Season Ticket Holders Changes 2025-26

[dk423]

DK… the home court advantage is one of the Only things CA has going for it… that and beer sales now lol…

You may know 6 people that refuse to go to CA… but I know 5000+ that are will to suffer through it- and their angst makes them cheer harder lol

We don’t have many notable games there- but the KState / DePaul / Butler games had amazing “bandbox” energy

5k is nothing compared to 15k at MSG. I think we have very low standards for ourselves regarding home court advantage. Even if we sprinkle in (or even a 70/30 or 60/40 split), the energy at MSG is incomparable. It's the biggest basketball stage in the world and motivates our guys when we're loud. Carnesseca hasn't won us one game that we were supposed to lose. It's no coincidence that Villanova, Georgetown and X games all had beat writers saying the crowd gave them the boost.

The bandbox energy is overrated. Did you actually think there was any at the DePaul game? We blew them out and it got quiet after 10 minutes, lol.

That's not even saying how MSG gives us a huge platform and separates us from a typical program.

 

[GardenCity62]

The people who make a living providing the point spreads for college basketball allow four or five points advantage to SJU for games at CA and one or two points for games at MSG. If SJU keep drawing about 15000 at MSG that one or two figure will rise.
They consider CA one of the toughest places to play.at.

 

[bucketshardy]

5k is nothing compared to 15k at MSG. I think we have very low standards for ourselves regarding home court advantage. Even if we sprinkle in (or even a 70/30 or 60/40 split), the energy at MSG is incomparable. It's the biggest basketball stage in the world and motivates our guys when we're loud. Carnesseca hasn't won us one game that we were supposed to lose. It's no coincidence that Villanova, Georgetown and X games all had beat writers saying the crowd gave them the boost.

The bandbox energy is overrated. Did you actually think there was any at the DePaul game? We blew them out and it got quiet after 10 minutes, lol.

That's not even saying how MSG gives us a huge platform and separates us from a typical program.

There is no debate between MSG vs CA…

But to say CA doesn’t provide much of a “home court advantage” … is just a false statement. If we played games at Archbishop Molloy- it would still be a “home court advantage” with 1000 fans lol

Re: DePaul game… no- that blowout would have been “lower” energy anywhere… just naming the more “notable” games this year

 

[dk423]

There is no debate between MSG vs CA…

But to say CA doesn’t offer a “home court advantage” … is just a false statement. If we played games at Archbishop Molloy- it would still be a “home court advantage” with 1000 fans lol

Re: DePaul game… no- that blowout would have been “lower” energy anywhere… just naming the more “notable” games this year

If we're going to play semantics, sure, it's a home court advantage.

But if we're talking about priorities for money and comparing home court advantage of CA vs. other team's home courts, CA is money hole and doesn't offer us much compared to most high major programs with similar success

 

[bucketshardy]

If we're going to play semantics, sure, it's a home court advantage.

But if we're talking about priorities for money and comparing home court advantage of CA vs. other team's home courts, CA is money hole and doesn't offer us much compared to most high major programs with similar success

 

[Knight]

Maybe SJU can get creative with using UBS for many of the CA games. Double & triple headers. HS games, etc. Would still be cheaper than doing a proper renovation on CA.

 

[bucketshardy]

Maybe SJU can get creative with using UBS for many of the CA games. Double & triple headers. HS games, etc. Would still be cheaper than doing a proper renovation on CA.

Anything but UBS… was not a fan

 

[Knight]

Anything but UBS… was not a fan

What did you not like about UBS?

 

[SJU Center Court]

I’m as anti-CA as you can get on this board.

Where would you rank renovating CA in priority compared to NIL, basic facilities upgrade (not having a dedicated video room is wild), more games at MSG, and other team expenses (charter flights, more destination games, etc.)?

If we’re at a point where we can play 12 games at the Garden a year and five at Carnesseca, the arena stuff just may not be worth it.

Agree 100%.

At hiring, Rick said goal was to play ALL 10 BE games at MSG. Add 2 good OOC games and there's the 12.
If that's still the plan then spending any significant $$$ to renovate CA for games vs. Delaware, Bryant, Fordham etc. doesn't make sense.

