged 11.1 pts….he won 30 when the leading scorer only average 12.6.

I see what you did there...