 

[Silly Donovan]

This new “priority money” policy is no surprise at all given the current landscape of NIL etc. It has become a professional sport as with everything associated with it. I’m glad I had my season tickets for the many years I had them for. It was certainly a better time to enjoy college athletics.

 

[SJU Center Court]

5k is nothing compared to 15k at MSG. I think we have very low standards for ourselves regarding home court advantage. Even if we sprinkle in (or even a 70/30 or 60/40 split), the energy at MSG is incomparable. It's the biggest basketball stage in the world and motivates our guys when we're loud. Carnesseca hasn't won us one game that we were supposed to lose. It's no coincidence that Villanova, Georgetown and X games all had beat writers saying the crowd gave them the boost.

The bandbox energy is overrated. Did you actually think there was any 15t the DePaul game? We blew them out and it got quiet after 10 minutes, lol.

That's not even saying how MSG gives us a huge platform and separates us from a typical program.

Agree.......CA "home court advantage" has been way overrated based on our win % there which is mostly "cupcake" games.

MSG with 15k should be the goal.

 

[IDRAFT]

As much as I enjoy an inspired, "SJU needs a new Arena!" debate, I wanted to remake a point more directly related to the actual topic.

The idea that more money is needed, for me at least, is understood. The logic that a way to get some of that is through increased costs for season ticket holders is far from surprising, and as a current consumer does not bother me. That's life and all.

The part that only a few of us have brought up is, in my opinion, being glossed over. And I will not kill SJU over it yet since this is only a first communication. But until I see something that changes things it remains the current blind bidding process.

Maybe people cannot relate to how this seems to be rolling out so I will try an analogy those without season tickets can relate to.

You have a leased car and the lease is up. You call the dealer and say you want to keep the car and extend the lease. The dealer says "no, under no circumstances, no matter how much money you offer me, can you keep your car."

Now, that seems odd, (and is clearly B.S.) but you ask, "what cars can I lease?" The answer is, "I'm not going to tell you that, write me the biggest check you can afford, and I will lease you something. Hopefully you like it but if not, not my issue. And of course, I'm not telling you yet how much that lease will cost. This check is just to allow you the opportunity to lease an unspecified car for any price I decide to attach to that car."

Now before I write my last bit, I want to be crystal clear that if anyone wants to donate to SJU that is not a bad thing, or a dumb thing. And all of us, season ticket holders or not, can already do that. This sentence is only related to the current "deal" being presented to season ticket holders.

Only an idiot accepts that deal. A smart consumer says, "get back to me when you want to talk specifics."

 

[room112]

Agree.......CA "home court advantage" has been way overrated based on our win % there which is mostly "cupcake" games.

MSG with 15k should be the goal.

While I do agree with the premise of your post, I would love to see a game against UConn at CA. The arena is a bandbox and it would only be our fans. Not sure it would have any effect on them, but it's an environment they aren't used to playing in.

 

[Boo Harvey]

It's an arms race in NIL. They are building a 50 million practice facility they are upgrading the program.

Am money grab is when they are taking money from you for basically nothing in return. That ABSOLUTELY is not happening here

We’ll have to agree to disagree. The program has not enjoyed a full season of success, let alone sustained success. There is little if any demand on the second-hand market for seats most games. I read somebody speculate that maybe this policy will bring in another $500k. I’m skeptical that it would do that, but $500k won’t advance the needle for anything. Surely there’s a better way to bring in revenue than degrading the seats of season ticket holders or kicking them out altogether.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Dear Melissa

I’d like 2 new seats in the reseating. I’ll donate $1 more than whatever the guy who sent the school the nasty email this week. First name is Will last name is “ not have the same seats anymore “

Your friend

mjmaherjr

 

[Roamer]

Gents- money talks. Money moves things. We need money to be relevant and compete. Remember what we use to complain about?

 

[Boo Harvey]

Dear Melissa

I’d like 2 new seats in the reseating. I’ll donate $1 more than whatever the guy who sent the school the nasty email this week. First name is Will last name is “ not have the same seats anymore “

Your friend

mjmaherjr

 

[bucketshardy]

What did you not like about UBS?

For the 2 I saw there- DePaul and Seton Hall… the setting didnt scream College bball to me… hardly any seats behind the hoops… felt far away from the court where I did sit… and both crowds were very sparse… don’t think it’s the best location for our fans- we lose the Jersey/Manhattan/westchester crowd…

I think it should be MSG or CA… no Barclays no UBS

 

[Redenbacher]

As much as I enjoy an inspired, "SJU needs a new Arena!" debate, I wanted to remake a point more directly related to the actual topic.

The idea that more money is needed, for me at least, is understood. The logic that a way to get some of that is through increased costs for season ticket holders is far from surprising, and as a current consumer does not bother me. That's life and all.

The part that only a few of us have brought up is, in my opinion, being glossed over. And I will not kill SJU over it yet since this is only a first communication. But until I see something that changes things it remains the current blind bidding process.

Maybe people cannot relate to how this seems to be rolling out so I will try an analogy those without season tickets can relate to.

You have a leased car and the lease is up. You call the dealer and say you want to keep the car and extend the lease. The dealer says "no, under no circumstances, no matter how much money you offer me, can you keep your car."

Now, that seems odd, (and is clearly B.S.) but you ask, "what cars can I lease?" The answer is, "I'm not going to tell you that, write me the biggest check you can afford, and I will lease you something. Hopefully you like it but if not, not my issue. And of course, I'm not telling you yet how much that lease will cost. This check is just to allow you the opportunity to lease an unspecified car for any price I decide to attach to that car."

Now before I write my last bit, I want to be crystal clear that if anyone wants to donate to SJU that is not a bad thing, or a dumb thing. And all of us, season ticket holders or not, can already do that. This sentence is only related to the current "deal" being presented to season ticket holders.

Only an idiot accepts that deal. A smart consumer says, "get back to me when you want to talk specifics."

FWIW- here is what Gonzaga and Kansas did with their reseating for existing season ticket holders. Based on Kull's email, it sounds like SJU will be similar:

(1) You rack up "priority points" by making donations to the school, NIL contributions etc. You also get points for being an existing season ticket holder, the longer the better.

(2) Based on your "priority points", you are assigned a "seat selection window"- a specific timeframe in which you can select your new seats. People with the highest "priority points" get to select their seats first. By the time you get to your "seat selection window", your old seats may still be available, or maybe not.

(3) In the case of Gonzaga, you don't need to pay upfront for your season tickets until you see what's available during your "seat selection window". If you don't like what you see, you don't have to buy the tickets. I'm not sure about Kansas.

(4) Gonzaga says you cannot "reserve" your existing seats in advance - you have to go by the process above. Kansas allows it, but you have to make a huge contribution ($50k).

(4) This is for the existing season ticket holders. They get first crack at the whole process. Then when they are finished, other people jump in, I'm not sure exactly how they do that.

Not sure if SJU will follow the same approach. But I have a feeling they are not going to try to reinvent the wheel and will do something similar.

Fun times!

 

[NCJohnnie]

FWIW- here is what Gonzaga and Kansas did with their reseating for existing season ticket holders. Based on Kull's email, it sounds like SJU will be similar:

(1) You rack up "priority points" by making donations to the school, NIL contributions etc. You also get points for being an existing season ticket holder, the longer the better.

(2) Based on your "priority points", you are assigned a "seat selection window"- a specific timeframe in which you can select your new seats. People with the highest "priority points" get to select their seats first. By the time you get to your "seat selection window", your old seats may still be available, or maybe not.

(3) In the case of Gonzaga, you don't need to pay upfront for your season tickets until you see what's available during your "seat selection window". If you don't like what you see, you don't have to buy the tickets. I'm not sure about Kansas.

(4) Gonzaga says you cannot "reserve" your existing seats in advance - you have to go by the process above. Kansas allows it, but you have to make a huge contribution ($50k).

(4) This is for the existing season ticket holders. They get first crack at the whole process. Then when they are finished, other people jump in, I'm not sure exactly how they do that.

Not sure if SJU will follow the same approach. But I have a feeling they are not going to try to reinvent the wheel and will do something similar.

Fun times!

Can't compare us to Kansas or other big state schools but very fair to compare us to schools like Marquette & Gonzaga.